I’ve been blogging/internet writing for about 6-7 years. When you share your thoughts with the public, you subject yourself to both praise or scrutiny. You honestly need a thick skin to do what we do. Most of the good bloggers that I know have no issue with adverse opinions and challenges to your main idea. After all, how can healthy dialogue be achieved if everyone cosigns your blog? However, as the old saying goes: Opinions are like @ssholes. Everybody’s got one. Unfortunately, both on these blogs and in real life, I encounter too many sphincter-esque individuals that piss me off. I know y’all will feel me on your dislike for individuals like the following:
People who argue for arguments sake
These are the people who have a different opinion, just for kicks. If everyone is in agreement over a topic, they will argue the opposite because they don’t like all the praise a comment or topic receive. They will treat blogs and life like moot court, arguing to see if they can win an argument. I’ve dated women like this and needless to say those relationships were short lived.
Chair Throwers
I read a lot of comments that attack or criticize bloggers. If it’s constructive, I really don’t care. Some people however, will use certain language or phrases…just say crazy sh*t to turn the conversation left. For example: Have you ever conversed with someone and they just drop a random insult, because they can’t articulate their points well enough? They have to revert to neolithic methods of communication to be relevant. I saw this most recently on Slim’s two part post on raising a gay/bi/transgender child. One commenter, Gigi I think her name is (#ebonics), referred to Slim as a Bigot. Slim. Jackson. I stand by my claim that if Slim is a bigot, then I perm my hair (shut up Andressa, Max, and anyone else) He clearly stated that these were his thoughts, as he was working them out throughout the blog and he’s a bigot? Seriously, do some of you read these blogs or do you skim through it? To disagree with someone is normal. To insult for the sake of effect is cowardice. Period.
Name Dropping to make invalid points/Opinion without fact
You ever been in a conversation with someone, and they mention a random known person, place, or thing, in order to validate a point? HATE that. Especially saw this last week when a blogger called out our blog by name when saying that the “New Black Blogosphere was lame and annoying”. She had some great points about the staleness of blogging in general, but I felt that her lumping certain blogs in there was unwarranted. You can check the post to see our comments, but let me say this: Anything I criticize or dislike I know about. I don’t blindly hate, with the exception of Paul Pierce and Duke so it pisses me off when others do the same, or lump me into a category due to circumstance. In the same breath, you know how I feel about criticism without ownership, subliminal disses, or more commercially known as “@ em or Dap em”. If you are brash enough to comment, roast, diss, insult, or criticize individuals, do it to their faces. P.S. – blogging opens you up to scrutiny, even when you scrutinize others, so don’t be surprised when you critique a blogger and they hear about it. They gon finnnnnnnnd you – Antoine Dodson
Mad for no reason
I don’t know how people can be mad all the time. Angry when they wake up, angry when they go to sleep. They will complain and b*tch and moan about any and everything with any forum they have at their disposal. These people include: The ugly friend you ladies KNOW you have that hates on you and your team when dudes try to holla, the dude who you would never bring around people because they’re a buzzkill to any festive occasion, and women on their period….I’m just jokin y’all don’t roast me…please? In blogging, ThEy USALLy TypE LIKE thIS to GT our ATTENTION and MISPEL WoRDS in the PRoCEsss………. They do provide comedy relief on the internet though, even if they type like a 14 yr old teenage girl with a sidekick.
Holier than thou individuals
For years I’ve cursed out and complained about the Church of Twitter and Blogger Day Saints. The people who all of a sudden use blogs and comments to define the moral character of others. These are the type of people to diss people as whores, deadbeats, etc, when I just want to scream “I know you/know people who know you in real life!! You’re throwing STONES now!!” This happens a lot in college at programs on campus and round table discussions in the cafeteria. It just tickles my soul to see people act on that “do as I say, not as I do mentality”, without acknowledging their own transgressions, or better yet, acting like they are above it all. Too bad that this is a prevalent fact in real life and in blog commentary.
In closing, bloggers appreciate the support and commentary. However, once you cross a line of respect, don’t be surprised if you get met with equal or greater amounts of venom. I told people repeatedly that I was ethering commenters before I was on this site, and I will continue to do so when its appropriate. Negative people bring out the worst of us, but it’s also a double edged sword because controversy sells, drives traffic, and comments.
I’ve always disliked argumentative, judgemental, and subliminal individuals who make random and brash comments or try to [insert adjective other than hate] on me or my friends/fellow writers. Some bloggers may not address it, but I will, because I have pride. I’m unaffected by e-words, but I won’t let anyone throw shade on this blog, Streetztalk, or on their own at me or the staff. Say what you will but be ready for a rebuttal!
Bloggers – how do you handle adverse commentary like the example above? Do you actually crave this type of negativity? why or why not?
Readers – What do you feel are the boundaries, if any, for online commentary?
In general – How do you handle negativity? What’s one way someone has pissed you off? Does Wayne Brady have to…choke a bish?!
No country for Internet Thuggin’
The views expressed in this blog post are solely those of Carlito “Streetz” Calles, and are not necessarily those of singleblackmale.org, the writers, or affiliates.
As a reader, I feel that in general, good manners and diplomacy should be used when making online comments Besides, good manners and diplomacy are nice to exhibit in life and in face-to-face interactions, so why not also in e-ineractions! Happy Wednesday
Hmm…not as bad as I thought it would be.
The main idea of that entire post : "Or maybe I'm just trying to transplant my feelings about the old school blogs to these new school ones."
And the summary statement of what I learned from the entire debacle : "now I KNOW to not expect or project these expectations on venues where I guess…”MY purpose” may not be suited."
Facts : Your blogs are very popular and large venues (cept maybe UIGM's personal blog), your posts are mostly relationship based though VSB is breaking away from this more
Opinion : I prefer to read smaller/cornucopia blogs by people I've known for years, and I can't really relate to relationship advice/observation based blogs as I like and date atypical dudes
Apologies for not clarifying. Not used to strangers on my blog like that.
Thanks for being civil.
PS I was soooo ready to respond if you went wayward with this. LOL
*puts it in my pocket ; )
Your AVI is giving me life right now!!!!!!
"Bloggers – how do you handle adverse commentary like the example above? Do you actually crave this type of negativity? why or why not?"
I'll be honest, at first I wrote a comment that was so d*mn long it deserved a blog in and of itself. lol But then I deleted all that ish and realized it can be summed up in the following quote:
"They should have never gave black people the Internet."
I kid but seriously, I let the majority of the BS on-line roll off my skin. Really all you can do out here. I show love to those who show me love and ignore those who show me hate unless they blatantly call me out my name. Then…
As a side note, I really think people who don't write (especially on-line) are fairly detached from the behind the scenes drama – internal and external, which is why I dont usually speak on it. This is a good post tho, interested to see the feedback.
Umm, where to start?
I've had my blog for about 6 months, so I'm nowhere near where I wanna be. (traffic-wise) The negative comments haven't come yet, but I figure they will (maybe, perhaps). Even the times when someone has disagreed, I take it in and examine it. I think the biggest thing is that both sides are understood.
No I don't crave negativity.I ain't got that kinda time and energy to devote to getting it out of my lifespace.
I feel that the boundaries are a bit blurry.. I can see it from both sides. THere are times when I'll go on a blog and see something and say, "why don't they block that chick?" but then again, once you start commenting witht he fear of being blocked, that would just breed a nation of co-signers and no honest debate/commentary gets through. But on the other side, I look at it like, "don't come up in my house and disrespect." that's just plain rude, and if we took away everyone's keyboards and asked that you say that ish to my face, a lot of ignorance would go silent. everyone's bolder with a keyboard.
I get annoyed at all the examples you outlined, ESPECIALLY the one that's argumentative just for sh*ts and giggles. Maybe I just have to learn to be more patient, because it does get difficult for me to wade through the sludge sometimes, thus resulting in my logging off and not commenting.
It's the price of this blogging thing.
I'm sure I got more to say, but I've said enough..
I do appreciate you handling this all classy-like.. I could see the smoke coming out of people's ears over the weekend..
P.S. you had me at neolithic…
I don't like streetz & i hate every single one of his blog posts…just kidding, Streetz knows i love him cause i always greet him with a smile & love taps (What can i say, Caribbean people are aggressive, lol j/k, kinda)! lol
Readers – What do you feel are the boundaries, if any, for online commentary?
^^^I think you are entitled to your opinion but there is a way of stating it without demeaning the people writing or reading. If you are constantly speaking negatively about a person, there will come a time where they will either strike back or block you. Writers are human beings too so offer constructive criticism or keep your thoughts to yourself.
In general – How do you handle negativity?
^^^I try to keep it moving but if i can't, i try to go about it in a dignified way (Words of Affirmation is my primary love language after all!)
What’s one way someone has pissed you off?
^^^When i constantly have to repeat myself…another is when people make assumptions about the point i'm trying to make, just ask me and i will clarify (different from having to continuously repeat myself).
Does Wayne Brady have to…choke a bish?!
^^^Actually, yea, so send him over cause i got a few he needs to slap!
Good post streetz *daps* lol
I think that assessment by the blogger you linked was accurate but misplaced. IMO it seems that she wants to show that the blogs she enjoys are more "living diaries" whereas the ones she listed including this one are more topic and current event driven (accurate). Stating what she did without distinguishing the difference between the two is misplaced. Comparing a Caterpillar bulldozer to a Porsche Cayenne doesn't do either vehicle justice yet they are both petroleum driven machines and are considered the best of class in their respective fields.
I agree with you. her commentary wasn't that insulting. and was pretty accurate (to me)–as someone who happens to read both types of blogs. but it is what it is. I think people tend to see their names or their "brand" and get defensive, when really its not that serious.
People or me? lol…
Like I said I think the critique was misplaced, and it's in my right to disagree.
Either way if you say something bout me or my team imma speak on it
you weren't the only one…
"Comparing a Caterpillar bulldozer to a Porsche Cayenne doesn’t do either vehicle justice yet they are both petroleum driven machines and are considered the best of class in their respective fields."
I agree with this…
Now that I have read the 'I Quit You..' post I have an opinion.
I happen to really like this blog and maybe you have talked about some of the topics before but for me its the first time. I love it!
I think the only problem with her post was the negativity. One should be able to state why they like something better without tearing down the other. But then she does say
"Or maybe I'm just trying to transplant my feelings about the old school blogs to these new school ones."
It's all a matter of opinion. I wouldnt say the the type of blogs she prefers are bad just because I prefer those similar to this one. I just understand for me the best part of this blog is the dialogue it provokes.
C'mon! How many times have you and your friends had the same conversation?
I respond to negative people by generally ignoring them. If I read a blog where the writer, or one of the writers says ish I don't like to hear, I stop reading. If a twitter follower constantly complains and never has anything positive to say, I unfollow. For my real life friends, I tell them to cut that sh*t out because I don't want to hear it.
For readers and bloggers, mutual respect for each others opinions should be the norm. However, both readers and bloggers cross the line of inappropriateness, negativity, judgment, and disrespect. You treat people how you want to be treated, this goes for e-life and real life.
Readers have to learn to critique a blog without attacking the individual person, and bloggers have to learn how to take critiques without thinking everything is a personal attack. Constructive criticism will help you grow as a person, grow as a writer, and thus, will enhance the overall quality of your blog. Unfortunately, not all readers are constructive with their criticism, and the anonymity of the internet has created a whole host of e-thugs who hate everything and criticize everything. Just read the comments on an article about the POTUS, people are very brave behind computer screens.
Nice post, Streetz! I thought you would come harder than this…
pause
you're so silly… lol.
"Readers – What do you feel are the boundaries, if any, for online commentary?"
Its the internet… No one can see me…. or know who I am
I think for some people this blogging world is a place where they can be a total a** without any repercussion.
I have only recently started reading these blogs. I was use to reading yahoo 'news'. That is a prime example of "e-negativity". I truly believe all racist live on yahoo.
Clearly you haven't visited YouTube, it's Birmingham 1860 up in there! And sports blogs…talk about a group of people that shouldn't have been given the innanets! I'm looking at you Tea
baggersPartiers.Yes! I have seen youtube racism also… I hate when there's a child involved.
So sad…
parents need to keep their children off the e-streets though, not that it makes it ok to attack them. But c'mon son…let's do some Parenting today…C'mon! Sometimes it just a child doing a cute dance or something.
And sometimes they are putting babies on poles, that's what I was referring to. People are cruel and stupid for sure, what could you possibly have negative to say about a baby doing her recital dance? *smh*
OMG, if you're on FB, check out Relationship Playbook today, pure foolery! LOL
@Starita there was a youtube video we watched in class where a child with Autism was having a tantrum & the father was like antagonizing the child as he was recording…that's not cool in the e-streets either…
Not at all…the false sense of security that people gain from being behind a computer screen is amazing.
Q1 – Why would you abuse you child?
Q2 – Why would you video tape said abuse?
Q3 – Why would you broadcast said episode on the World. Wide. Web.?
Color me confuddled.
I'll admit that you my dear Streetz will sometimes have me reaching for my cut lash but you always keep it 100 so I respect that, lol so half of the time I'll just read and smh in silence..but then again I'm like that in real life.
Readers – What do you feel are the boundaries, if any, for online commentary?
**My thing is don't throw rocks and hide your hand when someone confronts you with respectfully your lie. All this back and forth ugly drama and nonsense to someone virtually unknown to you makes little sense to me. It's one thing to have a healthy debate with differing and diametrically opposed opinions and totally another to just be talking out your ass for sake of argument…stop it
In general – How do you handle negativity?
**With raised eyebrows and silence…I'm not feeding into your idiocy.
What’s one way someone has pissed you off?
** Disagreeing vehemently with PERSONAL opinion…like really? Go somewhere with alladat. We can discuss each other points but don't tell me my experience is wrong because you haven't experienced it in the exact same way.
Does Wayne Brady have to…choke a bish?!
**He might!
I am really irked by people who are contrary just for the sake of being contrary. I have seen this occur in my 10+ years on these internets and its just eye roll worthy all around.
name throwing–opinion without fact? since when do you need facts to state opinions? I understand knowing background and doing research (I am very research oriented) but just because you disagree with something doesn't mean this wasn't done. I can't cosign the "at em or dap em" method either. I'm all for direct confrontation, but on an internet venue it just ends up looking like a spectacle and pandering for "keep it real" cool points. thats just how I feel about it. people are entitled to their opinions and can write them (on their own sh*t) I've read a few other blogs calling out others either by name or alluding to but I guess because I didn't share em, they didn't get any hate mail. #justsayin. to me all that is just instigating anyway…
mad for no reason and holier than though folks are in the same group online as in person–I just isolate my exposure to them. I've muted many people or just unfollowed on Twitter for annoying me. why would I allow you in my mental space if you are constantly spewing negativity. and I roll with some Holy rollers–make no mistake, but if you are using your sanctified ways to put down others–thats not Christ like either.
as a blogger I don't have these issues because I write about music, its a hobby and nothing more–not something I live and breathe thats on a schedule and its fun to me. when it stops being fun, I'll probably stop doing it. I have a day job and enough other ish to worry about.
as a reader of many other sites I appreciate all the varied views, but when I feel my blood pressure rising or my eyes rolling a little bit too much–I take a break from that venue. sometimes temporarily sometimes for good. people are people, thats not gonna change because its on a blog. I can only control me.
"and I roll with some Holy rollers–make no mistake, but if you are using your sanctified ways to put down others–thats not Christ like either."
THIS!!!!!!!!
yep i had to co-sign that line too
This may be my downfall as a writer, but I don't take negative comments in stride. It doesn't roll off my back and I don't take it as evidence that my opinion matters. People disagreeing with me is one thing, I can handle that. But people calling me a basic, regular chick with no qualities that are of any value hurts my feelings, not to get all emo about it.
I will never understand this compulsion some people have to unleash their negativity on blogs. I think it's stupid. I read stuff every day that I don't like and 9 times out of 10 I will either just stop reading it or I'll shake my head and keep it moving. I have a job and a life and don't see writing rude comments that attack the writer more than the post itself as a productive use of my time.
That said, had I read the "I Quit You" post at the time instead of days later, I would have left a comment because I found it insulting and unnecessary. I'm not denying the author's right to prefer certain blogs over others; but to dismiss the blogs you don't like as "lame", "less-than", and "self-important" is going too far in my opinion.
I think that readers often don't realize what it takes to run a big blog. My blog is nowhere near the level of the SBM's and VSB's of the world and still it consumes a huge amount of my free time. People are getting free, thought-provoking entertainment on a daily basis and then have the nerve to come on and be insulting or dismissive in the comments? Get.the.fluck.outta here.
I'm not a fan. The negative comments, I scroll right over it while rolling my eyes thinking, yet another hater.. Some people shouldn't be entitled to an opinion.
And it's not even about "If you don't have something nice to say, don't say it at all." Just shush period. If you don't have something smart to say, keep your lips pressed. Because a lot of Negative Nancy's sound stupid once they start arguing to argue, throwing chairs, name dropping.
Shout out to the mad for no reason chicks and d*cks. They wake up on the wrong side of the bed and now it's your fault. You gotta deal with their shullbit (thank u NickNotNikki) now. Go that way
Oh sh*t I loveeee the holier than thou people. They're the Christian girls who think "transgenders are a mistake from God and an insult b/c God doesn't make mistakes" BUT they'll go kissing girls and say it's okay. You hypocrites. They're so quick to slap you in the face with a bible scripture about how wrong you are and how the church hates you for what you do but the individual would be the one that lost their virginity in December. It's now April and you have 6 bodies and you want to be a born again Christian, shun and look down up on people who have s*x? #stopitfiftyfive I rest my case.
Great Post btw.
Happy Birthday Shubbz.
Back to hiding.
thanks for the bday wishes suki *runs b4 streetz comes at her for not commenting first on the post*
as a blogger (personal) and a reader/commenter i can see both sides. after reading the post that you linked i really don't see anything that bad with what she wrote. she went awry when she started calling names just to be calling names. also i don't think she really did any background work. especially with jozen's blog.
on my blog i really haven't had any negative like the type you've described except for a few jaded people that actually know me outside of the blog world. when i do get comments like that i try not to let it bother me but i think i would receive negative comments better from people that i actually don't know.
as a reader i try not to attack a writer's integrity or personality. if i disagree with a certain subject i keep my comments geared towards that subject and that subject alone. no one likes to feel like they're being attacked so i wouldn't do that.
in general i don't harp on negativity from others. i have enough ish going on in my life to deal with crap from others. i'll ignore you in heartbeat or remove you from my existence.
everyone calls honesty "negativity" so they wont have to face the truth. the bottom line is stop ignoring comments that arent automatic co signs to what youre saying and you might learn something about yourself.
negativity is insulting an opinion that differs from the mainstream. honesty is telling the mainstream whats wrong with the common opinion or belief.
i think i'm intelligent enough to understand the difference between negativity and truth. thanks though.
oh ok. lets put it to the test. out of these four statements which one is honest?
single black MEN learn about themselves when they do work and not laze around on the internet.
its a lot of fun to talk about sex and alcohol on blogsites so black people dont need to work.
its productive to be married and still associate with single black guys talking about sex and alcohol on a computer.
im a troll
I'ma have to go with #4 Alex.
lmao. you guys are sad. altering comments because you dont have the sense or humility to understand their words. disgraceful.
if your comment was altered then i didn't see the original. *shrug*
I think blogs like this one are a great help to many people.
I remember when this particular blog could get 500 comments a day. Not because they had ANYTHING to do w/ the post but because people were mad, trying to prove points, and for like two people unhappy w/ this thing called life.
In the majority of those instances, you would have to ignore it. That's been my mode both as blogger & commenter… Hell that's even my mode at work… Speaking of… Let me get back to that.
Great post! Keep it up
no. blogs are something to do at work because youre bored and your life sucks. so you converse with other people who have no purpose in life.
You seem angry. You seem mean and surly. Is this the case?
you mean it doesnt make you angry to see fellow black people with no purpose in life?
i am compassionate. i am caring. i am straight forward.
If i thought someone had no purpose in life, I would ask questions to gain information that allowed me to make a reasonable and logical conclusion. I'm not sure if you did.
I'd like to know how you came to that conclusion that anyone commenting had no purpose in life.
Sidebar: "No purpose in life" is such an empty statement. What happens if my purpose is to post on this blog? Is that sufficient?
a thinker!
i reached the conclusion by skimming the website. majority of these people complain about failed relationships or talk about relationships based solely on sex, clubbing, or drugs. they work in office buildings and have time to talk about meaningless stuff. what is the purpose in that? what contribution does that make to any greater good? and i dont mean "lets all get together and be shallow" greater good, i mean making life more valuable to one another greater good.
and hey…if you consider that your purpose in life than thats on you. personally, i have a healthy self esteem. i know i can do better, i have done better, so i teach. but apparently it isnt wise to argue with fools so maybe more people should do what youre doing and have an open mind.
unless of course youre just asking questions to draw out my opinion so you can insult me after i express it instead of telling me what you learned.
Please refer to the #1 Rule of Bloggintonville. I think it may improve your blood pressure and overall life.
So you basically dont like anyone who has the potential to make a legitimate point about you and your opinions being lame because you only express them on an internet blog.
or to put it another way…
you dont like anyone who knows enough about life to make you look silly because theyve done more than sit in an office building and blog when you should be filing my insurance information.
or to put it another way…
youre stupid and better sense if offensive.
Who sh*t in your grits?
Rightttt?
your lackluster attempt at humor.
Why are you here? You clearly don't like the site. Have you run out of insurance information to file?
Yes! Of course there would have to be someone to comment on this post to exemplify the points discussed above. LOL
theres always a cosigner ready to f*ck up a good point. so what my life sucks. i have nothing better to do but make a bunch of rude comments because my self-esteem is at an all time low. Can I live? Sh*t…
LMAO! Is that you Streetz?? Just driving your point home? We get it, we get it! lol
and of course you have to avoid the substance of the issue someone honest arises by deflecting the attention away from it with humor. or you could really show how incompetent you are and fail at being witty, fail at getting the point, fail at understanding a new perspective, and fail at humbling yourself.
but you HAVE successfully made yourself look like a jackass. theres always a silver lining. and the silver lining today is that i suck at life.
"youre stupid and better sense if offensive."
Or to put it another way you can't speak proper english and exemplify my #youmad point of my article.
You're attempt to throw a chair is lackluster and corny.
However, we're not about censorship here, you have the right to say whaever, we won't block cats, unless you violate certain terms/services or wordpress.
Finally, a wise man told me don't argue with fools… so gooday sir…
I SAID GOOD DAY!
so you think a typo is more indicative of self esteem than sabotaging a comment that makes you feel stupid?
im sure that bean bag youre sitting on did massive damage to the bullet proof glass that is the point im making about something that doesn't matter at the end of the day.
youre also a liar. youre not about censorhsip yet my comments are being toyed with to take the sting of truth out of them. i do believe thats a violation of my constitutional rights. so this site takes part in illegal practices?
jeez. forget the laws of the government. i wonder what God thinks about you stifling the truth after he gave me the right to speak it.
i think you should post your [real] pic and a link to your blog/twitter/fb so we can converse some more.
i dont do twitter or facebook. i dont blog but i do like to draw people out of their comfort zones. if you want to talk to me give me your email address.
This is hilarious. Please continue.
Oh, and welcome and sh*t.
I really don't read a lot of blogs. I read this blog…this place is like a little family to me. I enjoy it here. I try to be honest with my opinions. I remember being attacked one day and basically being called an unfit mother by some internet troll and I just walked away because I am not about to start to argue with someone I don't know over my parenting skills.
Did it bother me? A little bit yes, because I'm human and I can understand why today's blog was written, because when you put a great deal of time and effort to produce a quality product and someone says it's a crappy product because it doesn't fit within their parameters, it's gotta hurt. Let's face it, writers are artists as well and writing is their craft.
I can't get into the whole Twitter thing (Twitter actually frightens me) I can't put my finger on it but I never really liked going to clubs either and I liken Twitter to walking around a club and hearing snippets of other people's conversations….
This blog opened a whole new level for me because it showed me the many layers and behind the scenes things that go on. Too much for me, but I am still here commenting on this particular blog.
"Let’s face it, writers are artists as well and writing is their craft."
Slim likes this **little thumbs up appears**
"this place is like a little family to me."
Yep, I feel the same.
We are E-family……awwwww group hug everyone.
As commentators we have to first off respect what the author/blogger is writing. We have to remember that this is their opinions/views/stories/theories on whatever the subject is. Obviously if you're reading their site on a constant there is some kind of similarity in the thought process. We can share our opinions and thoughts but we have to remember that we all have different views on everything and very seldom will we all agree.
Negativity… I really just brush it off like the dust that it is… ways that someone piss me off is when they choose to ahead and believe a rumor or not check the facts, specially if they're about me. Like go to the source not to the drain… be man/woman enough to confront or ask, don't go about making faces or shooting subliminals
Good post Mr. Dash
I read several blogs and I think it would be a disservice if I didn't give my true opinion when responding to something that bothers me. I won't keep my mouth shut ( fingers from typing) because I feel I may offend someone because that is never my intention. Just last week I went a tad bit hard on Pino44 ( I think his name was) on his SBM guest post: "The Best Way to Find the Woman of Your Dreams". It wasn't because I was being judgmental because I love and enjoy sex like the next person but because it truly bothered me. I gave him many points on why I felt that way and I even took the time to visit his personal blog later on; and I left him some positive comments there. I was not personally attacking him and I think Pino understood that.
With that being said I will not go against the grain just for argument sake however I will speak up if I think my opinion is valid/important. I appreciate all the hard work that goes into all blogs I read. every.single.one.of.them.
GO LAKERS!!!! #tangent
"youre stupid and better sense if offensive." – What does this mean? Can someone please explain it? Thanks
* youre stupid and better sense is offensive.
if you believe life is great when youre degrading your value youre stupid. someone telling you that because theyve made life valuable would be offensive.
in reality (and reaching a conclusion through logic) if you tell someone how to make themselves and the way they live more valuable you arent offensive youre inspirational.
I've never experienced negativity on my blog. My blog is about music…if someone disagrees w/ my opinion on a song, they state…I'll comment…and we keep it moving. Everything is lighthearted and fun.
As a reader and in reference to commenting…there have been a couple of times where I'm like "okay, I'm not engaging in this convo today" when I feel like things are going or can go left really quick. There's also been times when I wasn't "feeling" a particular post…and I just don't comment at all. I'm not about to go "in" on someone for writing what was on their mind.
Something that will piss me off is not listening or reading. I can't stand it! Sometimes I can tell when commenters just skim through the blogs…just to hurry up and make their point. Or when people read your comment, but are so stuck on what they have to say…that they attack your point or miss it completely.
In general people who don't listen or read well (comprehension and reading aloud,lol) piss me off
There is a different between disagreeing and negative comments.
Disagreeing = I disagree, here's why.
Negative = You're an idiot.
pretty much….
Well let me say first as a self labeled "realist" I always hate when people accuse other people of being negative. I mean some people will feed you a sh@t sandwhich and tell you "It's not so bad. Look on the bright side. Jesus gone work it out." I'm sorry, if you try to feed me a shit sandwhich I will call it like I see it. I don't think eating a sh@t sandwhich is a test of my faith in Jesus.
But anyway. My feeling is some people just shouldn't be running blogs. I never type in caps but this needs to be said. YOU'RE ON THE INTERNET. It's open to every entity, human and alien, in the entire universe. If negative people, trolls, self-rightous, racist people piss you off. DON'T WRITE A BLOG and invite people to comment.
Now trolls are the only thing that I don't like about blogs but trolls are really a very very small percentage of commenters. In fact most bloggers that ban people for trolling are just mad cause the person said something they didn't like so they labled them a troll.
I recently went back to a discussion board that I used to be on a lot and me and a lot of the people that used to frequent that site were laughing about how sensitive the rest of the blogoshpere was. We laughed about how quick we had gotten banned from some sites. (If you haven't figured it out already, people from DC have a unique humor that often seems mean if you're not accustomed to it.)
Oh well bottom line is, some blog writers are wack beyond all recognition and shouldn't be writing. Too many trying to work out issues they should be working out with a psychologist. Some are actually listed in the SMB blog roll but I won't call them out.
But SBM writers seem to have thick skin and healthy self esteem which should be a requirement in my opinion.
OK my shots fired at wack blogs gun is empty…..
@ em or dap em
‘Too many trying to work out issues they should be working out with a psychologist…’
U know I read this and it kinda irked me…
I started up a personal blog…and sometimes u just what to lay it out…writing forces me to think things thru…thus see things clearer…it’s my choice to put it out there. I knew I’d be opening myself up to be scrutinised… but it’s also the readers choice to let me be if they cant relate. Hate for the sake of it is wack. luckily to date I’ve never had a problem @ mine with those commenting tho
I did a post once when I was numb to the core cos we’d just found out my aunt had cancer and of all the well wishes I got, only one simple comment from a blogger helped me emotionally…like seriously helped… it would have been worth a hundred stupid comments just to read that particular one.
That said I never used to allow anonymous folks on my blog. if you're man enough to say it then use your handle… so I know who to thank or curse out!
Let me clarify. Writing can be very theraputic and there is nothing wrong with people working things out through a blog. But I've seen people that start blogs and intend for them to be a monologue instead of a dialogue. They don't want discussion….they want agreement. They want to vent and never be challenged. Judge and never be appealed to.
Those are the people I think would be better served in therapy.
But if you are willing to talk things through and accepte other peoples opinions from time to time……I don't have a problem with that.
valid points. but some people really do need therapy. like the comment below–if you want it to be a monologue instead of a dialogue, get a journal (I actually tweet this often. I understand some people dont' like to put paper to pen anymore, but I happen to find it very therapeutic, moving on…) or have a closed/private blog. but having an public blog doesnt' give mean people should hate for the sake of hating, you are absolutely right there.
not saying this is the case with you, but on twitter and facebook especially there are a lot of cries for help, and attention whoring through the "woe is me." I am the type to ignore rather than be hateful, but that's because of who I am as a person, that doesn't change because I am online. but Lord forbid you suggest someone get professional help, you are being insulting. some people could seriously benefit. or they could be putting on to get attention and don't have any problems at all.
Trust…I've seen it all before. I used to be on a very popular discussion board and there were a couple of girls that would swear they were about to commit suicide every other week. Reminds me of that episode of Seinfield.
Also remember this dude that used to tell the wildest stories all the time until everyone figured out he was a liar.
I just think bloggers need to understand that this stuff comes with the territory.
i agree with most of that. it would be more productive if everytime a comment was made a blogger didnt like they tried to understand the new perspective instead of 50 people jumping on the "you aint got no sense" bandwagon. personally, i take advice from my enemies because theyre honest.
bloggers are shallow thinkers though and it truly is easy to offend them. on the one hand its funny but on the other hand its sad. they will only learn if they look beyond the insult and can see the truth. anything different isnt a healthy self esteem its being stubborn, judgemental, and close minded.
"they will only learn if they look beyond the insult and can see the truth. anything different isnt a healthy self esteem its being stubborn, judgemental, and close minded."
But why do you have to start out with an insult to get someone's attention? Did you ever stop to think that when you insult people, they automatically become stubborn and judgemental in their own defense?
You can make points without attacking, you can change your words to have a productive dialog that isn't offensive and still get your point across.
look carefully at the conversations that started AFTER i insulted the author and a couple of readers. how did the topics change in regards to perspective?
people with healthy self esteems are good listeners and arent normally defensive. instead of attacking they think deeply about what what was said to them.
*sigh* Someone pissed in his/her coffee.
Was that directed at me? Are you a wack blog author?
You would think that. I just read your comment and said my piece right under it. Think what you want. Smfh at your life has the pissed in coffee. Thank you.
#974957……bloggers that lack the heart to fire shots directly and constantly end back handed comments with "Thank You" or "Sorry you feel that way."
**Amerie in background. "Heard it all before……." LOL**
LOL. I can't. You right. Sometimes, just not worth it.
Readers – What do you feel are the boundaries, if any, for online commentary?
****There are no boundaries online. Therefore, you deal the best way you know how.
In general – How do you handle negativity?
***It depends. Some people consider someone not agreeing with them as negative. I do not care if someone doesn't agree with me, just listen to my POV and respect that it is different. However, if someone is just being plain ole' rude…I excuse myself. We can just agree to disagree.
When someone is just rude, if I can get a word in, I try to find out what's really wrong, because 9 out 10….it has nothing to do with me. These people do not even know me, so why given them any power.
i dont have to deal with negativity until i vocalize my opinion because people are often too intimidated to approach me. i just shoot it down with reason, logic, but most of all i supply wisdom. you have to tear down the broken house before you can rebuild, you know?
my idea of tearing things down is public speaking at random. like standing on platforms and tabletops and venting ideas about how the world needs to be changed using traditional, christian values. the negativity i get is often violent so i learned how to argue and i learned how to fight. thats how i deal with it.
im a really straight forward person too. i believe being honest is the most civilized form of communication because there arent any smoke and mirrors of 'i like you' 'let me protect your feelings' 'let me try really hard not to be offensive because im afraid of conflict'. please. i dont have time for that.
i dont like you but i care about you. i dont care about your feelings but i care about your future. im not afraid to deal with your anger so heres a mouthful of truth.
Question for the guy who is shaking his head,
If everyone on here has no purpose, then what is yours?
for some reason i assumed it was a woman. i would hate to think a dude had so many b*tch made tendencies.
I feel like it's a guy for some strange reason. Just like duce of MD. Some guys have seissup* too.
*read backwards for censorship/moderation purposes lol
**In Yoda Voice**
To fire your shots more directly, you have learned my young padawan.
ROFL
What's your life about right now? Quit.
I think they are both males also.
It's definitely a man, and he is acting like a man. Don't equate the greatness of vagina with his lunacy.
Hah! I automatically thought it was a man with those 'male' like tendencies.
my purpose in life or my purpose on this blog?
I am curious to know what was your purpose on this blog today? What is it that you want everyone to take away from what you have said?
**Dont make it tooooo long! lol!
"**Dont make it tooooo long! lol!"
#twss
what's funny is that Tunde's avatar is prolly the exact expression he'd have on his face after saying #twss lol.
oh yes. you can read pages upon pages of a blog about sex but God forbid you have to read a paragraph that expresses wisdom and understanding. youre sad.
if you want to be happy ask again with humility and respect. leave the attitude for someone inferior to your immaturity.
slim: yep. that is the expression that i have. lol
dude get the f*ck outta here seriously. i can speak and comment on what i want to. you worry about you.
I’m surprised you didn’t mention the proofreading spelling and grammar Naz!s. The people who give just can’t let a your slide when you mean you’re, or than when you mean then. I only mention that because I’m surprised no one said you mean verb instead of adjective when you said I’ve always disliked argumentative, judgemental, and subliminal individuals who make random and brash comments or try to [insert adjective other than hate] on me or my friends/fellow writers. Hmm, I guess I just indirectly became a grammar Naz! by writing that.
Readers – What do you feel are the boundaries, if any, for online commentary?
I have two boundaries.
1. Attack ideas, not people. I might be a bit brusque with my criticism at times, but it is always about an idea. Never the person, unless they violate boundary number 2.
2. Respect people, unless they disrespect you or are blatantly disrespectful to other commenters. I typically let people fight their own battles, but if it’s someone disrespectful to a regular that I know will take the high road, I have no problem jumping in. Redlady’s comment about the person who called her a bad mother who also threw bombs at several regulars here is one example. I’m in no way an administrator, or even a writer at this blog, but I refuse to let that type of trollish behavior happen here.
Remember Dave Chappelle's sketch…."What if the internet was a real place." Well if the internet was a real place it would be a ufked neighborhood on the wrong side of town where everybody comes to buy drugs.
It just boggles my mind that people would expect, on a completley annonomous medium like the internet, that people expect civility, good manners, good natured people etc. etc. all the time. It's just not gonna happen. The rules of the game, if you actually want traffic, is that people get to say what they want, how they want.
I feel like you can always use logic to expose people but some bloggers just are capable. If your trolls have better writing skills and reasoning skills then you……you are in trouble……and probably shouldn't be blogging. (Again, not talking about SBM)
"If your trolls have better writing skills and reasoning skills then you……you are in trouble……and probably shouldn’t be blogging. (Again, not talking about SBM)"
I think worse is if the troll has better writing and reasoning skills, and the blogger ignores/blocks them instead of either responding to the substance or considering they might be wrong or misguided. A sign of intellectual integrity is admitting you may be wrong about something.
I'm glad that doesn't happen here. Echo chambers benefit no one.
They need a certification board for bloggers. LOL Some standards or something.
i agree with that. the world would be a much better place if two opposing viewpoints could find a common ground and build from there. its just the majority of people who blog are completely mainstreamed. they fall into a way of life orchestrated by corporations and banks and politicians so they have nothing important to say.
people on the lower spectrum of life make better conversation. they have wisdom. they know things about life that can truly help others and get the world moving on to a better place. it would be nice if the mainstream were more willing to listen to such people.
Thank you for that comment Hugh, it was appreciated!
That's because I knew you had too much class to stoop to that level. I, on the other hand, have no problem with it.
Might I suggest a new avi?
http://supermanfanart.com/artists/sebastian/image…
I prefer this one:
http://www.bigshinyrobot.com/reviews/wp-content/u…
In the words of the Joker on Justice League:
(Batman arrives): Here's one of our guests right now! Dressed in black, always chic!
(Superman and Flash arrive): But here comes the fashion disasters. I'm surprised their mommies let them out of the house looking like that.
Mmm, much better…
Hugh
Eff yo couch nikka!
Seriously is that suppose to be verb? I thought I meant a descriptive word? Oh Well.. u got me hahaha!
Gramar Nazis are cool… I just hate it when they don't have a comment other than "your grammar sucks"
"Eff yo couch nikka!"
LOL! Don't make me send you outta here crawling on your elbows because my brother and I stomped on your legs!
The internet is a hell of a mask.
not really. its fairly easy to see what the internet is most commonly used for.
a way for "intelligent" people to express they have no common sense or real life experience. there is no mask. thats your real face…sorry to say.
the only people who would survive in a world without the internet are the people you make fun of on blogs and social netowrking sites. those people are often called "trolls". theyre called that because they dont bother putting a cover on their faces thats completely transparent. they show who they really are and say what they really think and express how they really feel. the truth is beautiful but to insecure people its ugly.
not really. There are people i know off their twitter/fb/blog and once they get on the internet, they put on this facade pretending to be something they are not. I had a reason for my comment.
But i understand where you say these so called "intelligent" people show they have no common sense. You do get to see some people's true colors
lol. thats even worse. pretending to be shallow and incompetent is only healthy when youre purposefully trying to get people to underestimate you. otherwise that just means youre going along with the crowd because you dont have the confidence to stand out from it.
youre right though. its easy to see people even if it is on the internet. you for instance are quite teachable. most middle class/college students/mainstreamers are too proud to learn real lessons. if you had better friends youd learn greater lessons. try making friends with housewives, mechanics, and construction workers.
Why go against the crowd when you can be with em? These "trolls" thrive off the attention. It's all a damn shame to me.
if "trolls" are just people who are confident enough to show their true colors and are vocal about the truth wouldnt it be more shameful to be in the crowd of liars?
if i told the truth id want someone to give me attention too. my feelings would be hurt if i got ignored because my words were too honest to fit in.
No no. The trolls are the ptetenders, to me. We can't say they are the ones that always tell the truth then the rest of us can't handle it. Maybe some truth tellers are trolls but all trolls are not truth tellers. Some just love to bash others to be seen. The thing that gets me is anonymous bashing. What can you possibly get from that? Hence my "internet is a mask" comment.
That's why i never understand those that anonymously get on blogs to purposefully be Negative Nancies.
youre a negative nancy which is why you dont like them. im starting to dislike you because it seems like youre going out of your way to be an idiot. i flipped your comments into a positive yet you still managed to suck the life out them.
tell me something positive about the people who are labeled as "trolls".
tell me something honest about people who say and do the same things as everyone else just to fit in and feel accepted.
Now you're being an @sshole. Lol i can't believe i'm the idiot. I think i've said enough. I know who and how i am so i can't let you tell me otherwise. Thanks for commenting though. We really appreciate it. You made your point
no. im being honest about my feelings unlike you. you go along with the crowd and have no idea why you should stop doing it. you have no idea who you are because you blend so well with the majority and as far your empty gratitude…
keep it to yourself. thank me when you learn something.
Readers – What do you feel are the boundaries, if any, for online commentary?
- Have an clue about what you're talking about. Not every topic is for you.
- No personal attacks.
- Realize that your way is not the only way. Be open. Think before you fire back.
- You don't always have to contribute to enjoy the conversation. Sometimes you learn the most when you're just observing.
- The person on the other end has feelings and the right to their opinion, just like you.
- When you're arguing with a fool, it just proves that there are two. (Know when to disengage)
- Acknowledge that when you post, you are opening yourself up to feedback/criticism.
- Not everything is about you.
How could I forget the #1 Rule of Bloggintonville!?!?!
- If you don't like/enjoy/appreciate/feel the writers are authentic or open to improvement/gain anything from reading – STOP. READING. THEIR. BLOG.
Agree. But I also thing part of the beauty of the internet is that is annonomous.
In a way, you are meeting a side of people that you would never meet face to face. There is much to be learned from the interactions between Super Egos.
*anonymous. And yeah, clash of the Super Egos usually goes wrong. The anonymity of the internet can turn out pretty bad
Great post, Streetz! As a newer blogger, I haven't had many dissenting opinions and definitely not to the level that megablogs have gotten, but I know it's coming. I remember getting one at my sister and my collab blog way back when, but it was about Beyonce so that's a given. That bish went OFF on me just for not saying everylasting glowing things about Bey. (My sis when OFF on her as well. Aw, fam love.)
Anyway, back then and still do this day I don't delete negative comments, even those that are to that nature. That commenter called me all kinds of names, but I let it stay. Unless it's spam or if there is — gawd forbid — an extreme case with a commenter, I let all of my comments through. There's no sense, IMO, in deleting folks just because they disagree. It negates the point. Even if they disagree harshly. I can take it. They just better be JUST AS prepared for the retort.
"Readers – What do you feel are the boundaries, if any, for online commentary?"
too often people start making personal attacks against someone who has an opinion thats radically different from the norm.
altering someones comment because you dont like them is crossing a boundary.
attacking someones character because youre offended by something they said is crossing a boundary.
insulting someone without engaging them in a deeper, more meaningful conversation is crossing a boundary.
providing an alternative view of life is completely within the limits of communication and anyone who does it should be respected. if you care enough to chastise or criticize the opposition you should be humble and mature enough to ask questions as to why theres even an opposition in the first place.
*sigh*
Le sigh of sighs
Pretty much. This is a perfect example of the type of dialouge that makes me fade to black in regards to commenting.
people who are incapable of respecting higher authority often have cosigners who are terribly insecure. the bottom line is grow up, learn something important as you walk through life and instead of sighing out of stupidity youll be awed into silence.
Wow? Chill out
And are you the "higher authority" that you speak of?
Perhaps if you can articulate a well thought out comment, I can respond to it properly.
I stop talking because engaging in such dialouge is pointless when you have people (i.e. you) who are rude and belligerent.
i wish you were self confident enough to say 'i can read i just cant comprehend your level of thinking because i havent reached that stage of personal development yet. instead of trying to learn im going to insult you and attempt to make you feel bad when i CLEARLY see several well thought out, coherent statements. i cant respond to them so im as incompetent as you said i am.'
You're premise makes absolutely no sense. You accuse me of insulting and attacking you, and yet that's the very thing you've been doing to every individual who has commented on this board…..
Riiiiiigggghtttt…that makes alot of sense.
But you got it homie. I'm done sparring with you. You don't communicate well enough for me to be bothered.
Happy Trolling!
Ah, nice try.
How about this: I'll admit to my lack of self-confidence when you admit to yours.
When you admit to the fact that in the real world you're probably a social awkward individual who didn't outgrow that stage as most people do after high school.
That you're surrounded by people who don't really accept you for who you are and make you feel like sh*t. You don't have a "voice" and you come online to spew insults at others b/c it gets your d!ck hard b/c you've accomplished something you never could in the real world.
I get it.
youre a coward. dont try to project your feelings on me because you dont have the heart to be honest about your self expression. quit attacking me and admit to your own problems.
"…who didn’t outgrow that stage as most people do after high school."
tell me…how did you act in high school and whats different about your character?
"…you’re surrounded by people who don’t really accept you for who you are and make you feel like sh*t."
so if you told your friends you no longer want to wear makeup or dress like them or talk like them or develop their bad habits or go along with everything they say because the real you is better than that they would support you and make you feel special?
You don’t have a “voice” and you come online to spew insults at others b/c it gets your d!ck hard b/c you’ve accomplished something you never could in the real world.
says the girl who is insulting me. what happens in real life when you vocalize the opinions i have on this blog entry?
i wish you were self confident enough to say 'i stop talking because i cant compete with the truth'.
for real dude/girl… you've proven your point. you can take the anonymous name off and go back to being a regular reader/commenter.
smfh at your existence right now
dude get out of here. i can speak and comment on what i want. you worry about you.
You gotta let that ish go. I try to smile and keep it moving but sometimes a comment can really urk me and drive me nuts. Not matter what I do try to keep a cool head because it isn't the end of the world if a total stranger and I do not agree.
Peace, Love and Chocolate
Tiffany
OMG this post was definitely needed! Bloggers have real feeling, too, just like anyone else, and it can be COMPLETELY frustruating when commenters attack just for the sake of doing it. The "chair throwers" are my biggest gripe. Like, seriously, you hope my unborn babies die because I wrote a piece on Mo'Nique and you're apparently her #1 fan? Puh-lease.
If it contributes nothing to actual conversation at hand, then the comment is probably better left unsaid. For bloggers who actually take the time to formulate thoughts for people to read and enjoy, we hope that you will take the time to read the whole thing and formulate your opinions based on what was written. Some criticize how something is written, but wouldn't know what AP style was if it slapped them in the face. A lot of people write comments coming in with a bias from what I've seen.
I blog, and I never mind when someone disagrees with me at all, but being venomous for no reason isn't called for, especially if you're a grown ass adult. Oh yeah, if you're gonna talk junk, it's best not to call yourself Jane/John Doe because you'll look really foolish. If you want to hate, at least man up to it lol.
So one who shakes pen!ses, I've read everyone of your comments on today's post.
I have yet to see any reason why one should conclude that you are more reasonable, rational, logical or wise than anyone on this blog. You have presented yourself as if we should bow down and respect your "advice" because you are omniscient.
I am actually starting to think that this is a set up to exemplify the points that were made in the original post. You've furthered the discussion in no positive manner whatsoever.
I'm not sure what you are attempting to teach us, but it clearly is not getting through.
So please, in a concise manner, can you explain what you're trying to do?
One more thing:
Furthermore, your comments seem to be very circular and similar to that of another blogger who i had an argument with. It goes like this: "I'm right and if you think that I'm wrong that only serves as evidence that I am right." That is not the sign of the type of intelligent conversation that I am sure you are capable of having.
This blog post has been seriously trolled today. ROFL
I commend yall for not deleting though. It makes the blogger look small. There are better ways to overcome them.
So please, in a concise manner, can you explain what you’re trying to do?
^This! Let me know if you get an answer
When I read the comments following Kanisa's article I was a little surprised. Surprised that some of my favorite writers even took the time to come to such a small personal space and get on the defensive. Seriously? Why does her opinion matter so much? Then I realized something: We're ARTISTS…and we SENSITIVE ABOUT OUR SHYT!" LOL, once I remembered that it all made sense.
I don't have any rules or expectations on blogs. It's the internet, not a private tea party. If I feel a certain way about something best believe I will express that opinion. I freely admit to being a contrary-azz Aries. I majored in creative writing, not psychology so I don't really care how you feel about my opinion that much. Everyone has their place, and contrary folks help balance out the habitually co-signing dyckryders.
Any blog that's been around for awhile has regulars that start feeling like a little e-fam. And everyone plays their role. The peacemaker, the antagonizer, that aunt and uncle whose arguments entertaint the rest, the wise elder, the smart mouth youngin, the clueless cousin. All are needed to make any blog a place worth coming back to over and over.
That's the gist that I got from this posting as well. Very well said Teflon Temptress!
Dang, can the welcoming committee get a shout-out? I know I've been somewhat MIA, but I'm not gone. LOL
Comment:
"I am curious to know what was your purpose on this blog today? What is it that you want everyone to take away from what you have said?
**Dont make it tooooo long! lol!"
Response:
"oh yes. you can read pages upon pages of a blog about sex but God forbid you have to read a paragraph that expresses wisdom and understanding. youre sad.
if you want to be happy ask again with humility and respect. leave the attitude for someone inferior to your immaturity."
This comment might be the worst that I've read in a while. From the beginning to the end, it proves every point that i've posited thus far and might be on the most logically inconsistent pieces of writing i've ever seen. Its so off that I think I might be mistaken as to what you were replying to.
You assumed that she reads the pages and pages of posts/blogs about chex. What happens if she does read those post? What happens if she only reads them if they're short? What happens if she's particularly time crunched today? Furthermore, you've failed to express any wisdom or understanding on this blog today. Not that you dont have, just that you havent shown it. Lastly, what type of humility were you looking for? Did you want her to get on her e-knees and e-beg you? I dont see an iota (no shots) of attitude in that comment at all. What maturity are you showing?
what happens when you answer the question/acknowledge the comments i directed at YOU instead of attacking a conversation im having with someone else?
mind your business and quit avoiding the path of truth i laid out for you.
I am sorry… There is no way you can lead me to believe that all of your comments were not a way to give an example of the first item in the post
**People who argue for arguments sake
These are the people who have a different opinion, just for kicks. **
Good job!!!
I am now limited to only the comments directed directly at me? How did you begin commenting in the first place? Many of your comments are on comments not aimed at you. What you're telling people to do and what you're doing are not consistent.
Your comments on a blog should be treated like the post itself. So with that being said, would you tell a commenter on a blog to go mind their business?
What path? You've skirted every single questions I asked.
me: what happens when you answer the question/acknowledge the comments i directed at YOU instead of attacking a conversation im having with someone else?
you: I am now limited to only the comments directed directly at me?…You’ve skirted every single questions I asked
so im telling you to finish OUR conversation instead of jumping into ones im having with other people and youre telling me IM avoiding the conversation.
you arent being consistent so not only are you baffled by me youre a hypocrite thats avoiding the truth. all conversations with you are over.
I have the ability to have multiple conversations at once. We can talk about more than one thing.
you try so hard to prove your worth as a deep thinker yet you attack things are non-conformist. it doesnt take much thought to do that because its easy to see whats wrong with an oppositional statement.
if you took all that fight, thought deeply about an opposing viewpoint, took it apart and grasped the positive sides about it you would be a better person for it. THATS how you show wisdom.
That's the thing that you're not getting. I'm not attacking you whatsoever. I'm sure you're a good person. you're using the term non-conformity as a cop out for being rude and condescending when you have yet to present any evidence of why you should be given those privileges.
You've continually proved every point that i've made. And of course you're not going to see it. And despite the fact that everyone on this blog thinks you're wilding, we're all wrong. You're the one, you're neo and we're just peons.
You're going to say something along the line of "you dont like my non-conforming ways" or "you're too stupid to see the path" or "mind ya business." But when you say that, my retort is "WHAT EFFING PATH?!?!?!" You been doing a whole lot of typing and aint said sh!t.
My email is peyso69@gmail. I can make you look like a fool in private next time
*sitting back eating popcorn, enjoying the show*
trolling isnt something to be overcome its a way to see if people can understand the concept of truth. you overcome adversity. you overcome oppression. you overcome a stagnant lifestyle. you embrace something new and move forward with your life and inspire others to do the same. you take the characteristics of a "troll" and plant seeds.
I have a question. You've actually managed to spark a brief thought with your 50+ comments of rap album filler.
So let's say we were to acknowledge your greatness and subscribe to your truths. At that point, we would all be in agreement, which would then mean that we're conformists and sheep following the wise and magnificent Man Who Shakes Head. And since we're confirming to your views, does that not make you a conformist as well? Would you suddenly shift your views as to remain different?
when you really want to learn something and are prepared to ask questions without insulting me…when you truly want an understanding of something youre curious about and are not just asking questions in attempt to make me look silly…
ill give you a legitimate answer.
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Yes master.
This is all quite interesting really. I think that although offensive.. "SMFH At Your Life" might be quite brilliant in a Hannibal Lecter kind of way.
Streetz, this was an excellent post in that it allowed me the opportunity to "really" think about what it is that I, as someone who reads quite a few blogs expect from them and the writers and even those who comment. Reading the posts written over time by Slim, on this blog and Three Ways, and his thoughtful response to the other blogger, I can certainly see the growth in his writing and that is one thing that I definitely can get with.
Boundaries for online commentary? I think a lot can be learned from the comments, especially the comments that dissent from the writers and perhaps the majority of the co-signers. As it has been stated “It is not where we stand at times of comfort that count; but rather where we stand in times of discomfort that reveal our true character”
As I said before- well done Streetz.
lol. thats one of my pet peeves…faking compliments. its easy to drone on about how great a blogger is and to call a maverick a psychopath.
glad to see thinking positively about me and my opinions is such hard work. it would make anyone think twice about the survival of most human beings. -straight face-
I would like to point out a few things.
1) There's nothing wrong with negative comments! A cosign-laden post is wack to me. We're here to dsicuss and think and converse and have FUN! Can't have that with one method of thinking
2) Depending on the blog, you have to know the "climate" of the comments. As a avid reader/lurker/commenter on a blog like Nah Right, some of yall wouldn't last 5 minutes at the potent ether that's displayed there. The site owners/writers get rinse DAILY! They don't delete comments though, they fire right back. That's their community though, they recognize that some people are there to be assh*les, and that's what makes it pop!
On a blog like this, where the climate is a little different, that type of brazen ether might be taken the wrong way or received differently. One of my peoples used to say "This is America. You have the right to say whatever you want. I have the right to punch you in the mouth if I don't like it"
I say that to say, don't be surprised if you receive equal or greater amounts of hate if you choose to come out of pocket for entertainment, trolling, or whatever. We all have a thick skin [||] here so no one is going home and carryin shyt.
Finally, SMH at your life has about 50 comments, yet we don't have lives? True… lol. Funny because its clearly a regular reader too… you forgot about WordPress search function?! #LURKY
not only do you guys count my comments you do extensive searches on me. thats pretty stalkerish. if you want to know more about me just ask.
50 comments in one day as opposed to how many hundreds of blog posts by the same 5 or 6 authors?…its clearly more time consuming to write a few paragraphs than it is to write several thousand, perhaps several million words about the same meaningless BS.
if you guys spent less time "shooting" at people with diversified opinions and more time making peace youd be well informed instead of well entertained.
Peeps, I for one appreciate the conversations that comes from these posts. I'm glad everyone doesn't agree. As for negativity, no one has been negative towards me in a way I would ever care to remember. I do own a blog but it's of a different nature (software engineering).
Let's look at what "smfh at your life" is trying to say. This person is saying that there seems to be a reoccurring theme in "black blogs." That says a lot about the topics young black people choose to write about and the types of blogs this individual traverses. I had a mentee that used similar approaches when trying to find a way to contribute to breaking what he felt was mundaneness within some community. You stir up people's feelings as some attempt to force them to think. The problem is that trolling or as a participant would call it "bringing people out of their comfort zones" is a very poor implementation and the user bypasses the chance of creatively causing some influence. That is because when it comes to emotions, people usually don't think. It's one of those it's great idea but poorly executed situations.
I'm not giving excuses for someone coming on this site and acting like they have no manners. But the rationale for the actions is at least lukewarm. The main issue is that the attack is misplaced. "smfh at your life", if there are topics you want addressed you could send the admins an email OR even ask if you could even submit a post.
Doing anything other than what I just stated means you lack the creative know-how to communicate your ideas. Meaning that you clearly lack the artistic aptitude to get a message across in a way that induces thought and not anger towards you. Which shows that you probably can't read or write effectively. If you don't agree with my statements then you're probably dumb anyway. Am I being honest or negative? did I attack you? Can being honest (in reference to my own feelings) be an attack?
Hopefully you all noticed that paragraphs 2 and 4 said the exact same thing but one was an attack=negative. In both, I was being honest.
#fin
lmao!
i dont like the method of sucking up before saying something offensive but ill tell you what happened emotionally. the moment you grasped my point i was skeptical because its always followed by an insult to my character though i was still happy someone looked at my actions objectively.
once i realized i was right and you were using it as an opportunity to insult me i cut off my emotions so that i could see the truth in what you were saying. it has occured to me to do talk to the admins, write a post, make my own blog but it would be a waste of my time considering the level of leadership i have offline.
creativity is expressed through being an idealist and a visionary. blogging isnt creative. yes you attacked me. yes you insulted me. yes i was offended by some of your comments but yes…
i am very good at communicating and learning despite all those things and if i can do so can everyone else.
once i realized i was right and you were using it as an opportunity to insult me i cut off my emotions so that i could see the truth in what you were saying
AND THIS is what people should do. No one here can really insult me/you/commenter/lurker since many of us don't know each other. It's the individuals that choose if/how they internalize the statements of others.
I was pretty rude but honest. But that's the price for using your method. What else would you expect? #cmonson
To me, your comments were just a catalyst I used for delivering some truth. Sorry, but that's just how it is when a person decides to use your method. All you had to do was simply propose a change of pace. Not hope someone can read between the lines… But let's not get into the psychology of it… LOL
completely ignoring how rude some of that was im taking away something positive from your comment.
you recognize that the black community needs help. you recognize people need to be shaken up so they can think more deeply and have more meaningful actions because of it. you recognize that my comments arent said with malicious intent but are done out of compassion and concern to make that happen. thats all i ever wanted.
and now that i think about it i have no reason to be offended.
you dont go to a shop of long-term mechanics to teach the basics of working on cars you go to an autoshop class in high school and become a teacher. you fill a need if you have something important to say. thats just common sense.
Strangely enough… My last reply to your reply says the SAME THING (just about).
lmao.
My method is just drastically different from yours…
Wow….go to lunch and this happens.
This a good post Streetz! Much needed also.
To LaLaBakir, Cheekie, Tunde, Reecie, and a few others that frequent the same blogs as I do: Don't engage people that are clearly on the Internet to troll. I find that they aren't usually interested in winning an argument they exist only to waste your time.
This is why many of these comments become circular and the same things are repeated but worded in a different manner. Questions answered with questions. A vague quip here or there. Think of it as an Internet guerilla warfare tactic based on pure ignorance, cynical quips, and dangling bait designed to draw normally sensible folks into a fight that wastes the time of talented bloggers and interested readers.
The fact that a troll can tie up a normally entertaining and informative comment section only makes that troll sit at desk, public library, or their moms laptop and smile.
We are all better than this ish.
Again, good post Streetz.
you guys are negative thinkers. if someone keeps trying to get you to think back to the same thing its probably a way to help you better yourself.
how is putting the truth on repeat a good thing? why should you engage someone who leads you back to the truth when they speak?
Now that I've gotten through all the comments, let me just say that I'm finding SMFH to be at the very least entertaining.
Readers – What do you feel are the boundaries, if any, for online commentary?
I can sum this up with I am exactly the same online as I am in real life. If I disagree, I try to express it in a respectful manner. I'm not stressed about having my real face up here because I don't intend on saying (typing) anything that I'd be ashamed of people (coworkers, boss, friends, etc) in my life seeing (although, when my sister gets around to opening a few links I've sent her, she may have some words). The boundaries for your real life should be the same for online.
In general – How do you handle negativity? What’s one way someone has pissed you off? Does Wayne Brady have to…choke a bish?!
I try to shrug negativity off, online or otherwise. I'm only human though and will sometimes take things personally and lose my cool for a second. Ish happens.
I try to shrug negativity off, online or otherwise. I’m only human though and will sometimes take things personally and lose my cool for a second. Ish happens.
try. It's hard. I lose my cool easily. But sh*t does happen
You know what? OK Ill fall for the #swindle
SMH,
What is your ultimate endgame here? Seriously? With all due respect and reverence and without a hint of feceitiousness (sp/gr) in my voice, I ask that you humbly enlighten me on the actual point you want to make, but say you won't because you're being disrespected. I for one, negative or positive, would like to indulge in real commentary.
im not trying to swindle you at all. i want to talk to you guys without all the animosity because im genuinely concerned about how misguided my people are.
the point of the matter is that every black person on this site has the potential to do something great in the world. drinking, drugs, sex, blogging, entertainment, all of that is a waste of time because it degrades our value and ruins our moral code. life has more to offer us. God made us better than that. he made us more spiritual than that. we are more powerful than the things we feel limited to and if we used that as common ground with each other we could make a point to the world that black people are superior because its our God-given right to be.
OK so SMH,
You have an issue with the morality of blogs?
As far as drinking, sex, etc those are personal decisions. I don't agree because unless you allow those things to consume you, it's not bad. There are some people who are slaves to their job. Slaves to money. I think that's just as detrimental. I mean blogs though? I can't cosign. Next you'll say fantasy football is the devil?
No disrespect intended but I tend to disagree with extreme mentalities and concepts. I agree that those things you mentioned, when they control your life, can be a negative. As long as the house is in order its all good.
lol. youre actually developing my point even if you dont agree with it. if youre blogging about those things you ARE consumed by them. if you build a family or a community based on them than youre acting contrary to what God created you for.
how do you think youd be able to tell if someone became a slave to the things i mentioned earlier? how do you think they could be changed for the better?
youre being respectful. youre saying you dont agree with everything i said yet youre conversing with me and communicating feelings, opinions, and ideas about greater things in life. its not disrespectful for you to be honest just like it wasnt disrespectful for me to do it.
How do you know God didn't create me to discuss prevalent issues in our community and on this plane of existence? How do we TRULY know that?! Everyone has a purpose and whether or not we truly find that, is the real mystery.
We discuss topics on this blog based on the premise of male/female relationships. We give opinions, educate, foster meaningful discussion, and knowledge share. I don't see anything sinful in that.
Would you say the same thing if this was a theology blog? What about politics, sports, etc?
Didnt the Bible also say "beware of false prophets?" Sometimes the holy rollers are the ones with the horn under the halo. No shots at you
Exactly! we all have a purpose and you should know God thinks more of highly of you than you staying in this box of expressing it to others. the only way to figure out your purpose is to trust him. the only way to learn who you truly as the man God made you to be is let go of what the world tells you is true.
sure you have these discussions but they are based in wordly culture. sinful culture. i dont really care all that much about politics or sports because im focused on changing peoples lives. life means a lot to me so my discussions are just as meaningful.
false prophets are the christians with huge churches that dont do anything for you but constantly knock you up for tithes and offerings. they feed you the same crap as the devil and put jesus' name on it. like christian night clubs….what??? no. real prophets are people who speak against those things.
So to clarify:
drinking, drugs, sex, blogging, entertainment, all of that is a waste of time because it degrades our value and ruins our moral code.
So every black person on this site has degraded value because we comment on a blog? Writing/blogging and entertainment are bad things?
life has more to offer us
So every black person on this site has no life outside of this blog?
he made us more spiritual than that.
We’re not spiritual because we comment on this blog?
if we used that as common ground with each other we could make a point to the world that black people are superior because its our God-given right to be.
Our goal in life is to prove to the world that black people are superior?
I'm mad it took us 150+ comments to start getting somewhere with this.lol.
"So every black person on this site has degraded value because we comment on a blog? Writing/blogging and entertainment are bad things?"
no. you have degraded value because you refuse to believe you can do better than that at life.
"So every black person on this site has no life outside of this blog?"
if life consists of drugs, sex, and entertainment than no. what else does the world offer that would allow us to let those things go?
"We’re not spiritual because we comment on this blog?"
youre not spiritual because youre limited to this blog.
"Our goal in life is to prove to the world that black people are superior?"
nope. our purpose in life is to show how superior God is through the use of the spirit.
There are a lot of assumptions being made by dude on why people visit this blog and what goes on in the rest of their lives. I'm glad he's switched up the approach, but it sounds to me like he already has a pessimistic and depressing outlook on black people that contradicts his efforts to wanna help. A lot of us are doing great things in life already, but he thinks that our souls are being sucked into the computer screen and that we're slack-jaw fools just typing our way into the grave.
And I still don't know what "the truth" is yet….
@ slim
you just told the truth now all you have to do is accept it. there is more to life than a computer screen and the sinful things you type on it. there is more to life than doing everything that mainstreams your thought process thus mainstreaming the way you live. that isnt doing something great. is it more depressing to limit your life to sex, money, and entertainment are would you be more fulfilled if you found a way to live with purpose?
whats your idea of greatness?
What's killing me is that you're still making the assumption that this is all people do here. From what I know of the demographics here, most of the folks are educated working professionals or students looking to take the next steps in their lives. You're making the assumption that people are doing nothing. I can't rock with that and therefore I can't really even respond to you in-depth because your basic premise is recklessly flawed.
no. you have degraded value because you refuse to believe you can do better than that at life.
So you think we don’t do anything better with our lives than comment on a blog? You think we spend 24 hours a day commenting here?
if life consists of drugs, sex, and entertainment than no. what else does the world offer that would allow us to let those things go?
So you assume we’re all drug-abusing, $exually loose hedonists because we comment on this blog?
youre not spiritual because youre limited to this blog.
How are we “limited to this blog”? Do we type the site's web address in the browser and our computer locks up? Do we not walk away from the computer?
our purpose in life is to show how superior God is through the use of the spirit.
So (assuming we are all crack-smoking, orgy-having, computer-bound losers) we doubt the superiority of God? We can't be spiritual people?
@ slim
youre avoiding the point im making and are still trying to zero in on the negative. youre trying to discredit me, make me look bad, basically throwing me under the bus instead of trying to learn or reach a common ground. youre incredibly disrespectful and i dont appreciate what youre doing to me and to yourself.
@ hugh
yeah. pretty much. now flip it.
"So you think we don’t do anything better with our lives than comment on a blog?…"
read the bible and live it and life will be better than commenting on a blog during work hours.
"So you assume we’re all drug-abusing, $exually loose hedonists because we comment on this blog?"
write about something you learned that has nothing to do with illicit materials and failed relationships. that way people could assume youre a sober minded person that seeks fulfillment rather than temporary pleasures.
"How are we “limited to this blog”? "
because its necessary for your survival. let it go and pick up something more meaningful.
"So (assuming we are all crack-smoking, orgy-having, computer-bound losers) we doubt the superiority of God?"
if you have faith let go of your hedonistic lifestyle and follow Christ. see how far the spirit takes you.
I agree with this and think about this everyday.
we are more powerful than the things we feel limited to
Then you said.
and if we used that as common ground with each other we could make a point to the world that black people are superior because its our God-given right to be.
This is a genuine disagreement I have with you (and many people). We shouldn't be seeking superiority. Looking for that is just a reactionary motivation of our treatment by Europeans. It doesn't bring us closer to greatness. Sorry.
what do you think we should be seeking?
to me greatness is living purposefully and spiritually in spite of the adversity that comes from such a lifestyle. we are limited to the things i mentioned earlier but if we got rid of that stuff wed be very powerful as a community.
@SMH
You at first said "superior." Well, I guess you meant superior than who we are today opposed to superior to other races/communities. Let's hope that's what you meant…
We should FIRST should seek understanding of ourselves. e.g. Identity. Many people try to define our identity which ends up alienating many people that are part of the black community. Their statements turn into talk of X,Y,Z is blackness. Too many of our people internalized a childhood of other black children picking on them because they were "different." Then we give them the side-eye when they don't identify with the "definition" of "black" that people within the black mainstream pseudo-culture slap on all of us. It's sad…
I've stated this on many sites: Identity isn't defined but rather it is realized. One day you look in the mirror and finally realize who you are.
Black, as the identity, of a people is self-explanatory. It is a unique entity within itself. and need no other qualifying terms. That way no one is alienated by their interests or upbringing. Problem solved, moving on…
lol. are you running because embracing the truth feels so good?
i agree with the point you made: black people need to know who they are and stop believing in what everyone else tells them to be. embrace who God made you to be and love it. love HIM for it.
my thing is this…if black people are sleeping on themselves because they feed into something that jades their identity, someone has to care enough to wake them up. the identity of "black" people is mainstreamed into the culture of the world but african americans have a completely seperate identity.
if black people and african americans realized our identity is the same at the very core of who we are, wed be superior as a community because it would be one of Godly inspiration.
Also, I will admit that I also felt a little insulted as a regular reader/commenter of some of the blogs mentioned in KaNisa's post. I got almost the same vibe that some Apple stan gives off when talking about PCs or some vegans give off when you order meat. I can't say that I blame any one of the bloggers that commented, as I probably would have too at the time and I only frequent these sites. I'm glad I read it today instead of when it posted and got to read her responses and clarification.
@SMH
Respectfully,
Im sorry but in the words of Dame Dash
"You dont know sh*t about my culture"
You basically say that blogging is the devil. Agree to disagree gzzz…
You have no clue what people do outside of this realm, so you're statements are conjecture at best. I don't think anyone really needs to wear their theology on their sleeve to prove anything.
So if this was a hristian blog would you still be beefin?
lets take it back down a notch. continue to work out what im saying to you.
there are several hundred entries on this site that tells me what people do offline so everything i know about your culture comes from what YOU tell me. everything ive experienced within MY culture is something you know nothing of so im trying to help you out.
what could life offer you without this blog, sex, money, drugs, alcohol, and entertainment?
"what could life offer you without this blog, sex, money, drugs, alcohol, and entertainment?"
Yo mama!
Seriously, I'm thru with the roundabout. LOL at entertainment. Some peoples entertainment is God, so…. they devils too right. I mean Lucifer is an angel…
yeah. im tired of it too. the bottom line is you have to face the unknown and become a deep thinker if you want to stop going in circles with your life. let me know when that happens.
Not often that a "yo mama!" makes you sound like the most intelligent one in the conversation…not true in this instance…perfectly executed.
*holds up "10" card*
Gotta applaud your effort Streetz
Lord knows I don't have the patienceand an iota of headway was made…but nothing could've ended that better than "Yo mama!"perhaps an additional "and ya daddy!" Too much?oh! jesus hung out with sinners and unsaved people. he only talked to pharisees to tell them to stop blaspheming his name. christian bloggers are just well educated who havent experienced the emotional, mental, and especially the spiritual aspect of living as christ did so i dont associate with them. nor do i associate with most church going christians.
stick with people who are the "live in the ghetto because Gods spirit can help through me" kind of people.
What type of jobs do you think black men are best suited for?
the kind where they have to be strong minded, positive thinkers that answer questions and can grasp oppositional points.
but if you expected a different answer you can tell me that.
personally, i dont expect youre good enough to get any of the points im making so im not going to waste my time conversing with you.
I thought we were getting somewhere, but clearly not. At this point, I'm just having fun because you're clearly on a plane to Shutter Island.
You've described this blog as hell and sin all day, yet you're still here commenting. If you're trying to save souls and black people, you're failing horribly.
You consistently insulted readers and you just basically said many of us are not worthy of discourse with you. I can't imagine you walking alongside Jesus and Him saying "Shakeisha, I want you to to go into the depths of the hell that is the Single Black Male website and sh*teth upon the heads of all the sinners and simultaneously rescue them from their online captivity."
SMDH, your negativity and nonsense made this a great day. I thank you for that. I think you should stop by the Very Smart Brothas website tomorrow and try to save some of them. They'd be much more open to your knowledge and truth.
**puts booby trap in place and snickers.** Hey Champ, I got someone I'd like you to meet….
I see what you did there…
I'm already convinced!!!!!
Girl/Boy, Bye!!!!!!!
Uh Uh it's a Setup……. (kat williams voice)
I may be WRONG buuut……
Shekeisha/Shequeisha is this you?
Hey Girl, Hey…..
#CarryOn
*SipsGlassofWine*
That's what I told Slim!
if shekeisha/shequeisha is a person equally as fed up with gossip queens and shallow conversations as me than yes. we are the same person. you should become me too.
Strangely enough, I deal with this all the time. At the same time, because of the very personal nature of the posts and comments on my site, it's VERY rare that I post disparaging comments on my site. It scares women off and I can't have that.
So…
“Bloggers – how do you handle adverse commentary like the example above? Do you actually crave this type of negativity? why or why not?”
If someone disagrees with me, we can dialogue and see where the differences truly lie – I say that not to imply that people who disagree just don't know any better (LOL) but to say that perhaps they have information I may not – and everything can still be cool. If someone is being inciteful or negative (lots of fat-hating rhetoric) and I don't believe I can contain the firestorm that might ensue, it simply gets deleted. No shame in my game – that's MY site, and *I* pay for it.
I've had people who mistake my debating them for some kind of bulldozing or insulting or shaming them, but because of the nature of my site, its important for there to be clarity in the message and the information. People who can't hang with my guidelines tend to fall by the wayside… and I'm okay with that. *super shrug*
I just feel like if a blogger writes with a message, all efforts should be taken to keep the conversation on message, or at least relative to the message. If it veers to the point where people are incoherent? Deuces. #noshade #butshade #hellashade
I cosign E. Popeyes on me next time im in MIA!
[insert various and sundry amounts of SHADE]
Go away. LOL
My advice??? Consider the source. Some people no matter what you do will hate on you until they find a source (like a vampire). What you don't want to grow, you have starve (this includes negativity).
As a blogger I made the assumption that if people came to my blog they KNEW these were my opinions and not gospel, right? Wrong. I assumed they knew I was speaking from what I know and not speaking on behalf of the single sisterhood. Bad assumption as well.
People take things personally and they reserve the right to go in. I reserve the right to delete their comment once it dissolves into repetitive putrid haterade.I generally attempt civilized banter. Then I warn once. Then I deliver the verbal beatdown and hit delete.
I also tend to blog about my life and yes, it stings like hell when people feel free to tell you that are conducting your life with the finesse and subtlety of a Drake lyric.
But at the end of the day, I've just grown thicker skin. it's all free speech. You can either love it or leave it alone.
OK, getting cramped for space up there.
read the bible and live it and life will be better than commenting on a blog during work hours.
I’ve read the entire Bible. Have you? I don’t recall reading anything about not commenting on blogs.
write about something you learned that has nothing to do with illicit materials and failed relationships. that way people could assume youre a sober minded person that seeks fulfillment rather than temporary pleasures.
I’m not a blogger, so I don’t write about “illicit materials and failed relationships”. Trust me, if I desired to be a writer, I could not only write about the Bible, but also on theology, apologetics, and philosophy and how they relate. So, dear teacher, what do you want to discuss? Saul of Tarsus? Augustine of Hippo? Plato? CS Lewis? I mean, assuming you think I am a sober-minded person.
Me: “How are we “limited to this blog?”
smfh: because its necessary for your survival. let it go and pick up something more meaningful.
Huh? How did you conclude commenting on this blog is “necessary for (my) survival”? Do you honestly think I’ll have a stroke if I don’t comment here?
if you have faith let go of your hedonistic lifestyle and follow Christ. see how far the spirit takes you
How do you know I, or anyone else here, haven’t? Don’t become so heavenly bound that you’re no earthly good. No one can relate to you. What happened to preaching the good news?
And, just as a suggestion from a lowly heroin-injecting hedonist, you may not want to use the screen name "shaking my f*cking head" and then try to preach Christ to people and call them sinners.
hugh shut up. youre being stubborn.
i see Someones Mother Failed Horribly at your life…
"hugh shut up. youre being stubborn because Someones Mother Failed Horribly at your life."
Silly girl, you fell right into my intellectual trap.
I let you dance around the issue until I cornered you. I responded to the substance of your comments, and when I exposed your ridiculous assumptions as false, and even demonstrated I know far, far more about the Bible and theology than you do, you couldn't respond. You not only go into a personal attack, but you insult my mother. You lose. Take your ball and go home.
That was easy. #nostaples
if thats your version of being intellectual i assume i didnt insult your mother but called out her horrible parenting skills.
her son cant take blatant truth. i told you to get off this blog and you got defensive, providing reason as to why you should stay and self validating by providing details of your intellectualism…yet you dont have the common sense to say "okay ill try it" to a good idea.
reading the bible makes you well read. it doesnt make you knowledgable in anything beyond pride and conceit. humility is LIVING the Bible. if anyone fell into a trap its you as you show arrogance in your devilish snares.
i feel sorry for you because something terrible and catastrophic will have to happen before you wake up. even then you may never get the point of living a life of purpose unless you humble yourself.
and fyi…i told you to shut up because youre incapable of building on my point yet you provide an obvious setup to try to discredit me. ill take my vision and go global.
if thats your version of being intellectual i assume i didnt insult your mother but called out her horrible parenting skills.
You said she has bad parenting skills. Since you want to talk about my mother, the gloves come off.
her son cant take blatant truth.
LOL! Truth about what? You STILL haven’t answered that question that Peyso asked this morning, and it couldn’t be anything godly related, I’ve demonstrated I’ve trumped you there. You completely missed the point of my “good news” comment, you fraudulent Philistine. But here’s some verses for you to think about while you’re calling everyone here sinners.
Matthew 7:1-2 – Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
John 8:7 – So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.
Romans 14:10 – But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.
James 4:12 – There is one lawgiver, who is able to save and to destroy: who art thou that judgest another?
i told you to get off this blog and you got defensive, providing reason as to why you should stay and self validating by providing details of your intellectualism…
Yes, I should get off the blog because you said so. Whatever broad. I never got defensive, I asked follow-up questions to your statements. The problem is I exposed that there is no substance or truth in your comments. Your empty rhetoric and meaningless platitudes may work on the five-year olds you attempt to preach to, but it won’t work here.
reading the bible makes you well read. it doesnt make you knowledgable in anything beyond pride and conceit.
Says the person with the granddaddy of all curse words in their screen name who thinks she's a "teacher" dispensing "truth" and "wisdom".
humility is LIVING the Bible.
Yes. You should try it sometime.
i feel sorry for you because something terrible and catastrophic will have to happen before you wake up. even then you may never get the point of living a life of purpose unless you humble yourself.
I live a life of purpose. But you are so stupid that you think what little bit people write on a blog is the totality of their life.
and fyi…i told you to shut up because youre incapable of building on my point yet you provide an obvious setup to try to discredit me. ill take my vision and go global.
I’m incapable of building on your point because you have yet to make one. And what vision are you taking global? Christianity? That happened already, moron.
You are not intelligent enough to have this conversation with me. Go back to whatever third world hellhole you came from and try to “educate” them. And change your life before you try to tell others too, hypocrite.
if you spent more time offline living those verses youd have more wisdom to teach than intellectualism to regurgitate. its easy to quote something but if youve never lived it its just memorization and repitition. that doesnt prove anything accept the fact that you exist.
again. youre conceited, stubborn, and arrogant. your time is more valuable to you when youre proving your intellectual superiority. my time is more valuable to me when i stop aguing with subordinates who arent willing to learn.
you have a great 3 more years on this website.
You poor double-digit IQ-having dimwit. Do you not see the hypocrisy of calling people "conceited, stubborn, and arrogant" while assuming you know about a person's life by reading blog comments? I gave you an opportunity to teach me something, and you drew a complete blank. You could put no substance behind your flimsy words.
Give it up heathen.
reading comments someone makes about their own life and drawing conclusions makes me wise, reasonable, and logical.
grasping the point behind someones words means i have higher comprehension.
youre trying to teach me youre superior…im trying to teach you how to better your life. which one of us needs to give up?
heathen: an unconverted individual who follows pagan rituals instead of what the Bible says.
so please…teach me something from your worldly expeditions to "third world countries" spreading the gospel of Christ. im all ears.
but i mean i assume the only thing youre willing to do is debate intellectualism. because of that im starting to toy with you and thats a sign to walk away.
"How do you know I, or anyone else here, haven’t? Don’t become so heavenly bound that you’re no earthly good. No one can relate to you. What happened to preaching the good news?"
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"And, just as a suggestion from a lowly heroin-injecting hedonist, you may not want to use the screen name “shaking my f*cking head” and then try to preach Christ to people and call them sinners."
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I'm calling it…TOD: 1548 Central
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“reading comments someone makes about their own life and drawing conclusions makes me wise, reasonable, and logical. grasping the point behind someones words means i have higher comprehension.”
You have yet to do this.
“youre trying to teach me youre superior…im trying to teach you how to better your life. which one of us needs to give up?”
You couldn’t teach me how to better my life. I gave you an opportunity. Streetz, Slim, and Peyso gave you an opportunity. You couldn’t do it. In fact, you should stop assuming how people live their lives, Jezebel. Because you pulled an epic FAIL today.
“heathen: an unconverted individual who follows pagan rituals instead of what the Bible says.”
Judging from the performance you put on here today, that definition suits you to a tee.
“so please…teach me something from your worldly expeditions to “third world countries” spreading the gospel of Christ. im all ears.”
I haven’t been to any, nor did I claim that I did. I help people around me, spiritually (teaching Sunday school and Bible class), physically (personal training and doing nutrition workshops) and intellectually (tutoring). My life is an example. But sure, I’ll teach you something.
If you are even remotely serious about spreading the Gospel, which you have yet to demonstrate, remember Gospel means “good news”. You can’t convert people by demeaning them. Jesus didn’t do this, so you aren’t following His example. You can change a person’s heart through love. You can possibly do it through reason. You can even do it through fear. But you can’t do it through derisive condescension. Maybe you should read Slim’s excellent three-part post on how he personally found faith, and some of the reason he (and others) were slow to come to Christ. http://www.threewaystotakeit.com/find-a-church/#c… This post also belies your claim about what people write about.
Your blatant lack of respect, assumptions on how we live our lives, and the definitive fact that you’re fallen as well is the reason every single person on this blog tuned you out. Well, that and the fact you make no sense. It’s been fun watching everyone here give you a logical smackdown, and then joining in to finish off your remains. But I’m logging off, so that should make you happy.
the identity of “black” people is mainstreamed into the culture of the world but african americans have a completely seperate identity.
This the most important statement made today aside from the post telling commenters to basically stop hatin.'
Regardless if someone is staging or not, we all should give the performance our all. For all I know or care, Most, Hugh and Streetz can really be the same person. It doesn't matter… How many people have multiple monkiers? How many people have multiple facebook accounts and multiple twitter accounts? How many faces do we all have?
How can we have so many faces yet be not so faceted in our presentation to the world? I've always told my friends that I'm tired of the typical coonish/tragic "black" movies.
For me, Takers was a "black" movie, the first in a while, that was just a regular movie. It didn't OD on any of those extra stigmas.
We, as a people, can do whatever we want. We can view and carry ourselves however we wish. BUT it requires us to take control of our reality. It has nothing to do with media and more to do with what goes on inside our minds everyday. If women aren't treated fairly, let's create a reality where they are. If men are subject to sexual orientation persecution, let's create a reality where they are not. All these people I've came across that believe we were create in the image of a higher power have yet to acknowledge and put into action: That we are created in God's image because we are able to create (realities for ourselves). So much power in that statement. Is 2010 too soon to carry ourselves this way?
yes! i can stop holding my breath wondering if anyone will ever understand me and my message.
now make God proud. stand on a platform offline and give that same speech.
Waaaooooow, can't believe y'all done let some old circular argument making fool come in your house, talk that much nonsense and suck up that much time. For real? FOR REAL? I was trying to keep up for a second but then one of my twins would punch me in the ribs, lol.
Antywho, I have better news: my baby came back from Iraq today! Whoooooooo-hoooooooooooooo!!!! I am loving life right now.
Teffy
1) Twins?!! I didnt even know! You're on Timeout for not spreadin the news. Sinatra
2) Congrats on baby being back, lol
3) Dont you know angry comments get better promotion? lol
the spirit of God has no boundaries. thats amazing!
even your unborn child is trying to slap some sense into you.
this is totally uncalled for. stop it
so…telling a female the spirit of God has touched her child and is trying to reach her is uncalled for but an entire community of people calling me names, insulting my character, tearing down my viewpoints, criticising, condemning, and trying every which way to hurt me on a very deep, extremely personal level is perfectly acceptable?
youre a great person for the defending the victim in this situation.
i havent called u names. i dont do insults. so dont come here and start slagging off someone's unborn child. it's wrong. plain and simple
" Seriously, do some of you read these blogs or do you skim through it? "
- I love the eminem reference! That's my song.
I think that debate is good and should be welcomed on every blog… unfortunately people often feel they can't get their feelings across without also attack the writer/commenter…. I mean I guess that's your style but it also shows a lack of maturity. This applies to both commenters and bloggers as well.
I'd just like to point out that SMFH aka Shakeisha has commented 100 times today. I find it hilarious that this person started the day talking like a man and has now transformed into a woman in the evening.
Hugh, you done kept me entertained all afternoon. Like…death via laughter. You 2 Peyso…while you were around at least.lol.
wow. seems like im the only person around here with enough sense to change. thank you for the compliment.
I tried to just watch from afar, but she made it sooooo easy! She shouldn't have talked about my mama!
id just like to thank my fans for counting my comments, spending the entire day reading them, and allowing me to make majority of the big dogs on this site look foolish.
you guys have a great life.
God Bless You Sister Shakeisha. See you in 6 months.
You have a great life as well. Hopefully you'll change it around so you'll see salvation on the other side.
Why didn't someone text/BBM/email me that Shequeiska Lashayshay Boniqua was back? I am missing everything with this new position DAMN!
#Iworktoomuch
SO SMFH I have another question, did you think that your manner of delivering whatever message you are trying to deliver was the appropriate way to do so. Again, your comments as a whole almost personify what the post is about. Let's agree that you want to save the world, us included. Let's also agree that you know the path. Do you think spending the first half of the day not mentioning any of this path was the way to do it? Did you think that putting yourself on a pedestal was the way to do it? Did you think that belittling have the people on the sight would foster an environment conducive to communication?
I'm grown, I'm mature. I may have come across rude in sone of my comments. Are you willing to admit that?
You've failed at communicating. You've allowed what could have been a great message to because you lack etiquette. You've given us a steak on a garbage lid.
EPIC. COSBY. REFERENCE!
*bows down to this excellence*
BTW, i got no email from you
Tough skin is essential when blogging. Even my guest post last Wednesday was open to much criticism – something I wasn't expecting, but ready for nonetheless. It is quite healthy to have a back and forth banter as long as we learn from each other.
I have a personal blog and at times, i' have some nasty attacking comments. I always ignore and i have realised that the other people reading the blog try to fight the comment for me most times, so all i do is sit back and laugh
On the other hand, if it's a constructive comment, i reply and settle it with the reader. That being said, i think there are just some people on the internet that have no other purpose than to attack posts and opinions just for the sake of commenting on the post and such people should not be given any ounce of attention or notice
Great post Streetz