Misogyny is defined as: Hatred of, or hostility toward, women.
I am a reformed misogynist.
I hated women at one point in my life (Black Women to be exact). I see the same thing happening (here in my very own comments section too), so I figured I would share my story.
I used to be a very bitter Single Black Male (not the case anymore). A misogynist in the truest form. I was mad because I had groomed myself to be exactly what women had told me they wanted. I was nice, I was honest, I was ready to be a monogamist, I was educated, and I was a romantic. I listened to all my female friends, I took everything they complained about and made sure to stamp out all those things. I was the textbook, movie, novel perfect man. Only one problem
I was getting no play (read: pussy)!
I mean nothing. Barely any dates, seemed like every number I got into lead to a dead end, and my penis would look up me and frown because he hadn’t seen action in a time too long to even say in public. Personally, I think the build up of testosterone had a lot to do with my disgruntled mood, but I haven’t been able to find any scientific backing.
With this newfound anger that I was the perfect man and yet women didn’t want me, I got on my soapbox. I told anyone who would listen (even had a little blog about it).
Suddenly, women were stupid, they didn’t know what they want, they were illogical (well … that was true), and the biggest point that I repeatedly said … the one thing I would drive home to anyone … was that all women wanted thugs.
I called it the “Thug Theory” and promised to write a book about it. I did “investigative” work into why they loved “thugs”, crafted elaborate definitions of the “thug” and damn near had a doctorate ready thesis ready, filled with reasons why Black women were stupid.
So how did I make the metamorphosis into the well adjusted man you know and love now. Well … I started getting girls.
I started listening to my male friends more. I dropped a couple pounds. But the biggest thing … I got my swagger back.
Now, I look back at this old person and laugh. I can honestly admit that I was just angry and bitter. Being able to look back and realize the problem. Now I’m happy, and I’m single and loving it. I still want a girlfriend, but I get enough “play” that I don’t complain. Also, the swagger has come to stay, the game is solid, and … well … life is good.
Do you know an angry man? Are you that angry man?
If your a woman, and you know this angry man … give him a little head … you’ll be improving relations for everybody!
@SBM – First off, I'm so glad to hear you're not an angry/bitter single black male any longer. Life is too short for that bullcrap. Secondly, NOT ALL women want a "thug". I think after the age of 25, women who have matured the way life has meant for them to mature won't want a thug. I personally have never been attracted to the "thug theory"….EVER! I have enough "thug like" behaviors in myself that I don't need one in my mate! lol.
Sadly enough, I do know a couple of angry men. They've been badly scarred/hurt from a woman in their past…rather that be their mother, grandmother, ex-girlfriend, or so on – - so it becomes their excuse to be "angry". It's a curse/relationship complex in my honest opinion. Society and home related issues have messed up the minds of those who didn't come from a close net family that taught them better.
These men & women need to ask themselves: DO YOU HAVE THE RELATIONSHIP WITH YOURSELF IN TACT? I mean, how on earth can someone expect to make someone else happy if they can't make themselves happy first!? Can you sit at home and entertain yourself verses always having to have someone underneath you? Are you conforming to being someone that you're not? Why?
Those are the questions that these "angry men/women" should ask themselves before playing the blame game.
Well I'm glad to see that you're reformed…well partly…now we just gotta find the Wizard, so he can give the Tin Man a heart and some feelings…better yet, a metamucil woman, so you won't be so emotionally constipated..LOL!
video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6287091123202994051
It seems more than one person has had the same thoughts as you. But I think the angry black man thing is a little out dated…. I find now most men I know arent disgruntled about not having work, the white mans boot on his neck or finding a decent black woman. I know I live in jersey and we have ALOT of other racial and ethnic options, but it just takes one look at census to know you are loved can be loved. and to not sound like a hippie for a sec… negro dont you know your every race in Americas bedtime fantasy!!?
If you were writing a book, Id say you should have done more like myself and write with another person so your view dosent become polarized. Education, theory and understanding is the thing that seperates black people from niggas.. who just act on no rationale at all. getting a situation to work a little better isnt always the best thing. understanding why and the root cause behind it so it dosent happen again? yeah now thats whats up.
But seriously.. think about it. you became your problem. You couldnt be heavy poor and happy to get ass, but you drop weight and dont give a fuk and then you start getting play? Im glad Im not in my early 20's anymore sounds like a carbon copy of what I had to do in college.
one thing that wont change however are the amount of angry women out there. if someone cant be happy that you are happy you really dont need to associate with them. Id even say in your early 20's theres no need to sweat those with ABWS at all, since theres so much more you can be happy with.
My advise would be to get it all out (skeet skeet skeet) and under control so you can be productive and rational when you reach "manhood"/ settle down phase. but Seriously… in your early 20's you young brothas should have no problems with the random booty thang.
@HNIC – Your comment "one thing that wont change however are the amount of angry women out there. if someone cant be happy that you are happy you really dont need to associate with them. Id even say in your early 20’s theres no need to sweat those with ABWS at all, since theres so much more you can be happy with."
Ummm…that statement in itself is a angry man statement. LOL.
i have always loved women, never hated them at all
albeit a many may hate me lol
"You couldnt be heavy poor and happy to get ass, but you drop weight and dont give a fuk and then you start getting play?"
….ummm, where in this post did it he stopped caring, only that he dropped a few pounds and started feeling better about himself and so others followed suit.
"My advise would be to get it all out (skeet skeet skeet) and under control so you can be productive and rational when you reach “manhood”/ settle down phase."
…good advice…I hope you're giving the same exact guidance to that young boyscout troop of yours.
"Welcome back." I will say I grew out of "Thug" stage when I left high school. Yes, I would like a man to have a back-bone, he doesn't need to be slinging rocks or running from cops to show me he has one. *Sigh* I think you just need a hug. Here's one from me to you!
Loving women is actually a GOOD thing, last I checked anyway. Oh and a hot ,thin, silky haired, firm hard bodied educated, respectful, happy black woman looks so much better in on my satin sheets than a dude would.
Ms Dreckles.. if saying you want to be happy is angry we may need to page the guys at dictionary.com and library of congress to make changes
@auxpiedsde: Welcome.
Realize though I said I used to be like that. That was literally years ago. Don't worry … I no longer hate women (just still can't understand them).
@Hasani: You do realize this post was inspired and written for you. Literally, as time has passed I realize that you are the misogynist I used to be. You are really really angry at black women and do all the things and say all the stuff I used to (of course I did it on my own blog). I hope this post gives you a little insight and we can start the healing process
*group hug* (but gotta be one girl between me and Hasani … you know … don't need to be that close to no other dude)
I coul never imagine you bitter SBM…
I admit I do know more angry women..not just black..but I've worked around women all my life…I've never bought into that theory of blaming someone else for something they didn't do..or grouping all apples in one basket…
I'm an orange mooon……………….I love men..black men in particular and I've never faulted the next guy for the last guy…even when my nerd, honest, educated, nice, romantic NON THUG guy left me for an older women with 3 kids, blond hair and blue eyes after 14 years of a great marraige..LMAO…no i'm not bitter! I just didn't fully open up afterwards..that was 2 years ago…now I'm still as loving and kind and generous with my time…
HAHAHAHA!!!
@GeeGee: Only two years for a recovery … thats good. I'd probably be salty for years later. Prolly would have to swear off head for the rest of my life or something extreme like that … you know.
@Ms. Freckles: Funny thing … no one female had scarred me. This used to be the biggest issue my best female friend had with my anger at the time. She said no one did me wrong, and called my hatred unjust. In hindsight … I guess she was right.
SBM: I am older, more experienced and been through more wars than yourself. We are also two knights venturing on seperate quests.
Your quest is to slay as many dragons as you can, and to experience more of what the vast world has to offer.
My quest after being in many battles and knowing victory is to construct a newer greater and larger empire and know glory, service, and duty.
You couldnt have written the post for me, your life as an overweight early twenty something that was mad about not getting pussy, dosent correlate to me and my boxers build, 30, and sleeping with a bit TOO many people.
I have said it many times, I would not want to be a young 20 something middle class black man in this day and age. 80% of the sistas who date me wouldnt have given me the time of day at 21 but 31 they seem to care more about a man with morals, a good smile, a warm heart, and most importantly "NO KIDS"
Where as in my 20's I woulda needed the lex, the rims, the ice.. ugg I shutter thinking about what pains young non domesticated black men must go through.
but the measure of a man isnt when he comes up, the measure of a man is hot he does once he is knocked down and gets up again.
geegee fuk da dum shit… Im gonna go whoop his ass for you. I may not be that smart or that educated … but theres one thing HNIC knows how to do and thats throw a right cross.. and a hook and perhaps a few digs
dont matter if he or you are right or wrong… just lie to me and tell me he did you dirty and Ill take care of things old fashioned brute style.. just say da word!
I cant see a logical reason why a black man would leave a 14 year old marriage with no kids, to take on the burden of an older less viral woman with two kids of her own….. it just dosent compute to me.
Im just as down on men leaving women like they did back in the day as I am down on women leaving men now. too many cowards out here… but conversely theres too many people who get in a relationship and think its their right to cause hell and consternation in anothers life. Thats why I said everyone should watch the video
video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6287091123202994051
there comes a point where you have to realise being with someone is about BOTH of us being happy.
hmmmmmm….interesting responses….but again i digress.
@Hasani: Man … come on. The basics are still the same. You have a strong disdain for what appears to be the majority of black women and you love to tell the world about how all these women want are thugs, and you seem to have a major issue with the fact they aren't swooning over you.
You have mentioned yourself that the "action" with Black American women is pretty much non-existant … and thats cool. My resentment had to deal with the same demographic.
I tell you this now as a young man who has gained a bit of wisdom that has escaped some 10 years older than me … once you find the "key" to being successful with black women … you just won't care as much anymore. I promise you this!
You say a lot of things that are true, but you over exaggerate certain aspects and let that anger show through. If you preached a milder message I think we wouldn't disagree as often.
Your still my man though
"Your still my man though"
…I know I just spit in ur face..but hey I gave you a tissue to wipe it off. LMAO…good stuff.
sbm…The 2 years of recovery…wasn't without a variety of self medicating and self induced drugs/men/shopping/toys..etc..TEEHEE
hnci..we did have a family..he just woke up and didn't want the responsibility anymore..he told me that he needed to be free to do whatever he wanted..this is after I found out about the affair..by mistake..we still maintain our friendship because we have to…I was sad only because I thought I was living the life I always wanted..that we wanted..he wanted something different..and I wanted him to be happy so I let him go..without a fight…and never went back.
Interesting post. Actually glad you put it up. Not sure if it would help our fellow brother but we will see. Anyway it never occurred to me until recently that there are angry black men. I do hear men especially here in Chicago say how mean black women are. But they don't seem angry about it, they just move on to those that will accept them.
I find it interesting that you allowed how women treated you to make you angry. Instead of waiting, not changing who you were (cause you sounded like a great man…I would have taken you..lol) and finding a woman who was mature enough to appreciate the way you were. Also, keep in mind the type of women you felt like 'thugs' were these the type of women you really wanted? If you were looking to just get some ass then ok I get it, but if you were looking for something more serious then don't change.
However, you seem to have found a happy medium I am assuming with being nice but also having your 'swagger' which is working for you. I don't know any angry black men only angry black women. I really don't see the point of anyone being angry. To characterize an entire group of people based on probably less than 1% (just guessing at this %) interaction, is a little ridiculous. How can a person say they dislike all black women/ men based on a few dates they have been on? It only means you haven't ran across the right one yet. But never change who you are. In that case I should hate all black men, because I was never the girl that they boys wanted to date. I was the girl that was always like the little sister.
I really wish people would just look at each other as individuals and I think things would flow alot smoother.
Did I mention I am glad you changed…
"Instead of waiting, not changing who you were (cause you sounded like a great man…I would have taken you..lol) and finding a woman who was mature enough to appreciate the way you were."
Although he doesn't outline this in the post I'm reading it as he wasn't FULLY happy with himself and it wasn't until he was that he found his swagger. I have been the victim of a rut where I couldn't find my swagger(read:center) to save my life. I was having the worst time with men and I was blaming the world for my unhappiness since there was obviously nothing wrong with me…right??? Wrong. It wasn't until I changed a few things about me that my center returned.
When I walk now I do it with an air of confidence…nothing is different on the outside, I haven't lost any weight, my hair isn't any different and I rock the same clothes…but my surety comes from inside and men can smell it a mile away and want so badly to be apart of it.
Our dear brother here who this post was dedicated to seems to love his body, his character and his personality, but he has a few issues with his job, education level and intellectual abilities…2 of those things he can change…and it won't be until he changes something about himself that he sees as a crutch that he will fully be able to ALLOW himself to be loved.
….but that's just my interpretation of the situation…ya dig Sani baby.
*hi-five* to Comeback…the response couldn't have been more insightful, although we know it will be met with denial and opposition leading to said motto:
If you don't like the statistics…blah, blah, blah…
…all the while never accepting the reality and truth as to what was outlined in your comment.
KUDOS to SBM & Comeback!
@Teacia – At this point I think Hasani just likes to read his on babble. Even he can't truly disagree with the facts that SBM and Comeback just laid on him. Knowledge is Power!
*own
The key to getting your swagger back is to know WHO you are and WHOSE you are. If you believe in God, then know that you are a child of the Most High.
I lost mine after my relationship with my ex-fiance ended. I had gained some weight and my esteem was shot. It took a minute of self reflection, prayer and just generally letting some wounds heal but I'm back! I'm still not skinny (though I doubt I'll ever be that) but I am losing weight for my health. I flipped the hair game, got some new gear in the size I am NOW and kept it moving. When you look good, you feel good.
It's human to feel bitter, angry or hurt. It's criminal when you let those emotions hold you bondage. Woosah!!!
@Ms. D: The thing about the "thug theory" that used to kill me is that it was based on the college women I was gunning for at the time. No hood rats, but a bunch of educated (or on their way) black women. But in hindsight, they were young. Even as I look back at the people I based it on, they grew up. They were on the tail end of that "phase".
I'm still a nice guy and truly feel I'm gonna meet Mrs. SBM sometime and she is gonna get the superstar treatment. But until then, that nice guy is gonna stay in the corner and continue to get his ass whooped if he steps outside of the line I drew in the ground for him.
@Teacia: Lol … I think you might be looking a little too much into it. I was mad, then I found a girl who made me happy and was feeling me. As a result, the new found confidence helped me to keep her happy, and then when that ended … keep myself "occupied". As a result of being occupied and happy … I wasn't angry anymore.
SBM I don't think you're reading enough into it…but then again that's just me. You know i'm always on the philosophical kick…either way I'm happy you're happy.
@SBM: Glad to hear, and Mrs. SBM will come in due time.
@Comeback: I have to agree. It even reminds me of one thing I forgot to mention.
At this point, I pretty much swore off black women. I flirted with the idea of going white, but finally settled on Indian women. I mean, I even went as far as to start learning about the different groups and got a whole bunch of Indian friends too.
But, if my good friend is determined to settle into a happy family with a black woman and turn into the positive I know he will become, he is going to have to go on the journey and come out the other end stronger and with a newfound swagger.
"I know he will become, he is going to have to go on the journey and come out the other end stronger and with a newfound swagger."
…or some chicken tika masala…either way do you. No one is going to ever be EVERYONE's cup of tea.
@SBM: Aren't most Indians still practicing arranged marriages?
p.s. stop the press..who is that?? in the photo??
@GeeGee: No … that is not me. Couldn't find a picture of an angy black man (I know … crazy) so I picked that randomness that I found.
@Neonnea: Not the ones that I know. Most of them seem to be on their own search for love.
@Comeback: Butter Chicken was one of the reason's Indian one that race shootout. Might have to go out tonight and find some. Any recommendations (my last "indian spot" was in Beltsville and went out of business)?
My attraction for the "thugged out" black boy ended a while ago. It never really was my full cup of tea, but I did go through the phase. I even talked to my Psychology teacher(back in high school) about my theory on why some girls are attracted to bad boys/thugs. However, from my junior year in high school, my true attraction are for guys who are actually doing something productive, intelligent, goal oriented, more or less like Mr. Dwayne Wayne from a different world.
However this dislike(I don't want to say hate) towards the black woman, is nothing new to me. See, quiet a few of the men in my family would prefer not to date a black woman. Does it bother me, NO. To each his own, however, like Ms. Devereaux said, someone should not dismiss an entire group because of the small sample size.
My brother told me " I am not like the average black woman"..which bothered me because, who is to say what the average black woman is like. He has, nor has anyone dated every black woman to come up with a criteria. I feel the same applies to women when is come to the black man.
Although I would prefer a black man, I also take each individual for who they are. An individual.
I say be confident and know who you are. Don't be afraid to be a individual. And most importantly don't change who you are for other people. That's the mistake that I see in your past. Now you're much happier just being you…and the women follow. That's how ya get play..
Hasani
I honestly believe that you are trying to find (illogical) reasons to justify wanting to date outside your race. And while I applaud your “loyalty”, you don’t need to explain or look for statistical measurements to give you a reason to date whomever you would like. I say DO IT.
Human nature suggests that whatever you are looking for you will find. And you have done just that with your statistics. I’ve never seen you quote anything from any reputable psychological and or socialogical journals. As we did in college, I would like for you to start citing some of your information. In conlcusion you base MOST if not ALL of your information on VERY NARROW causation, (YOUR PERCEPTION OF) black women’s behavoir. You can’t do this from a scientific or mathmatical perspective. And you lack very little SUBJECTIVE experience with black women in relationships. And all your conclusions point back to why white women and other ethnicities are more “datable”.
so to me the only logical thing to do is …date, court marry non-black women. I honestly don’t fault a man for making such decision. Its what you like. I’d only ask to stop bashing black women to make you feel better about the choice.
re: anger. I feel as though its all really destructive. And it doesn’t serve. Anger begets more of the same. And attracts negative people while also diminishing quality of life. The opposite is also true.
I can just feel the love up in here.
SBM your reaching… like FAR. the ballgame for me is lightyears from the hell you had to suffer.
I just hate destructive people period.
Trust me if this was 1994 I would be telling you about your ass too. We didnt call women who complained about the mass number of chaotic men "angry" in the 80's. We felt for them… so why the inverse now?
and I dont hate black women….. give me a reason why I would? I posted that I was steering away from LOOKING for white women.. and first thing one of the posters on this board said was "HA… so now you decide to come crawling back to us" I mean WTF is the air of superiority about? and I wont name names who said it. but if I was going to be ANGRY… wouldnt I be angry at white women for how my dates with them have turned out? but im not.
I seem to be getting along well (a little too well) with the non american born black women… I have been on dates with…
so obviously its not a color of skin thing.
I see no reason why i would be angry or you would think I am "angry"
but what I am is blunt.
When I came on this blog it was "all the good black men are taken and all the rest are sorry ass nigguz and yall cant commit!!" as the mentality.
I dispelled this by saying more black women are leaving relationships now and black men are very loveable and compassionate.
The response was "STFU you dumb mu fuka, you dont know what you talkin about"
Since we couldnt have a rational disgussion, I decided to post statistics… when faced with fact everyone blows the fuck up and gets all kinds of bent out of shape and makes me out to be some kinda angry villan, its comical. If I didnt care I wouldnt write and especially wouldnt write the truth. we identify and fix problems.. not cover them up with duct tape or sweep them under the rug.
The middle class black man is not the cause of the divide. Notice the more I try and be rational the more insults get heaped up? When you call someone fool, moron, village idiot, and resort to personal attacks… THATS angry. when you point out whats wrong and what needs to be fixed with a certain class and demographic… thats a warcry for change.
The middle class black man is not the reason why the marriage rate is going down and only 30% of black women are married. how long was the finger pointed at the black man as the reason, but little by little more and more of the sistas on this board startred to say "ya know.. I kinda have a commitment problem"
The black man is still getting married with or without those infected by ABWS. look at the stats, we are #2,3 and 4 most popular interracial couple… god we so loveable
so if I am angry by pointing out that single black fathers need to stay the course and not cut corners, single black mothers need to stay out of the club and keep you ass home, angry black women need to seek help and not infect others with your negativity, lazy thugs need to get a job and stop ruining the way people perceive me, I can go on and on… but I guess telling the rejects to straighted up makes me "angry" or "just like bill cosby"
geegee: wait.. he said he didnt want the burden of having a wife and a house so he left to take on an OLDER woman with kids he cant dicipline ? that dosent make logical sense. either there are pieces missing or the negro is crazy… but if hes crazy I can still whoop his ass for you. they say we supposed to act sophisticated… but trust me… seein him get lumped up would make you feel much much better.
bad men are in the same boat to me as bad women.
…and there goes the love.
By the way since we're stating facts, the "middle class" consists of homes earning $35,000 individually or a combined
$75,000 and are considered lower middle class; and $100,000 annually up to $250,000 which is considered the upper middle class.
So it would nice for "people", no one is specific(since we speak in bullshit ass general terms up in here to) to stop quoting middle class statistics and pleading for middle class changes when they know nothing of said class. I don't know if anyone fits into this category, but if you do then I'm talking to YOU!
….just a thought…and SBM I ain't starting nothing, so please don't take it there…I'm only stating the facts, facts that need to be interjected, facts that I have kept quiet about from day one since this middle class thing is such a HUGE deal. What about black love? Why does class need to have any weight on love, relationships and togetherness? Why can't we all just co-exist in spite of class. If I hear one more fucking thing, quote or statistic about the damn dissipating middle class(as if it's any damn different than any other class) I think I'm going to scream!!
…ain't shit special about the damn middle class…it consists of a bunch of overspending, overeager individuals who are now in over their heads financially just like every other class.
Maybe "we"(speaking in general freaking terms again) need to stop looking at a specific social class someone falls in or hails from, and just seek out random acts of love and kindness in ALL individuals.
SBM I know you're considered a middle class man, but the fact that you let the middle class babble go on as long as it has is irritating. It alienates those who may not fall in that class and may make them feel like they have nothing to contribute since their class isn't considered important in these talks about love and relationships….just a thought…you know I have a thing about sticking up for the little people. I just hate social class definitions and separations…the thinking is archaic and antiquated.
What strikes me as ironic though is that the person who complains about not making enough money to keep a woman interested is the same person who is obsessed with the success of middle class dating…hmmmm, ironic indeed…maybe there's something deeper there…but i ain't digging.
**sidenote** sorry guys, i guess i need a nap.
Hasani
we're all educated people here. I'd like to challenge you to actually defending your arguement BASED on data…and THEN work on making your conclusive arguments BASED ON THE DATA.
Marital/Divorce statistics are found and organized by characteristic including race/age/income on census and cdc sites. I have ALOT of work to do. But I quickly pulled 2005 and found roughly 66% black women and men "ever married" between the ages of 35-39. And it appears every 10 years or so the rate goes up on average about 8-12%.
Now if I was bored as hell, I would look at how this data was measured, the size of the sample and comparatively bumped this against non-whites and whites. I would also take into consideration the lack of representation that blacks have had in census collection etc. etc.
Now this is only a snapshot. I dont have the TIME or the interest to look at the other characteristics. I only brought this data into the fold BECAUSE YOU REFUSE. I don't dispute that there is a disparity particularly when it comes to age and race, but the data suggests the disparity becomes less significant as black people age say 8-10 years.
This is why you are called a fool. You can't just make a blanket statment and expect everybody to co-sign. There are other factors with your stats aside from the black woman being unworthy.
Now, I will be back on tomorrow morning. And when I return, lets have an intelligent discussion based on numbers and not what you heard in the "hood" or based on your LACK OF RELATIONSHIP EXPERIENCE WITH BLACK WOMEN.
i appreciate your love. But I like numbers and FACTS. ok !!!!!
damn, sorry for the looooooong rant.
Oh and Don Imus really needs to be muzzled. He just can't help being racist…blatant I tell ya.
Good night all
would also take into consideration the lack of representation that blacks have had in census collection etc. etc."
WHO takes census is irrelivant. you really need to stop playing the omg the white man is out to get us card. But I will humor you for a sec since your so god damn fine as hell…
I live in jersey. and just so ya happened to know.. I was on the census team along with my mother. The neighborhood I lived in at the time was predominantly indian/pakistani with obviously a fair number of whites and pocketsfull of blacks. The town in genral is fair amount of blacks with majority whites however. My census team was somehow majority black, the team lead was black. Out of 30 people we had 3 white females and 1 white male. Not many white men I guess were not working and wanted to sign up for census? I dont know why or how.. but what I do know is census takers are from the local US populous. thus drilling holes in the "oh no aliens and the man" are making up data.. theory.
now.. someone would call me a fool because they are rude and disrespectful…
you can crunch numbers just as well as I can… infact I would say comeback could crunch the numbers BETTER because of pedigree… aint that right?
I dont make all encompasing statements. I dont say OMFG EVERY SINGLE BLACK WOMAN IS UNMARRIED HOLY HANNAH THE SKY IS FALLING. but here.. check this out.. saying 30% of black women are married is NOT saying "ALL" black women are unmarried… ITS THIRTY PERCENT THATS THE WAY MATH WORKS!!! (why am I speaking in caps?)
ya Ill grab some numbers if you wanna hammer this out. but if your gonna just act childish and call me names and demean me and yourself.. then why bother? we should let other people know we arent the niggers on tv they portray us to be …and we CAN actually have statistical study and theoretical interpretation….speaking of which…
I will be back on tomorrow morning. And when I return, lets have an intelligent discussion based on numbers and not what you heard in the “hood” or based on your LACK OF RELATIONSHIP EXPERIENCE WITH BLACK WOMEN.
I have 6 years with the same black woman…. you have what… a year dating the same man and 1 year with him elsewhere? so…. yeah… a year. Playing the "OMG YOU KNOW NOTHING BECAUSE YOU HAD A WHITE WOMAN!!!! card again are we? that reminds me of the episode of the boondocks when the little boy did the same thing. lawyer had a perfect case on Rkelly and all of the sudden nobody wanted to her him because he had a white wife…. LOL how quaint and small minded that cartoon was… good thing we dont have people to repeat those actions in real life.
I mean… who would ever do something so moronic and shallow as to judge another human based on who they have living under their roof and by the color of their skin… hey wait. I think theres a term for people who do stuff like that
bigot comes to mind
random stuff I must have made up because I have some hidden adjenda
black women make up 6% of the population in america. 71% of them are unmarried (women boosters for democrats 08 .ref)
Unmarried black women are more likely to be in the 18-49 age range (66% vs 57%) while a quater of unmarried women are over 65, only 15% of black women are elderly age
(yes yo grandmamma knew how to stay married better than the other races, so you cant blame it on them or "the struggle" )
29% of white children were born to unmarried parents in 2000, 69% of their black peers were born to unmarried parents.
thats not a lets stop having sex thing… thats a lets use condoms thing. thats a lets stop havin sex with the WRONG people thing.
My hater side on this topic says stop trying to trap men into being with you by getting prego. but thats another can o worms
heres a good one
for you comeback.. since you said if I ever found this data you would give me that date between us that I am longing for… can I pick you up next weekend at 8:30?? a woman is as good as her word
Unmarried male to female ratio broken down by age and "color"
Non-Hispanic White
Male Female
0-17 51.4 48.6
18-20 52.1 47.9
21-24 54.1 45.9
25-28 55.4 44.6
29-32 56.1 43.9
33-36 55.0 45.0
Us black folk (not including latinos)
Male Female
0-17 50.9 49.1
18-20 51.5 48.5
21-24 50.1 49.9
25-28 48.8 51.2
29-32 46.7 53.3
33-36 11.7 77.6
the quickly replacing us on the totem pole Asian American!
Male Female
0-17 50.8 49.2
18-20 50.8 49.2 (odd eh?)
21-24 54.2 45.8
25-28 56.7 43.3
29-32 58.6 41.4
33-36 56.1 48.8
our good friends LOS LATINOS!!
Male Female
0-17 51.0 49.0
18-20 55.0 45.0
21-24 59.0 41.0
25-28 61.2 38.8
29-32 60.6 39.4
33-36 56.2 43.8
now obviously I was messing with you to see if you are reading the black male/female in mid 30's its actually 44.2 vs 55.8
you can throw sticks at numbers all day obviously. my only problem with census is that it lumps people a little much.
Muslim based pakistani culture is a very far cry from catholic based society of the Philippines yet we both consitered "asian" wtf!?
also… as I state many times They lump "Africans" and "black americans" together…. eventhough africans have an entirely seperate family, education and moral structure from american negro… yet we are both considered… BLACK. id love to see Marriage rates with Family oriented African women taken out of the equation.
Hasani you totally lost me. First of all, I am most assured that Rutgers is and was never a cosmatology school…so why do you hate citing your references. A cite should include a SOURCE: author, publication and date.
Where did this data come from????? You mention something about 2000???? Why are you using 8 year old data when there is census and cdc data thats at least 3-4 years old. Hell cathloics have data more current than this.
I'm sorry I didn't even look at your ratios because when you don't give me data i can reference, I totally ignore everything else. Hasani none of on here are dumb. If you're gonna pull statistics, they should appear they didn't come from your butt.
try again. please provide a) where the data came from (a link would suffice) Thanks
holy hannah…. now your going to diss Rutgers? what near ivy league school did you attend? I mean since you have a pedigree and all. cant put my shit out there without puttin your own darlin. I guess your going to go after my beloved Princeton Tigers next since we havent won a championship in a few years?
If you want MLA format, become an adjunct at your local CC…. if you want these stats quicker…. get your own bloomberg terminal….write your PR rep at census…. or pour through the numbers on the site…. read through blogs of major ivy league colleges, they are always doin indipendant research. but check census my silky haired goddess.
I knoow you didnt look at the data… why would you? it was posted by a man and a "stupid" and "itiot (ic)" man at that.
because… the numbers are no where near accurate and I must have an agenda. come on now.. are we so under the black opression umbrella this morning that we are actually believing someone is out to get us? thats paranoia and Bigotry all in 18 hour span.
Shaq
WTF are you doing homes? You grew up just up the street from Rodman and I, but you act like you was raised in south central. That Kobe thing is not only dead… but he has moved on and done without you. Your getting a divorce because your wife thought it was cool to screw her personal trainer and because you selected a mate with a phat ass and a nice smile insted of selecting a woman with a good set of morals and wasnt going to stash 9 million of your money away for her escape. You make your own decisions, dont be a lazy black man and blame others.
and this stuff with Kobe… come on. can we please leave the little italian raised kid alone? Do you really expect him to be a "g" about your whole brotherhood thing when he wasnt even raised here?what do you expect him to respond? not like he even listens to rap much less can freestyle…. he may sing about it in italian over breakbeats or something though.
and this going back and forth is making us all look rather silly. you can give a brotha from jersey money, power, fame, and then at damn near 40 years old… stil gotta act like a n!gg@?! DIO we ever grow up and not act like the stereotypes?
And then we wonder why the others in our society wont take us seriously, we have moe and larry here making us look like… well… moe and larry.
I HATE flossing ass negroes…maybe it has something to do with the fact that I deal with real ass negroes in the South but dayum I can't stand them flossing ones.
Again speaking in general terms at no one in particular…if the shoe fits…
Attending a damn near ivy league means and says NOTHING if you didn't finish. Dating someone in high school when you were 13 freaking years old does not prepare you for dating someone at 30…just a realistic view on that. And I'm sorry but I'm much different today at 28 than I was even at 20…so there's a bit of a gap in your credibility.
And let's get another thing straight…we aren't sitting around here trying to trap your broke asses, you're the one feeding us with the have my baby bullshit b/c you're aware of our upward mobility. For example:
In each of the three years before the turn of the century from 1998 through 2000 there was a one percentage point decline in the overall graduation rate of black men. But for the past five years the graduation rate for black men has improved by one percentage point and now stands at 36 percent. Long-term, over the past 16 years, black men have improved their graduation rate from 28 percent to 36 percent.
This year the college graduation rate for black women rose by one percentage point to 47 percent. And over the past 16 years the graduation rates for black women have shown strong and steady gains. Turning in a powerful performance over the past 16 years, black women have improved their college completion rate from 34 percent in 1990 to 47 percent in 2006. So for black women, we appear to be very close to the point where one half of all students who enter a particular college will go on to earn their degree from that same institution.
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So why exactly would we want to trap your illerate asses….boy please…oh my bad, to whomever this statements applies.
And also if we could please proofread our entries from this point on..thanks…misspelling a word here and there, or occasionally leaving one out is normal…but if your entire THESIS is misspelled and incorrect it only takes away more of the credibility that you are already lacking…just a thought…to no one in particular of course.
SBM….Please PLEASE start a blog for Hasani. I will even pitch in on any hosting fees should the Hasmestier want to take his musings to an actual domain.
Hasani…I'm finished with your data rants. Its really not that applicable EVER. Not only are you not capbale of providing who your sources are, you can't speak objectively or intelligently about it. It is NOT the black woman's fault that MOST ethnic groups are waiting later to marry due to delayed adolescence. Personal income and levels of perceived stability also play a huge role (ie, if a black person feels that marriage can only be attained once a certain level of financial stability is reached, and given how income is stratified amoung race in this country, voila DISPARITY. There is also some residual affect on welfare policies inacted some 25 years ago which actually penalized a black married couple or a co-habitating relationship.
I really don't read Hasani's entries so can ya'll tell me why all the census stats are flying around?
thats normal. Say lets sit down and talk about numbers…. we bring out the numbers, they dont turn out the way you planed so you rebuke the results and then say your finished talking about numbers?!!??!!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?
finished with "my" data rants when it wa syou in a prior post who asked for those numbers?
you even said you would go out on the date with me when i got you those statistics that I just posted…….
It is NOT the black woman’s fault that MOST ethnic groups are waiting later to marry due to delayed adolescenc
huh? most ethnic groups are getting married higher… before most black women… after most black women and longer than most black women.
my results come form census… we already spoke about it, and we all have access to the same data. if you actually thought I made the numbers up…. then nobody would be upset about them. truth irritates, ignorance is laughed about and corrected. I dont see you laughing… I only see you irritated and I dont see disproving the numbers from census . but its not like im right or wrong… they are STATS… I didnt make them…
Teacia, I was the first person to point out the success of the middle class black woman as far as education and income. When I put up the stats that showed you guys killin the latinos and catching up the the white women nobody disputed the stats…. amazing huh
but when I tell you stuff your already telling me, all of the sudden I am "angry" and "making it up" and "a liar"
Most of you angry types, have a degree, a good job, and 2 pair of sunglasses and a score of boots/shoes…
and none of you are married with children and make a man happy everyday of his life… and the majority of you angry types have never done it for a long period of time (no 2 fucking years dosent count as a long time)
When you say "its the black mans fault … they are lazy ass niggas that dont want to commit!!!!!" thats anger and thats a lie. Todays black man (not the one from 1995) is very lovable and compassionate. Alot of us dont want to be like our fathers, we want to be more like our grandfathers. Good men, good family, and easy living with no stress and lots of nappyness! this is why we are getting married at such a high rate dispite the fact we are viewed as monsters and brutes by most of society.
you kick ass being a spinster but suck at building a family.
we kick ass at nothing… cept for the important thing, which is being lovable.
stats say black men dont make any money and dont know how to manuver in corporate america. I worked my way from the loading docks to being a tier 2.5 tec… do you know HOW far of a climb up the ladder that was? I was out of shape, now I can stay in the boxing ring for 6 rounds. I was a partyboy and grew into a housecat. I used to not care about anyone but me, and now I care about everyone too much. So yeah, you can be anything you want to and do alot more than you think you can.
(as far as love goes not finance) buck the stats and stop crying about them… and sure as shit stop complaining, whining, and blaming anyone except for yourself about it
if you like being what the stats say you are then fine… if you dont then get off you fat asses and do something about them.
Nobody has anything to say about Shaq!?
Tecia, you hate flossin ass negros… yet get in a constant war with others about how well your doing and how cool your business is and how great you look and how many more marriage proposals you have gotten than anyone else!?!?!?!?
but to show I do listen to you…
And let’s get another thing straight…we aren’t sitting around here trying to trap your broke asses, you’re the one feeding us with the have my baby bullshit b/c you’re aware of our upward mobility.
I like that… thats thinking. We now have a theory! support a theory with reasoning though.
Black men in your opinion are asking to have babies because we want to "trap" the blakc women right?
if thats your theory…. then what are you saying about yoru other theory that black men are leaving when we have the babies" as a woman who got knocked up… cant you shed some light on the subject of what you have seen with other women in you "category?"
Because if i wanted the money and the stability.. wouldnt I have stayed when we had the kid????
If you want to use the counter argument that black men dont know how to commit, I can point you back to how many of us are getting married…
In 1963 when Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. gave his "I Have a Dream" speech, more than 70 percent of all Black families were headed by married couples. In 2006 that number was 45 percent (census)
da fuk happened?
This is like my lunch entertainment.
"we bring out the numbers, they dont turn out the way you planed so you rebuke the results and then say your finished talking about numbers?!!??!!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?"
I would love to talk numbers with you, but where is your source, what year do these numbers come from? Then we can discuss year over year, we can get you to deny the overall trend is on a decline and its fascinating on the rate when you factor in location and age- even when you factor black women out…so how again is the black woman to blame for an overall trend FACTORING HER OUT.????
The above attributes that I mentioned before are why PEOPLE period are marrying later. Of course the stats would touch black people we represent part of the entire population.
again, I say you want to date non-black women but are looking for stats to make you feel better. (Asains & Hispanics do it BEST) partly because early marriage is apart of their cultural tradition, its insular, it protects and sustains them in ways other minorities don't need in this country. This country was founded on independane and the individual. So how again is the black woman to blame for the notions of autonomy, individualism and self???
Maybe it was Thomas Jefferson's and Sally Flemmings fault. When he help found this nation on the above principles maybe he was thinking of her home recking butt…from there it all went down hill….I think if I ever do my dissertation I'll explore Sally, the first angry black home recking woman.
Sally Hemmings.
But I'm not flossin mister..everything about me is real…as in TANGIBLE. As in you can see it, touch it, taste it or smell it…and my haters make me greater Sani baby…moving right along shall we.
I had this long drawn out statistical analysis, but I'm going to give it to you raw instead.
Today's black man is not who you think they are. They're not you, they're not loving and compassionate, looking to raise families and live together is nappyness. They THINK they're a commodity b/c women feed into "there's not enough good men out here"…which I believe is a lie. I meet them everyday, I see them everywhere I go, but b/c we hold on tp this belief that they're either taken, locked up or gay women latch on to the first thing they see and men take the opportunity to capitalize, like any good business man would. It's supply and demand. Make women believe that there is a shortage on the supply to increase the demand while holding out on the tangible goods, only driving the prices higher.
And to answer for women in my "category" it's simple. Men are stupid. Women are equally stupid. And let me show you how, instead of feeling disgraced by the epidemic of black men leaving their families, you choose to focus your blame women on getting knocked up to trap a man(utter stupidity). When the reality is that it takes a dick and a vagina to make it happen. We aren't drugging niggas, locking them up and extracting their sperm just to have their offspring. The problem is that leaving your child is no longer shameful. Getting pregnant out of wedlock is no longer shameful. My daughter's father and I were naive, at the time of conception we discussed the consequences of our actions, but we were so wrapped up in each other that we didn't think about the shame of a possible fall out. We saw the greatness in one another and figured that we would make it through it either way. Wrong. We weren't dealing with reality.
And I'm going to take it there on a deeper level for you, when a woman is laying in a man's arm, bodies naked and he brushes away the hair on her face and whispers how much he cares for her while letting her know that he will always be there to love and protect her we TEND to believe that shit…even when we know it's a lie we want so badly to believe it that it hurts. Now granted, there are some trifling ass chics out there who use pregnancy as leverage BUT to say that all unwed mothers or even most fall in that category is a misspeak. Throughout all of the "boyfriends" and "fiances" I had leading up to him I only got pregnant once and that was with him. I'm an optimist, a dreamer, a believer and I wanted to believe that we wouldn't become a statistic, but we are and that's that.
Oh and black men don't committ…not black men in my age group, not the one's in SBM's age group, yeah men over 30 are super eager to settle down but they should be. And yes they are willing to do whatever to tie the knot, but you don't represent an entire group, and I wish you would stop trying b/c no one is buying the argument.
bragging about what you have is braggin about what you have. your saying you hate flossin ass niggas but you get into arguments for page after page with other people about what you have.
I think I have you beat on this one
The fact that SEVEN men(damn yall are slow) proposed to me says nothing bad about me, it only says that I’m loving enough for a man to even want to spend the rest of his days with me. Man, yall seek negativity in ERRTHING…LOSERS!!!
And little girl don’t patronize me with that self-reflection bullshit in lower case letters after your ATTEMPT to put me on front in all caps.
gee getting in flame wars with other posters and belittling them? While I admit you clearly won the verbal sparing and I agreed with you for the most part… what I feel dosent matter. Its the fact that you claimed to hate flossin ass niggas, yet constantly throw around how much of a catch you are and how your ass is so phat and how your SO wonderful every man you have dated wanted to marry you….. thats bragging!!
Tiffany:
well we can discuss the stats all you want over dinner. See im a black man who is actually TRYING to date… I dont have a commitment problem (obviously)
i dont represent all black men and you dont represent all black women….. but we can see here that we have a black man, of breeding and marrying age… looking to breed and marry…. trying to explore romantic endevors with an attractive black female of breeding and marrying age……. the resolution is based on the black female… and I wonder what the response to the request for a date will be……..
(dont worry Ill put my own points up on the board thank you)
But then again I suppose Im not your type… LOL
other than finance and pedigree, I think i fit more than half the things on most of ya'lls "check list" you were talking about a few weeks back. ya i know you hate what I have to say when I talk about the truth… but then again, I do remember a sista saying
"(its good) when a brotha checks me every once and a while and calls me out on my shit"
wonder whose thoughts that was…… if im using this site as a microcosim of society. The ratio of black men to women is about similar…who here is active in dating and trying to date long term? I know I can raise my hand, Ive asked out or agreed to take out people from this site… now THATS pro active
on and to check a certain fine as hell silky haired sista again… for the FOURTH TIME.. stats are on census. Hit CTRL F on your keyboard and type Census and check out how many time I have said it on this page alone!
I cant belive yall got nuttin to say about Kobe and Shaq!?!
I never brought up how attractive I was, you did…never bragged about my ass either. I mentioned the engagements in passing, THEY asked me to expound on it and then sought fault in having men fall in love with me…never will I take blame for other's highlighting how wonderful I am…lol.
*yawning*
"I cant belive yall got nuttin to say about Kobe and Shaq!?!"
….b/c no one cares about a bunch of cheating rich/spoiled athletes going off at the mouth. another day, another drama.
actually shaq's wife cheated on HIM and stole/hid money from him… if you wanna be accurate.
HOLY SHIT! why am I talking?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cwBS7r_yw8&fe…
its me… only as an alpha male, and less geeky.
dude seriously he's been cheating on her since very beginning!! Carinne's book even outlined his some of the infidelity. Hell I know a chic who slept with Shaq…so cry me a river. you and i both know that that man has not been faithful a day in their marriage. And she didn't steal anything, hid it maybe but she didn't steal. They were joint assets, plain and simple. And in the grand scheme of things, 9 million is pocket change to him…so again cry me a river. He has been publicly humiliating her for quite some time now, including at her baby shower 2 summers ago…yep I was there and he was CUTTING A DAMN FOOL!
I can't get on the Shaq bandwagon, yeah Kobe snitched him out like the little b@tch he is…but hey if Shaq was acting right it wouldn't have gone down in the first place.
ROTFLMBAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OH MY GOD!!! THAT VIDEO WAS HILARIOUS!
OOOOOH MY GOOOOOD!!! THIS IS GOOD SHIT!!!
"“(its good) when a brotha checks me every once and a while and calls me out on my shit”
The operative words are EVERY ONCE and A WHILE…..I don't have much to check EVERYDAMN day. But yet you seem to find things…societal things from your very own warped perspective…things that even Jesus, Mary, and Joseph can't "fix". And more seriously because they aren't even broken. If this is a mircocosim…we actually had a pretty even distro of men to women several months back. Why don;t you go check those stats, while you look for something I wrote 3 months ago. Did SBM help you find it?
There is more security in the adventurous and exciting, for in movement there is life, and in change there is power.
Just so ya'll know … I'm still alive. Day job killing me … lacking mental capacity to read the round of essay submissions about who knows what today … so after I get home, go ride my motorcycle, cake a couple hours on the phone, and pour me a night cap … maybe then I will have the mental dexterity to be a good blogger and respond … maybe
dude seriously he’s been cheating on her since very beginning!"
shes a superstars wife… I think she would know what came with the territory. kinda like andre kerilinkos wife does. If its part of the equation at the outset its not against the law..
case in point.. magic and cookie. she knew…. let magic try and not come home now that hes just ERVING and not "MAGIC" she'd whoop dat azz quick.
whose corinne?
Kobe isnt a "little bitch" … that whole "stop snitchin" is a street thang.. kobe is italian. He may look black and rep philly, but he only spent 4 years oh HS there. I have said this before. Why would he think he wouldnt act like a guy from italy would? actually I take that back, the italian dudes form my old neighborhood woulda never done that either LOL.
I get mad when I don't get play (read: dick)…but that doesn't last long because…well I am a woman and dick is thrown my way daily…
So I guess there was no point to me saying that.
…but I was tryna identify with you back then ….and now you have much sex…so the you now too.
*just confused myself…lol*
Budda, you got quite a discussion over here. Read some…budda…eh…hi and thanks for stopping by.
Tiffany, I know you never hear me and barely listen to me.. partially because well you dont respect me
but I listen to you, being a man who was in a serious relationship and all… I actually know how to listen and filter. SO yes I remember all of what you say, I find you facinating so why wouldnt I remember what you say 3 months ago?
as far as SBM helping me… we are about as on the same page as Kobe and Shaq… note that this thread was a slight at me to entertain the female posters… and not really anything to talk about the advancements of dating. But we are both two knights of the same order.. but on seperate quests, which is why I call him brother and cuzin.
But If I fit so much of what you like in men, not by my words, but by yours.. and not everything on the "check list" but more than you would prob admit. Why such fear of commitment or romantic experimentation then? I keep asking…. Im a black man…. supposedly the black man has some fear of commitment and wants to date white women OMGSKYISFALLINGOMG!! But it seems the black middle class, corporate woman has a slight fear of a first date. Im about the least scary man in the world….
so I wonder what the problem is….. NAH has to be problem with the black men out here, because we all know that you guys are willing and able to date a good decent man when you find one …. right? (insert devious laugh here)
dude italian's don't snitch…if anything they have more allegiance than the folks in the hood. kobe was dead wrong for bringing up shaq's conquest during his rape trial…it was just messy and unnecessary for his defense…he was trying to shift guilt to show a pattern of men cheating in the league…it's just dishonorable…oh and did i mention messy.
carinne stephans a.k.a. superhead a.k.a confessions of a video vixen….yeah shaq got a whole chapter in that one…and that was only 2 years after he married Shaunie…niggas.
and the point about Shaunie knowing what she was getting into is correct, which is why you can't fault her for stashing the cash…and doing her personal trainer. to believe otherwise is hypocritical.
ooooooooooor, she just may not be attracted to you. not to be mean or anything, but did you ever think that you're not her cup of tea…just a thought.
@Hasani: I don't read your posts because they are too long, dear. I respect your opinion and you often do have valid points but dear heart YOU ARE LONG WINDED. And when I'm up at the man's job, I don't have time to read the novels.
More content is better than less miss houston. but I dont make a vesion for those too lazy to read or who suffer from ADD. I can respect yours as long as you can respect mine… but not reading and gaining more knowledge when its available… theres a word for that.
Of course theres a double standard between superstars and their wives… and STEALING if STEALING. the mentality that she is owed to steal money from her husband is fucking insane. you dont deserve to date much less ever be blessed by gods design to marry a black man with those thoughts in your mind. your married to SHAQ. 80million dollars is yours over the course of the rest of your life and all you gotta do is be loyal, be classy and keep him and your children happy. share and you can have everything or steal and get nothing… what a stupid fucking decision.
ok now I have wiki'd corinne. Yeah I wouldnt know who the fuk that is LOL. I dont watch crap like that so I would have no exposure to a person like that….
oh … side question… Teacia am I physicallly attractive? since you brought it up. (gets cyber popcorn) I know this ones gonna hurt to say
First I'm going to finish up the Shaq comment. You even said yourself that marrying a man/athlete of wealth comes with certain expectations…ADULTERY IS ADULTERY. the mentality that he is able to fuck around on his wife b/c he's bringing large sums of cash into the scene is f@cking insane.(trying not to curse) you don't deserve to date much less ever be blessed by god's design to one of us sexy slim or curvacious sisters with those thoughts in your mind.
What's good for the goose Sani baby is good for the gander. Oh and you are loooooong winded, some people just have no desire to read you rant on…you're intelligent enough to condense your thoughts sweetheart…come on show us what you're really working with.
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*sighing* ok, so i kind of like MY men one way, and I'M not particularly attracted to you but that doesn't mean you aren't physically attractive. you're a bit generic for my taste. i like men who stand out(and no i don't mean thugs…i despise those ignant fools…but i digress), if i passed you on the streets i wouldn't remember you but i'm kind of vain soooooo unless i know you or i see you and am like "DAYUM he's fine." you will get no play. you have beautiful eyes though…some chics LOVE that. and a beautiful smile…and i happen to be a teeth girl. oh hell maybe i don't find you attractive b/c i find you slightly annoying. the skinny Hasani is DEFINITELY a NO GO!! But the bulked up Sani isn't that bad, and honestly attractive enough for less shallow individuals who don't find you slightly annoying.
@Hasani: Your long winded. You showed statistics without drawing a logical conclusion and you argue like a politician (except worst). You through out statistics hope to illicit an emotional response and then just start yelling. And unfortunately you have "inadvertantly" picked several fights and made some out-of-pocket comments that I didn't appreciate. The biggest was bringing in a quote of the huge argument that ensued recently. Just given the length of your comments and frequency, you must start a blog of your own … as its the only logical chose.
So … I say this with a great pain … but I must issue an ultimatum. The following things must be followed by you (and everyone else for that matter).
1) Comments must be cut in size … drastically. I'm tired of you writing more personally then everyone else combined. Today it spread and I say several essay by people who do possess the ability to keep it succint. Then you try and justify your length. Just stop it!
2) No more personal attacks (this is really for some others too … you know who you are!). You dropped the b* word yesterday (resulting in a pulled comment) and have made some pretty outrageous acqusations. You just called Tiffany lazy because she can't stand essays either.
I had more, but I'm not gonna start censoring here … but if you cannot keep the length of your posts down (especially since you love to hijack the comments and post a lot, while attacking others) … I will be forced to start moderating every one of your comments before they appear. Since I work … that could lead to 3-6 hour delays before they appear here.
Didn't want to take it there … but I'm tired of coming to my own blog and hating to read the comments! And I'll be damned if there is gonna be another all out brawl like before!
See I dont HAVE an argument or logical conclusion LOL
See thats what stats do to people. I post what the stats are and, I usually dont need to have an opinion or interpretation. I dont cook stats or make stats. I am here to inform by giving information… you are all smart black people, most of you are smarter than me. take the numbers and make your own conclusions fo yourselves.
Moderate my comments brother, you have the power to do so if that is what you choose. Im a journalist its not a slight to me to have an editor shank me. but my Black people can do more than post AIM msg.
I didnt call Tiff lazy, but I dont make a version for those who dont want to read. thats why you have that little Minus button next to all the post. I appreciate that she says flat out she wont comment on my post but respects my opinions because they contain valid points. I respect hers she respects mine and thats what I said.
Oh and I didnt start that last brawl! In truth, Uncle HNIC was nowhere near a computer. Just like the last melee that happened before it… I was gone then too. for more than a day in fact
The irony that I was at a fight both time a cyber fight broke out.
I have a bout on laborday weekend, I wonder if they can do 3 for 3?