Girl … Ignore them roaches …

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Not my real room!

Her: “OMG”
SBM: “What?”
Her: “What happened in her?  Was there a fight?”
SBM: “Girl … your funny.  Its just a little messy.  I warned you before we came.”
Her: “No warning could have prepared me for this!  You have got to be kidding me!”
SBM: “I told you I live the bachelor lifestyle … and its not that bad.  There is no old food or anything like that.”
Her: “How can you tell?”
SBM: “Can we just watch some TV? Its not that serious!”
Her: “If you say so!”

I am an … untidy individual.

I have cleaned before, do clean periodically, and have rules about what is deemed “too dirty” … but I am and always have been a messy individual.

I use stuff and don’t put it away.  I drop my clothes on the floor.  I have mail scattered on the coffee table.

But … I’m a man … and I pay the mortgage … and I live by myself … right?

Once in my past I was entertaining female company.  She made her self right at home in my cluttered home.  She enjoyed herself, spent the night, etc. etc.  A few days later she told me something which I would never have thought.

“When I first came into your house I assumed you didn’t really like me … because you didn’t clean.”

Come again … ?

While I haven’t found many women who will cosign or agree with this exact statement, I have found a few. I’ve been told the following reasons to help explain this phenomenon:

  • If you really like a girl … you want to impress her. A clean house is impressive.
  • Most girls are turned off by dirt.  If you want to turn her on … there should be no dirt.
  • The smell of old pizza/socks/mayonnaise is not a turn-on.
  • How can you make love in a bed full of dirty clothes?
  • Gross != Sexy

Now … I have learned the error of my ways.  Part of me realizes that this girl was right … maybe my feelings weren’t as strong as I thought.  Ever since her every woman that I have major feelings for and graces the presence of my home is often treated with vacuuming, straightening up, and even a little dusting.  Once, I was having a PGF (potential girlfriend) visit me from Atlanta … I enlisted the help of 3 friends and my mother just to make sure everything was perfect … and I realize this was because I really liked the girl.

JOs and FwB get the clothes pushed off the bed and onto the floor …

One thing that still troubles me a bit … aren’t men supposed to be dirty?

Now, I’m not talking about college dorm room disgusting, but doesn’t a man with a well coordinated and super clean house raise suspicions?  Doesn’t the fresh scent of reed diffusers, a dust free countertop, and the lingering smell of lemon pledge make a woman wonder … did he or his boyfriend clean this?  Isn’t one reason for marriage (traditionally) was to mate a dirty man with a tidy woman … and them to argue into eternity about leaving the ketchup out on the table (that’s how i grew up)?

Also … how does it work in reverse?  I remember another PGF who I was in their house.  She damn near put my college self to shame.  There was laundry in the living room, no trash bag in the trash can, and just reminants of past meals lying on the countertop.  Ok … it wasn’t as bad as me in college … but I guess women tend to be a lot better (therefore creating higher expectations) than us savages.

Since I am one simple man with one meager opinion, I ask you … my readers … who I love dearly … how important is the cleanliness of a man’s house?  Should it be spotless, should it be a little dirty … but not disgusting, or does it even matter?  Does a penis give you the right to live in squaler and not be judged?

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Founder & Creator of SingleBlackMale.org. My healthy obsession with dating, relationships, and trying to identify and address the problems of dating in Black America. I also happen to be a mean sumb*tch who likes to hear himself talk ... but I'm funny though.

Comments

  1. I always read your posts and hope that you're being just a tad bit facetious. You can't possibly believe that cleanliness = the ghey (or even a suspicion of gay).

    Cleanliness means you're clean and orderly. Now, before moving to Tokyo, I lived alone and no, I wouldn't have everything spic and span every second. But there's gotta be something in you that says, "Man, I'm living WRONG and it's time to straighten this place up!" Particularly when you have company. It's just the thing to do. It reflects on you, how you take care of yourself and what you'd expect someone else to do.

    A slobby man makes me think he doesn't care about much. He also makes me think he requires a lot of babying. No thanks.

    Not too long ago I visited a guy and his place was so neat. I was impressed, not thinking he wasn't masculine enough.

    I swear you're crazy.

  2. Satya says:

    Umm a penis does not give you the right to live in squalor and not be judged.If you're going on date or know you may potentially be bringing home a woman can't you throw everything in the closetguestroomother bathroomunder the bed before she comes over? It doesn't need to be spotless but an attempt at cleaning shows you care.

    A man with an immaculate house isn't necessarily suspicious but not desired bc i'm not the best at maintaining home either. I clean once a week so if youe come over wo notice after Wed. the apt. is messy ex: clothes thrown on the chair in my room and every coat sweater and scarf i've worn during the week on the couch lol. Remnants of old food,hairs all over the bathroom sink, a full sink of dishes, drawers in the middle of the bathroom floor and questionable looking sheets are all unacceptable practices. As are bathroom towels that smell.

  3. Okay…just-no. When I remember the times I've visited cats and gone into a bathroom with NO SOAP on the sink, ring around the tub, a toilet seat up with dried piss stains on the rim, and other such f*ckery, I justifiably drew the conclusion that he was a nasty bastid. For me, a man with a messy crib is an absolute turn off. To me, it says alot about his character. It kills me when a man is fresh to death–looking and smelling good, suited and coifed to the nines and has a disgustingly frayed toothbrush, and grayscale washcloths that were white when he bought them.

    Now I'm not saying brotha has to be OCD, white glove test clean. But I don't want to see spiderwebs in every corner and a 1/2 inch coat of dust covering everything.

    I'm a firm believer that an unkempt environment is reflective of inner chaos. Oh, and being lazy as hell.

    Not a good look.

  4. Akua says:

    I agree with @satya. if u pop up unexpectedly there maybe a sink full of dishes and a chair with my coats for the week. and I need to hang my clothes up. I have 2 of the messiest kids on the face of the earth. who leave a trail of clothes whereever they go. but sbm u do have a point if I really really am feeling someone and they even get an invitation to my house, it will spotless. I believe first impression of someone's home says a lot. however I have dated dudes with less then tidy houses and cleaned up for them and they appreciated it.

  5. Jubilance says:

    I'mma start by saying I am a messy person by nature. I've gotten to the point where every room in my apartment will be spotless, but my bedroom is the one place I can be messy (cause I dont have anyone but me going in there).

    That said, I can tolerate a messy guy, but messy is different than just straight up nasty. There should not be old food left out, a pile of dishes in the sick that are 2 weeks old, hair in the sink, etc.

    A dirty/nasty will definitely change my opinion of a guy. I have a male friend who is notorious for claiming that he cleaned up, yet when you walk into his house there is clothes, food, and other assorted crap everywhere. I told him he needed either a maid or a girlfriend.

  6. Jac says:

    I refuse to approve this. I think you can do better. My father always cleaned and every man I have ever known also managed to get his house clean and keep it so. In fact, for me, if I know you're coming over I will clean until I only have five or ten minutes to shower. It's just kinda that way you know. Even with a certain gentlemen I would clean up the entire time he was at work. Everything would be perfect…because I loved him. And for this, let me get sick/tired whatever and I've had plenty men be like let me come clean for you.

    That right there…can be the business sometimes…yeah you can come over but you won't be cleaning anything

  7. Frat, I got to call "out" on this one. I can't have a messy house. I've told women that they can't come over before because I didn't feel my house was in order for company.

    Being former military I'm used to some type of order and cleanliness in my household. It may not be spotless all the time but it gives that illusion. Everything in it's place.

    I've gone to some women's places and their dwellings were in disarray. I remember when I went to Turtle's place for the first time, I didn't even want to sit on the couch.

    Jamie Foxx said it best, "women like comfortable things" and a comfortable thing for a woman is to come to a nice place and not have to fear that they will be taking any of your little friends home with them for unexpected new roommates.

    The rest of my life may not be in order, but my house will be.

  8. Tam says:

    I'm definitely NOT the most tidy person so I can't say too much without being a hypocrite. I don't care if a man has clothes and other crap laying on the floor or pushed up in the corner or under the bed. However the one thing that will have me running from the house is a nasty @ss bathroom! If I feel like I shouldn't sit down on the toilet stool (because of old pee stains, unknown stains, etc) then that is a problem. If I feel like I'd get dirtier instead of cleaner by taking a shower in a tub that was once white but is now a nasty shade of gray then that is a problem. Other than that I'm cool with the clutter.

  9. Anesidora says:

    There's a difference between messy & filthy. I'll admit that I'm not a tidy person….I have a lot of clutter around & I don't always do my dishes when I should, but I (think) I don't let it get too out of control. I think everyone, men included, should at least do that. I don't mind some clutter from men, but a penis is not a license to be filthy. I hate that there's a double standard that dictates that XY chromosomes make you more domestic by default…puts a lot of pressure on me, particularly considering I'm playing a "traditional man role" with my career too.

    And being uber tidy does not make you suspect. Just means you were raised to be that way. That's how my dude is & he's every bit of a man.

  10. I agree with Anesidora..I expect a little mess..lots of dirt and I'm out, i kind of have a thing about kitchen's and bathrooms with people period. I do make some exceptions with LIFE period. My little work space in my office looks like a hurricane hit it. But best believe it will be straight tomorrow.

    Also for a professional man whose doing alright with himself…i never understood why he don't know how to call merry maid…hel! if life gets too tough for me and i need help, they @zz is on speed dial.

  11. Britt says:

    I am with your friend. If a man invited me over (especially for the first time) and I accepted the invitation I would expect that he picked up a bit for the occassion. If it looked like he did nothing to the house before I came over I would deem it pretty disrespectful. It's like you didn't think enough of me to vaccuum the carpet, I would be annoyed.

  12. Reign says:

    @ Golden Lady: I co-sign!
    @ Jac: I'm the same way!!! Even if my crib is tidy, I will vacuum, bleach, dust and still have time to do my visitation rituals, lol.

    "but doesn’t a man with a well coordinated and super clean house raise suspicions? Doesn’t the fresh scent of reed diffusers, a dust free countertop, and the lingering smell of lemon pledge make a woman wonder …"

    Ummm no… I walk in thinking nice place! I'm probably already nervous if this is my first time over, makes me feel comfortable. Most of my guy friends have a maid that comes every two weeks right before the weekend, in between they straighten up themselves. Your home is your sanctuary, your body you temple… keeping them both nice and clean consistently doesn't make you less of a man.

  13. Dom says:

    Filth is not sexy on a man or a woman. If Im dating a guy I'm going to assume that if he really liked me, he'd at least have his place clean when I come over.

    If his place is dirty I would certainly limit my time around him.

  14. That one is pretty shocking to me, I'd never heard cleanliness in relation to how a man feels about me.

    I am a neat freak and I need my man to be clean also… I can't feel comfortable in a dirty house (there are some family members I won't even visit)…I will not eat in a dirty house.

    A clean man will treat my home as such when he comes to visit. Fortunately for me, most of the men I've dated have also been completely neat!

    I'm not talking white glove test clean, but I also don't need the dust forming their own colony, it just has to be organized and picked up… and please dont' get me started on the bathroom!

  15. SBM says:

    Damn.

    Guess I need to go get me a maid service.

  16. Tunde says:

    I'm a man and I'm very tidy. Cleanliness is next to godliness is what I live by. If I'm done using something I put it away. I clean my house (bathroom and kitchen especially) once a week. I don't think there is anything wrong with a man keeping a clean home.

    I don't have to worry if someone I'm feeling comes over, because my house never gets dirty. (Most) Women don't feel comfortable in places that are messy. I know if I went over a woman's house and it was messy that would tell me a lot about her as a person. I probably wouldn't want to return. lol.

  17. Reign says:

    @ SBM: Yea dude, you need to do something. Do it because it needs to be done, not because of a chicks perception of what it should be.

  18. "Damn.

    Guess I need to go get me a maid service."

    Yessir. Please get it done… all it takes is really one good cleaning and then you picking up weekly.

  19. I wouldn't mind it if my significant other were messier than me. It makes me feel, well, human. I am not a neat freak. I throw clothes on the floor. But I'm not nasty and will clean up if a guy is coming over.

    My boyfriend on the other hand is ANAL about things being clean. At first, it bothered me. I was like, "dang, is he going to expect this from me???"

    All in all, cleanliness is important. Don't be straight up nasty. But for me, I can deal with "lived in". It doesn't have to smell like bleach and lysol when I come over because I'm not that way.

  20. Kwana in DC says:

    I pretty much agree with Golden Lady shat doesn't have to be spotless, but dayum!!!
    Messy with clothes and Trife with filth are two diff animals…

  21. Cheekie says:

    A little messy is a loooong way from being nasty. A little mess here or there in a guy's pad? Yeah, I expect that of a bachelor. But, roaches? Hells no. I am roach racist.

    Also, when you're bringing someone over to your house for the first few times? That getting-to-know-you stage? Well, cleaning your crib is simple respect. Aside from it reflecting on you as a person, it just shows respect for the other individual…assuming you have it for them, of course. And that goes for bringing any sort of company to your house for the first time. Yeah, it's different once they know you already and they're just there to kick it, but first impressions are a must and believe it or not, your home is a reflection of you.

    Also, I want to point out that I see lots of straight men getting into the diffusers tip. That ish smells good! I'm not saying get some raspberry pink splash type Ryan Seacrest scent, but something neutral like cinnamon or Axe Deoderant vanilla.

  22. SBM, I would have to disagree. I was raised by my grandparents and they didn't play when it came to being clean. So I've never been a messy person and I keep the spot clean at all times. It's just my nature or a habit I guess. Point being, a clean home can be seen as a sign of maturity and I want women to see that when they come over. I'm serious about my lifestyle so I can be serious about them too.

  23. CPT Callamity says:

    My father instilled in us from the jump that we should always keep a clean home. Therefore, any subsequent apartment or condo (currently) has been in presentable condition for most women-folk. My bedroom is another story but I'll take the ding for "untidy and strategically cluttered" as opposed to trifling. The two places that a put the most emphasis on is the bathroom (where you wash your ass) and kitchen (where you eat/prepare your food). The living room is the least occupied room in the place, so it's usually spotless.

    Now I know some women see me with such a tidy disposition and pull out the black woman trump card (i.e. "Are you gay?") because my domestic hygiene is as tight as my personal. I think that's rather unfair.

  24. CPT Callamity says:

    OH yeah…CPT doesn't do roaches. I Borax bomb the shyte out of them brown crawly muthas!!!

  25. Bam says:

    "One thing that still troubles me a bit … aren’t men supposed to be dirty?"

    No. No one is supposed to be dirty. I don't even understand this notion.

    It's like saying, "Isn't pussy supposed to smell like that?"

    I am very clean but more organized than clean. Meaning, I may have a few clothes strewn about, but I have clear evidence of there being structure, (hence the neatly labeled shoe boxes atop the closet). Also, my workspace tends to stay cluttered because it is used so often. But you will not be tripping over crumbs on my carpet or wondering if that ring in the toilet is part of the color scheme. That's just gross.

    How clean your house is does tell a woman if you like her or not for the exact reasons you outlined above. If you want to leave a lasting positive impression, you will tidy up.

    B

  26. Reign says:

    J. McFly and CPT make a good point about parents instilling the habit of cleanliness. I think it makes a difference for most people. However, I was a spoiled brat and did only my laundry growing up because my clothes were too fab for my moms to accidentally wash wrong. Didn't clean or wash dishes til I was in college. But because I was use to a clean environment I learned and made cleaning a habit of my own.

    SBM, I wonder if that is your case, or if you were forced to clean so much that you're now rebelling?? just a thought lol

  27. Reign says:

    "“One thing that still troubles me a bit … aren’t men supposed to be dirty?”

    No. No one is supposed to be dirty. I don’t even understand this notion.

    It’s like saying, “Isn’t pussy supposed to smell like that?” "

    Preach! Don't make no got darn sense… suppose to be dirty? Come on dude

  28. SBM says:

    Just so it is known … SBM does not have roaches. I just thought it was a funny title!

    Also … I do actually have reed diffusers in my house … with a neutral Ocean something scent.

    I feel somewhat shamed now hearing of all these guys. This weekend I'm walling myself up and cleaning all the rooms!

    @Reign: My mom was anal … my dad was kinda dirty … and she used to scream at us (my brother included) all the time. I think I'm rebelling. My dad did yell at me to clean when I was young … but I just learned methods to talk my way out of it … and isn't that a lot more useful in life than the ability to clean???

    @Bam: Wait … you mean it doesn't have to smell like that? Stop playing!!!

  29. Damn.

    Guess I need to go get me a maid service.

    @ SBM …PRONTO…you leave with a hurricane…you comeback with order. You can't beat that with a stick.

    if a man is coming over…i do the white glove test..a man should be hollin' at merry ..SBM don't bring no more women over to a messy @zz house mkay?

  30. My room is usually somewhat in between cuz of work, track, blogging, chilling, etc. If someone is comin thru, I'll straighten it up but I won't OD. The rest of my apartment is clean so it's whatever. I'd rather her see a little clutter than set the wrong baseline. Nahmean?

  31. ladebelle says:

    i don't think that being spotless is necessary because i do think that women expect men to be on the messier side but i will say that the neater things are, the more impressed women will be.

    one of my ex-JOs was particularly neat. he had all his kicks in boxes and his closet was super organized and shit was spotless. i was not only impressed with his D game but his organizational skills as well. plus the neater things are, the more focused a woman can be on the act instead of worrying about roaches crawling in inappropriate places, ya dig?

  32. " feel somewhat shamed now hearing of all these guys. This weekend I’m walling myself up and cleaning all the rooms!"

    Halleluyer there are miracles. LOL

  33. I dated a guy whose socks and t shirts were neatly folded in his drawers… his closet was IMMACULATELY.

    Impressed thee he!! out of me.

  34. SBM says:

    @Nicki: See … even to me folding your socks seems a little questionable. I tell ya …

    @Slim: Man … I forgot all about the baselining argument. Don't want them thinking I'm pulling out the vacuum on the regular!

  35. Danielle says:

    I welcome this behavior. You need to know what your getting into from the beginning. I don't mind cleaning. So if I walked in your house and it looked like that. I would of immediately cleaned up a little spot for us to chill in. So my response is Yes!!! this is expected out of men to have some type of dirty disposition. I once dated a clean man, and he was totally anal and all he ever wanted to do was sit around and drink wine. I completely relate to this post because my S/O is the sloppiest man I ever met. But I think if a girl is feeling you she's going to look past that. Ladies I want you to remember what your position is.

  36. CPT Callamity says:

    No reed diffuser. I light charcoal incense however and use carpet powder. Usually my home smells like whatever I've been cooking though (which is a good thing by the way).

    I've got a friend who is OCD with his cleanup methods. I can't say I'm that involved but when stuff starts to look untidy or like it has the potential to grow legs…I've got to do something!

  37. shooter says:

    yo!

    so yea.. I dated a chick back when that was a MESS at her home and it definetly wasn't a good look. I remember telling my boys how dissappointed I was that such a beautiful woman could live in that dirty of a place.. I don't normally mind a potentials place lookin like she actually lived there, but to have bugs I aint never seen before crawling all around, dishes piling up in the kitchen, hair everywhere, the constant smell of cat piss and don't even get me started on the bathroom eventually killed it for me.. (her cat eventually ran away and to this day I really believe it

    couldn't take the flith anymore lol)

    I am a single straight 29yr old man whose place stays clean at all times. not just when I am having company but at ALL TIMES. coming home to a clean home after a stress day on the "plantation" helps me relax. maybe its just me, but I find it impossible to relax when my home is unkept.

    ants crawling all over while you sleep.. ugh!

  38. Danielle says:

    @ Reign being dirty and being sloppy are differn't things. I don't agree with dirty men that don't keep there own personal hygene up, but throwing clothes on the flr, or wearing a dirty t-shirt is expected.

  39. kriscole25 says:

    Hey everyone, great post! Well I am very very funny/anal about clean things and organization. My mother use to stay on me and my brother about cleaning up. My used to tell me that it is cool for people to come over and your house is not clean. She told me also that no man wants a nasty woman and etc etc. Now it makes it hard for me to date a man who is dirty (I mean dirty carpet, dirty walls, unclean bathroom, and etc. I have done it and honestly it makes me not want to come over his house. I don't question a guy who is clean because that says a lot about who he is as a person. Oh and if your place is dirty, I will think long and hard about giving you the business because in my mind, your body may not be clean. Ok I've said enough lol.

  40. Britt says:

    In my mind there are distinctions between when you are regularly dating someone and when you invite them over for the first (or second or third time). Just like you dress down a little and are more casual after you get to know someone better, you can let them see a little mess if ya'll have swapped time, spit or other bodily fluids. But a first impression is a lasting impression. Please put away your laundry on my first visit.

  41. CPT Callamity says:

    Never mess with a woman who has:

    - low water pressure in her shower
    - tub corners that grow brown mutations.
    - a funky toilet
    - a bathroom sink that could serve as a petri dish
    - a kitchen that looks under used.
    - a kitchen that isn't clean
    - a mattress with no sheets
    - she walks around barefooted and the bottom of her feet are black
    - roaches…period!

  42. Jac says:

    There is some hilarious things going on on this site today.

    CPT-The above comment is the most. Although, I will admit that it is kinda true. Looking around in here right now…you can see where I am folding laundry and dishes need to be washed. I dunno though-I think these are things that just have to be done. And they will be usually by 3pm everyday.

  43. "@Nicki: See … even to me folding your socks seems a little questionable. I tell ya …"

    Good Lord SBM… LOL.. It's just going that extra mile… kinda anal behavior but it's impressive that someone would do little things like that..

    My underwear drawer has panties er'where. LOL

  44. "- a kitchen that looks under used.
    - a kitchen that isn’t clean"

    A clean kitchen is sooo important!!!! I clean as I cook though.

  45. Danielle says:

    - tub corners that grow brown mutations.
    - a funky toilet
    - a bathroom sink that could serve as a petri dish
    - a kitchen that looks under used.
    - a kitchen that isn’t clean
    - a mattress with no sheets
    - she walks around barefooted and the bottom of her feet are black
    - roaches…period!

    The same thing goes for a man. That's just ghetto

  46. CPT Callamity says:

    @JAC

    I'm an industrial strength cleaner. You, as mentioned before, also know that I'm prior service. When those privates first come in, many of them are used to their moms doing everything for them. Then Uncle Sam puts foot in dat azz and wants things done in detail. I still have a lot of that in me even though I get lazy at times. My biggest thing is clean surfaces that I touch, meaning countertops should be sterilized once every couple of days via steam or a good spray. The bathroom should be disinfected at the very least once a week and the towels changed weekly.

  47. "My biggest thing is clean surfaces that I touch, meaning countertops should be sterilized once every couple of days via steam or a good spray. "

    CPT: Got me. I think you should move in with me. :)

  48. I am not the cleanest person. In fact my room is a mess right now because i came back from travel and rushed to pack before I left, and havent quite unpacked just yet. I had company over on monday, and he could not even peak in my room because I was ashamed. So we just chilled in the living room.

    i will not let people over my house if its junky. that would defy all my morals and how i was raised. men who ive become very comfortable with can see a lil clutter, but not too much. on top of that, i know how to make everything spic and span martha stweart style when needed.

    a man does not want a woman who doesnt know how to keep house, and i dont want to have to kick a mans draws across the floor eiher

  49. CPT Callamity says:

    @Nicki Sunshine

    Is that right? What's the dangling carrot?

  50. "@Nicki Sunshine

    Is that right? What’s the dangling carrot?"

    @CPT: Uhhh, me??? Hello? I'm fabulous.

    LMAO.. I'm kidding… really not THAT conceited.

  51. CPT Callamity says:

    You could get it but there's gotta be some incentive…

  52. "You could get it but there’s gotta be some incentive…"

    I can show you about the drama-less girls. :)

  53. CPT Callamity says:

    Hmmm….tempting. You'll really introduce me to both of them?

  54. "Hmmm….tempting. You’ll really introduce me to both of them?"

    Heck yeah.. and a whole lot more.. stick with me kid, and you'll learn some things. LOL

  55. SBM says:

    @CPT: I will admit that I do have a thing about other people's sheets. I dated a girl who only owned one pair of sheets … and since we weren't exclusive … I was never 100% happy about sleeping in her bed with her. But some of that other stuff … I could forgive.

    @Danielle: Finally someone agrees with me somewhat in expecting us to be a little bit untidy when it comes to the house.

    @All: I've decided to go home early and put in that work. I will admit that it currently things are in very bad condition.

  56. "@All: I’ve decided to go home early and put in that work. I will admit that it currently things are in very bad condition."

    We need before pics! Don't be ashamed now. LOL

  57. CPT Callamity says:

    @SBM
    You'll thank yourself later, although I hate cleaning up and then I forget where something is prompting me to tear everything up again to find it.

    @ Nicki
    Okay, run it down! Might not be able to move in (my mortgage will not allow) but I can use the network connection.

  58. "@ Nicki
    Okay, run it down! Might not be able to move in (my mortgage will not allow) but I can use the network connection."

    WE need to sell your house, simple as that… Don't worry, we handle closings at my law office. LOL

  59. shooter says:

    I have been told I take it too far wit this one.. but a dirty car is a pet peeve of mine too.. I don't mean a dirty exterior but the interior.. old used pieces of gum stuck to the dash, CDs all over scratched beyond repair, trunk full of clothes & shoes, fast food wrappers all over.

    messy cars almost always = a dirty crib

  60. "but a dirty car is a pet peeve of mine too.. I don’t mean a dirty exterior but the interior.. old used pieces of gum stuck to the dash, CDs all over scratched beyond repair, trunk full of clothes & shoes, fast food wrappers all over. "

    @Shooter: U are so right… I wont' ride in my cousin's car either (mentioned her house somewhere up above.). I have before and got out feeling like I needed a shower

  61. Reign says:

    @ Danielle: wearing a dirty shirt is not at all acceptable.

    But it seems SBM agrees with this *side eye*… lol j/k I'm sure you're fresh and clean

  62. Jac says:

    I’m an industrial strength cleaner. You, as mentioned before, also know that I’m prior service. When those privates first come in, many of them are used to their moms doing everything for them. Then Uncle Sam puts foot in dat azz and wants things done in detail. I still have a lot of that in me even though I get lazy at times. My biggest thing is clean surfaces that I touch, meaning countertops should be sterilized once every couple of days via steam or a good spray. The bathroom should be disinfected at the very least once a week and the towels changed weekly.

    Wow…hmm well..I disagree on a couple of things…countertops here are everyday and bathrooms are every day I cannot have it any other way. Maybe ?I could show you some things.

    Has anyone every seen those shows about hoarders where people have the filthiest houses ever but look like a million bucks? It's like a disease

  63. SBM says:

    @Reign: Define a "dirty" shirt. If I'm cleaning up or running to get the mail … I will wear a dirty shirt. To work, movies, or even the grocery store … nothing but the freshest.

    @Danielle: You know … I think I am willing to do before and after pics. But the afters might have to be after a few days and a few rounds of cleaning. Hmmm … how am I gonna do that one?

    @CPT: I'll assume your right about thanking myself later … because just the though has me wanting to stay late at work.

  64. CPT Callamity says:

    @ shooter: Don't even start with a dirty car.

    That's another ding for the ladies with children: they usually have unconventionally filthy and cluttered cars. However, I have me the woman who is "skrong and independent" yet her car looks like a debris museum on any given day. This is usually the woman that can be predicted to say "ohhh, CPT, you keep your car so clean…I need you to do mine." This is also the reason why most of the time you hear me say "we'll take my car."

  65. "Hmmm….tempting. You’ll really introduce me to both of them?"

    My younger more advanced friend jsut told me what this meant… seriously. LMAO

  66. Jac says:

    haha @ Nic

    I think it's CPT's duty…to…well you know the rest.

  67. "I think it’s CPT’s duty…to…well you know the rest."

    I don't. Help me out please…. [promise I'm not really slow...]

  68. Jac says:

    Please that booty

  69. @Jac: oooooh… well look at what number you are. What a coincidence.

  70. shooter says:

    @cpt

    I'm the same way.. I drive when I go out, not to satisfy a control issue, but to guarantee a clean ride wit no gum stuck to bottom off my shoe or on my a.. lol

    and I have to agree wit jac, it is yo duty to please that.. lol

  71. Danielle says:

    @ Reign Trust me you most likely dated a man that wore his t-shirt two days in a row. These jokers do that with our thinking twice.

  72. Luvvie says:

    I didn't red any of the previous comments so if I'm repeating sumfin, then… well it Be's like that.

    I would not expect a man's house to look like he has a Butler, maid and cleaning service. I do expect a lil bit of untidyness. However, if your crib looks like an apartment from that ol Eddie Murphy Claymation show "The PJs", the look of disgust on my face will kill whatever mood you were in. I doubt you be able to pop anything off as I hold my nose and make a strong effort not to touch anything.

    Foot&Mouth Disease Ho Sh*t is not whats up

  73. Mr. FAQs says:

    I got a mild case of OCD so my place stays preatty in order…and I've found my dirty is others "I just cleaned up." It goes back to my childhood.

    If I'm chillen at one of my boys spots tho and its not clean, I don't judge but usually give the benefit of the doubt and say yea, most cats is messy and/or dirty. But chicks with nasty ass homes…I can't do it.

    If you can't wipe your counter how good do you wipe your pussy?

  74. SBM says:

    @CPT & Nicki: How many days has this flirting been going on for? Didn't Slim already call ya'll out?! Ya need me to set up the email address exchange?

    @Danielle: I mean … one t-shirt two days in a row … that aint that bad. I do it often enough when I'm pulling sleepovers at someone's house.

    @Nicki: In hindsight … not sure if your ready for CPT. He might say "Lets make cookies *wink*" … and then next thing you know your out buying dough and chocolate chips.

  75. Danielle says:

    @ SBM that's what I was trying to explain

    @CPT & Nicki yeah ya'll have had alot of slick talks

  76. Danielle says:

    @SBM shouldn't you be home cleaning right now

  77. Danielle says:

    @SBM shouldn't you be home cleaning

  78. Co-sizzle@ Mr. FAQs! To piggyback on the counter-wiping correlation, a dude with a musty house definately has musty balls.

    Not hapnin cap'n.

  79. Jac says:

    @CPT-Whatev. Why you gotta call me out like that? What did I do for you? And if I'm being bad does that mean you are going to spank me?

  80. Jac says:

    "If you can’t wipe your counter how good do you wipe your pussy?"

    Now I haven't cleaned the house today, but I was scrubbing the cabinets and such yesterday and I find if I clean the lady parts like that they'd be kinda sore. I dunno I don't always always clean house…but her…everyday

  81. CPT Callamity says:

    @Jac

    It's true…you'd like a spanking now wouldn't you?

  82. Danielle says:

    @SBM handle your buisness it’s nothing wrong with a man that is willing to put in a little housework. I’m with Nicki I want to see before/after pics

  83. Mr. FAQs says:

    @ Jac: hahaha, I mean yea, brillo pads and ajax might cause bleeding

  84. "@CPT & Nicki: How many days has this flirting been going on for? Didn’t Slim already call ya’ll out?! Ya need me to set up the email address exchange?"

    LOL. Yaw that was Jac.

    I'm usually pretty slick with my flirt speak.

    @CPT: Ew.. You are a lighty????? We're practically family!

  85. "@Nicki: In hindsight … not sure if your ready for CPT. He might say “Lets make cookies *wink*” … and then next thing you know your out buying dough and chocolate chips."

    SBM you are bananas! I'm just having a little fun; I'm harmless. :)

  86. Q: where did that misc avatar come from and how do I CHANGE IT?

  87. CPT Callamity says:

    @SBM

    Actually…Jac started flirting with me first. Bad Jac.

    I am not guilty of flirting (tee hee).
    Besides, Nick would disqualify me once she realizes I’m a few octaves away from her complexion.

  88. Not that being untidy is a deal breaker, but it definitely says alot about a man who keeps a clean house. I am super clean and organized, so I would prefer if my mate is the same, as it would circumvent alot of bullshit ass arguments.

    "pick up your shoes!!"

    "why you always leaving your dirty drawls on the bathroom floor?!?!"

    "now you know you could have cleaned that juice up off the counter!"

    "damn, you not gonna wash your hands after you finish taking out the trash?"

    If you can't clean it, get a maid and make it apart of your living expenses.

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