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Dear SBM,
I just want to know why men cheat after begging a woman to take them back? And does he think that because she took him back that she’ll put up with it? My coworker was telling us about an argument he had with the mother of his baby in which he ended by telling her that he’s not changing. I could see where her anger was coming from to a degree, I mean he did cheat on her so she was expecting him to be grateful that she took him back, but women’s intuition also tells me that she expected him to miraculously turn into a new person. Just some background for you, he admits to having side pieces throughout their entire relationship (including her pregnancy) and they broke up a few months after the baby was born because she found some evidence of his indiscretions. They got back together a few months ago but he still says that he’s cheating and will continue to do so as long as he wants. From the way he describes their current relationship, it seems as though he has gotten even more comfortable and offers no apologies for his behaviors in and out of the house. Of course, I realize that I have only really gotten half of these stories and he could just be exaggerating, but I doubt it. Why does a cheater even want to be in a relationship if he’s decided that he’s not going to be faithful? And does it signal to him that he can continue to cheat if a woman takes him back?
I’ll start off by quoting some statistics for context. I read a story earlier this year that estimated between 15 percent of women and 20 percent of men are unfaithful. Women are less likely to get caught. Ninety-five percent of women and 83 percent of men reported they “successfully” cheated without their spouses ever finding out. These are married people so who knows how desolate the landscape of relationships and pseudo-relationships looks. I only point this out to note that there are a number of unfaithful people among us and many of them will never get caught (or so they believe). Specific to your friend’s situation, you seem to have two main questions:
1) Why does a cheater even want to be in a relationship if he’s decided that he’s not going to be faithful? 2) Does it signal to him that he can continue to cheat if a woman takes him back?
Why do cheaters cheat?
Women like to believe that they have a more sophisticated justification behind when and why they cheat – and it’s very possible they do. However, cheating is cheating so I’m not sure why folks are so caught up on being the morally superior in their immoral actions. That said, I’ll focus today on why I believe most men cheat.
While a lot of people have asked a similarly phrased question, I think this is the equivalent of asking why do people look for work when they already have a job? Most cheaters are in a relationship for the exact same reasons as their partner. It’s very possible they sincerely believe they like/love the person they’re cheating on. Men cheat because they don’t understand or don’t care about the impact of their actions. It’s a selfish act. These men haven’t learned to think outside of themselves or even if they do, they don’t care enough to stop.Although people attempt to confuse the two, whether or not you believe monogamy is natural is independent from the fact that the rules governing a monogamous relationship are pretty straight forward. Cheating is a conscious choice to break those rules.
Some people believe that if you truly love a person you would never cheat on them. I disagree, because that belief dictates that emotion is what drives people to cheat or remain faithful. In reality, there is far more logic involved in not cheating than emotion. I think we can all agree that Love is an emotion. Given the large number of people that cheat on their loved ones each and every day of the week, it is obviously not enough to stop people from cheating. That’s where logic comes into play. Love might keep you in a relationship, but it’s logic that keeps you from straying, especially when you believe you won’t get caught. Someone told me recently that men are as faithful as their options. This is only somewhat accurate. Most men have options. Honestly, being in a relationship might increase a man’s options considering there are a certain group of women that like to go after committed men – but that’s another blog for another day.
Most unfaithful men aren’t seeking out an additional relationship. In fact, most men aren’t even looking to replace or give up the relationship they already have. Unfaithful men are generally only seeking to satisfy physical needs. There is a smaller group of men who are looking for a woman to satisfy something they’re not getting at home – usually something ego based – but even these men are rarely looking to leave the woman they’re with. Going back to the job analogy, if a man has a job (or woman) that meets all of his basic needs except for one or two extras, he really has no motivation to leave this great job simply to go back out into the job market (dating scene).
In 9 out of 10 cases, men aren’t looking to replace the woman they already have. The exception would be if he meets another woman that clearly supersedes the woman he is already with. This is rare for a few reasons: 1) if you’re already in a relationship, it’s difficult to get to know another woman beyond the physical; 2) the woman he is already with has a head start because he’s familiar with her in his life; and 3) the only thing more amazing than how long some women will stay with an unfaithful man is how long a side-woman is willing to remain in the side-woman role.
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Are men’s reasons for cheating any different than women’s? Why would a man that knows he’s going to be unfaithful want to be in a relationship? Do you believe that once a cheater always a cheater? If not, what makes a cheater change and how can women tell the difference between a cheater who has reformed versus a cheater who is in remission?
1. Doubt it. At least not for the women I know. Whenever they cheat, they basically have the same reasoning I…ur…men do.
2. Well, if we're discussing the selfishness of the cheater, it makes perfect sense. Selfish men want everything. So if he knows he's already going to cheat, it really doesn't make a difference. He's got a girl who does everything…and he's got his side chick to take care of the extra.
3. Depends on the person. Some people well never be able to not cheat. Some people just aren't mature enough to handle "real" relationships.
4. The only thing that can make a "cheater change" is him/herself. Has to be an internal process and they have to want to. Same with any other 'personality' trait.
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I know of no person that goes into a relationship saying "I'm going to cheat on this person."
theres plenty who know they not ready for a relationship but get in one anyway…thats how it starts
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@Animate, I do. But to be more accurate, I know a few people that go into a relationship with the mindset of "I have no intention to be faithful to this person."
#also….I've had friends (only a couple, though) literally say that when they get married they know they're going to cheat…soooo there's that *shrugs*. I just smh and nod.
My last boyfriend was a cheater, i found out and i decided to stay with him (i was 22- go figure). One day we were having an argument about me checking his facebook inbox, emails, etc and i was tell him that privacy is something he forfeited by choosing to cheat. He turned around and told me, i cant hold it over his head forever and anyway i had chosen to stay with him. I cant really remember the rest, but once a choice is made- good or bad there are consequences that follow. In the arena of cheating- the choices are usually very difficult to deal with- especially for the one cheated on. I decided to end the relationship later because i couldnt trust him and frankly because i'd made a poor choice initialy. I wasnt built with the stuff one needs to wait for a philandering man to change his ways.
In this lady's situation, she must hold on to the words of Maya Angelou "The first time someone shows you who they are, believe them". In this instance he has told her who he is, she better believe him and leave him!
"One day we were having an argument about me checking his facebook inbox, emails, etc and i was tell him that privacy is something he forfeited by choosing to cheat. "
That's the biggest load of crap, i've ever heard. I tell all men that if they find themselves in this situation, just break up with her. If you're going to trust someone, you have to do it without passwords and unlimited access.
After someone cheats in a relationship, if parties decide to work things out, you have to realise trust has been broken. One of the factors of restoring broken trust is openness, which -in my book- means unlimited access to everything.
However, I do agree that this situation is untenable and it is in both parties interests to terminate the relationship immediately.
Actually, I have to side with J. I cheated on a girl once and she tried to implement that "well now I'll treat you like a dog for the rest of forever" rule and it just didn't work. You can't forgive someone with stipulations. There's no separate set of rules that should be established. You either forgive them or you don't. If you dont, then the relationship just needs to end.
I don't agree with that. When you break someone's trust it is up to YOU to earn that back. If that means for her that you are transparent that that's what you do if you want to be with her.
All good. Agree to disagree.
But, given that line of reasoning, I guess I don't want to be with her. If you don't trust me, you just don't trust me. What we have is both a lack of trust and therefore a lack of a relationship. If y'all think you can be the girlfriend and the parole officer of a successful relationship, I respectfully wish yall the best in your future endeavours.
Granted they cannot be the girlfriend and the parole officer, but he cannot be the boyfriend and the secret agent.
Men and women operate differently, therefore you cannot treat women as though they should respond the way you would. It cannot be "I cheated. You forgave. Get over it." It has to be "I cheated. Thank you for forgiving me. How can we work to make our relationship better?"
As the person who messed up, you have to have at least have some bit of humility. No, she cannot go all psycho insecure and expect it to work. But he cannot go all psycho android with no feelings or compassion and expect it to work either.
I feel my message was either lost or un-clear somewhere in this thread. I'll end with this: To J's original point, if my Queen wants access to all my crap she can have access to all my crap. It's really not that big of a deal. The point I was making is if that wasn't the case beforehand, the rules don't change because you made the choice to forgive me. You don't become the morally superior maker of all rules of the relationship now because you forgave me – because that means you havent truly forgiven me.
To the original original point, if you can't get over it or don't feel like that trust can be gained back then, in my opinion, it's simply better to end the relationship. Seems like a pretty miserable existence for you to always be investigating me and me to always feel investigated. In that instance. I would personally dead the relationship and go our separate ways. I'd rather be alone and happy that in a relationship and miserable – which this existence y'all are ascribing to seems to now dictate.
What about in a marriage Wis? You can't just up and leave and walk away that easily. Well sometimes you can, but it can be a long and tedious process to completely seperate yourself from that person and divorce, (depending on which state you live in).
I agree with you. Someone I am ap in love with cheated on me and still lied when I found out we met at church. I found out April 1, 2013. Has suspected all along. Needed proof. He hasn't even offered am apology.
I agree with WidomIsMisery. I was married for 18 years and because my husband and I had so much history together after the first incident, We worked through it. After the second and possibly more (since our separation, information has just been dropping in my lap) I decided that while I loved him, I definitely loved me more, so I left. When my husband begged me for another chance (as he often did) I simply told him that I did not want to become that angry woman that I often see in situations like this. And I didn't want to be a part of a relationship where I had to check up on my partner or check every email, text etc. That's not a relationship, that life on probation. Cheating is an act of selfishness. When I asked my husband the proverbial "why", he simply stated that as a police officer, there was plenty of opportunities to do so. There, you have it.
Yes ma'am. I can't say I immediately thought I would leave my marriage over cheating. For better or worse and all that jazz. Plus, I loved him.
But the day I was with my husband and saw a woman that he just glanced at and wondered, "is that one of his hoes?" I knew that my marriage was over cause I was not about to live my life wondering if every woman I looked at had been with my husband. I didn't get married for that.
Agreed, I'd venture to tell ladies the same. If you NEED passwords and unlimited access the damage is done and you're looking at a downhill slope of insecurity. Just leave before you become "that girl".
im glad you said this because I didn't even have the time to comment on that BS
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I think if both parties decide they want to rebuild trust in the relationship, then that person should be completely open and understand that the privacy he/she once enjoyed isn't guaranteed. I personally wouldn't want to go through a man's email, facebook, and so on if he cheated and I decided to take him back. But, if he really wants to reconcile, I would like the option. If I see that he no longer locks his phone or he leaves his email open, I won't feel compelled to look, but I will recognize that he's trying to show me that he's open and he has nothing to hide.
@Young; i agree with that view point. I
IMO that's like saying if someone is talking on the phone next to you, you're not going to listen. I'm honestly not that big of a person. I want to trust what he does with that privacy, not take it away like a child on punishment. If I need an option to see what's going on, I'm just going to end the relationship.
I agree.. I think people are missing the point here — what it's really about now is demonstrating "Accountability" it isn't so much about taking away that person's privacy, playing inspector gadget; but if a couple is 100% sure on trying to make amends often times the cheater will now basically have to be willing to CHECK IN, be accountable for whatever it is that the partner may have asked of him or her, this is what couples are told often during counseling, they have to regain that person's trust.
So if a woman was the cheater should she be willing to to the same? How do you determine the trust trial period? What happens if the person who cheated gets exhausted with trying to prove themselves?
(I've never had to deal with it so this is intriguing to me.)
I put my self in a situation like that. I cheated, and we decided to work it out. He didn't ask me to unlock my phone or give him every password to every social media site I'm connected to. However, i took it upon myself to let him know what I'm up to and who i'm talking to, and all locks and passwords are gone. I agree with @girlsixx.. it's about demonstrating accountability. I knew what I did was wrong and I did everything I thought probably contributed to the lack of trust.. If someone honestly wants to fix their relationship, they won't punish the person, well at least not intentionally. It takes work on both ends. People who take cheaters back should also realize if you make that decision, you have to work on building trust just as the person who broke it has to work on regaining it. It's a team effort.
like your comment and also think it's not the 'need to check up', but rather the need for openness and transparency that removes the need for the betrayed to ask/question when they are feeling insecure. The privacy and passwords etc were there in the first place and that trust was abused. If secrets, passwords, and private phone calls continue nothing has changed and it will not help to rebuild trust or the relationship.
If there is openness and honesty the 'paranoia' will eventually fade; this is about the cheater earning the trust back. They have to recognise and understand the damage and hurt they have caused and be willing to repair it, that can only be through complete openness and honesty, and I don't mean accounting for every minute, every phone call, and checking all emails etc, there needs to be a balance. If they don't want to repair the damage and insist on maintaining the same degree of privacy that they abused in the first place, they should leave the relationship as there is no remorse, no guilt, and no intention of repairing the damage they caused.
Men and women cheat for the same reason, added perks to their own relationship. The perks however tend to differ between men and women, i know men who cheat because they just want different women, i know women who cheat because they like the attention from someone else. But roles reverse just as often.
I dont believe once a cheater always a cheater because we mature and evolve throughout our lives. Reformed cheaters are accountable first and foremost. They own up to their mistakes and don't blame the alcohol, the side piece or their partner. They are sorry for the act not that they were caught up.
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With seven brothers, one thing rings true. Men cheat because they can, most aren't held accountable and they stop when they mature.____Nuff said.
Had an interesting conversation about this yesterday. It was argued that men and women cheat for different reasons. More specifically, women cheat because of something missing in the relationship emotionally more so than the guy isn't putting it down in the sheets or they're just cheating because they can. The man may not be meeting a deeper need (pause), so she may start communicating with someone outside the relationship and that starts as emotional cheating…which then leads to the physical. It was also argued that the men in those relationships are more responsible for women cheating because they've clearly ignored a need that's been conveyed them — often repeatedly.
I don't necessarily agree with that, because at the end of the day, both parties are responsible for getting undressed, putting their left foot in and doing the hokey pokey. Someone doesn't drive someone to cheat because that person always has the option of breaking up instead of taking their carnal talents elsewhere.
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It was also argued that the men in those relationships are more responsible for women cheating because they've clearly ignored a need that's been conveyed them — often repeatedly.
Yeah, I hate that line of reasoning and I've heard it quite often. It presumes that women's cheating is always justified and generally someone else's fault other than their own. In other words, when a man cheats it's his fault and when a woman cheats it's his fault. I guess…
I agree with this line of thought. A man, in my book is responsible to his wife
1. To Protect
2. To Provide
3. To INSPIRE fidelity in her (esp. in 2012)
4. To provide her org@sms
5. To make sure keep keeps her weight in check.
Since so many people choose to cheat, instead of just leave be it a marriage or relationship, it seems that leaving really isn't an option for a lot of people. At least this is how many people feel.
Yeah, I think some men cheat when they are in their immaturity stage of life. Also, I think some men cheat because of the notion that several is better than one.. I will say that when a man, who is a cheater, matures, he can definitely become reformed. You want put yourself in situations where you can be tempted and you look at life in a totally different sphere.
People do why they want to do. Men cheat because they want to and for the most part they can cheat without any repercussions . Personally in a lot of relationships ( not marriages ) where the man is cheating , most of the time he’s with his ” gf for convenience ” so he feels like he doesnt have anything to lose by cheating because she’s going to stick around . A lot of women talk a big game but theyre usaully in a relationship with a man who their more into than he is into them, so while she might bit*h and moan she’s not going anywhere. If anything now she’s proving herself self conscientiously to him that she’s better than the other chick, instead of him proving to her that he deserves to still be in a relationship with her.
Men also tend to stick with their guns in a relationship . If he said cheating is a deal breaker , there’s more than an 85% chance that he’s dead serious and will not take you back if you cheat. Women ( if their not strong with in themselves) will catch a dude cheating , curse him out, kick him out, start missing him, get lonely, start thinking its all her fault he cheated and take back his sorry behind apology .
I think a man that cheated in the past can change if “THEY WANT TO” . It has to be a personally choice. I also think more men and women need to be honest about if sexual monogamy is something they can handle in a relationship . For some ppl it won’t work. I know couples who understand that and they act accordingly . Maybe the guy and girl are both into females so they bring a third party into the mix every once in a whole to feed the need. Again men and women need to ask each other these honest question before they dedicate themselves to each other.
Women: every man can’t be sexually monogamous . That doesn’t make them bad men, it’s the lying and deceit that makes them bad. Stick to your guns, don’t let any man , loneliness or whatever make you feel that requesting sexual monogamy in your relationship is unreasonable or a bad thing.
Men: if sexual monogamy is what you request of your lady, please be able to follow the rules you’ve set out for your partner. And expect the same consequences . If you know sexual monogony with a particular lady isn’t possible, don’t get serious with her, tell her your not ready to go to that level and save yourself the trouble
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"Cheating is a CHARACTER FLAW"….just like lying, stealing, etc. That is it, and that is all.
I agree. Get it under control. Everybody has the choice to do right and wrong.
this is bad logic that is incongruent with human biology. If "cheating" is a flaw, then there has to be evidence of a time in human history where men were completely faithful to one woman. As a marriage and family therapist i can tell you there is no such period of time where you will find such a caviat. The issue I have with these types of conversations is that idealogy is treated as a standard when in fact its simply an ideal. All HUMAN/Homosapiens are inherently selfish, Its the way we are designed, The idea of sharing,caring and putting other needs before your own…thats a learned behavior,,which in turn is the actual character flaw,,,,,,but its easier to hold people to the ideal standard of human interaction, then to understand what we truely are
Actually it is you that is guilty of bad logic. Allow me to demonstrate in a simple example, applying your own logic to another behaviour viewed negatively by a majority of modern society: the killing of humans, by other humans.
If 'murdering' is a flaw, then there has to be evidence of a time in human history where humans were completely non-violent in all their human-human interactions. Since you will also find no period in time in which no killings occured either within, or between human groups, it is therefore not a flaw to be a murderer.
"Someone told me recently that men are as faithful as their options. This is only somewhat accurate."
i don't think this is accurate at all. i know plenty of men (myself included) who have plenty of options. i've never cheated on the majority of my girlfriends. that anecdote basically says men have no control over their primal urges and have no self-control. smh
with that said i'd be lying if i said i've never cheated on a girlfriend. sh*t happens and i'm not going to get into the reasons why or how i cheated but i definitely don't believe in once a cheater, always a cheater. no one is always one thing.
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That phrase was popularized by Chris Rock. It was funny in context, but not applicable in general. Any guy who is above a 5.5 on the attractiveness scale, is middle class and a decent guy has options. The point of fidelity is self-control, not opportunity.
I agree with both of you in disagreement with that phrase. It's good to see men refute this and i think men should be offended that society thinks that men are just wired to LACK reasoning and self control when it comes to women.
Self-control is not even apart of the equation. Marriage is an instution that has been around for centuries. And every culture, generation from B.C. to A.D. has viewed marriage the same except the last two generations in America (key word: america) if you ever travel outside the U.S. the thoughts and ideas about marriage is so different, the idea that self control being raised as a issue begs the question why is there a control on how many women a man can have or how many men a woman can have. Wake up people…you can easily trace this social agenda to the macarthy era in this country 1953. but majority will continue to discuss this topic as if there is a final solution. And there is…to thy own self be true. If you want to be with multiple partners there are people who share your sentiment…have at it, If you want a mate for life like a penguin,,there are people who share your sentiment. Where a name tag and find a match…
Caesar20417: "Self-control is not even apart of the equation."
The topic of discussion here is "Why do men cheat?" Of course self-control is part of the equation, because it keeps you from cheating.
Whether or not monogamy should be socially accepted is a totally different equation. You're solving a different problem.
3) the only thing more amazing than how long some women will stay with an unfaithful man is how long a side-woman is willing to remain in the side-woman role.
Amen to that!
People cheat and the "reasons" are complex. In reality, there really is no "reason" to deceive. People just give in to desire instead of leaving or trying other options.
I cannot understand why a person that is not ready to be monogamous even attempt a relationship. I learned recently that although you can change your mind about something, if the heart doesn't change, the change will not be permanent. Changing your heart is harder and that is why most change only when something happens to facilitate the change.
I do not believe once a cheater always a cheater because I believe people can change given the right circumstances. As far as a women being able to tell if the man is a cheater vs. a reform cheater….she needs to just see the truth and take it from there. Telling yourself lies just to get by will catch up with you. Some women are able to deal with men they KNOW cheat. These women at least are honest with themselves. Maybe that truth set them free to deal with the relationship on their own terms.
After years of “research” I will say this….if more women would stop using s*x (or lack of) as a punishment less men would cheat.
Additionally if more people in general would end relationships they are unhappy in less people in general would cheat. But as WIM said when you have a great job its really hard to just quit and go out into the job market over a few “minor” details but truly its your best option to find happiness.
Also I have found that if a man is cheating chances are the woman I’m the relationship is also unhappy….beyond the fact that her man is cheating on her….
1) I can't speak for men so I don't know. I will say that every man who has cheated on me has done so with a woman who was my complete physical opposite, who burns water and has nothing in common with them on an emotional level. Take from that what you will about the "needs" they were fulfilling. As for me, I'm one of those random anomaly's that would actually break up with you before I cheat. I just don't have the patience.
2) Ego.Men like that believe they deserve it all. Just ask Mr. Woods. Also, in some careers being single is frowned upon. Ask any politician.
3) No. People cheat for as many reasons as they get into relationships. The only habitual cheaters are those that have narcissistic traits, so you can easily tell them by their lack of general empathy for every situation but their own. In their case, they'll have a million excuses why everything they've ever done wrong was someone else's fault.
"2) Ego.Men like that believe they deserve it all. Just ask Mr. Woods. Also, in some careers being single is frowned upon. Ask any politician. "
This is an interesting and undertalked about perspective. Many times being in a relationship or married is more or less a symbol of status to a certain degree when dealing with various groups. A generation or two ago it was harder for a man to obtain a bank loan if he was single than married b/c clearly a married man had more morals and therefore a higher ability to pay back the loan.
To the political point have you known any President in recent history to not have a wife? Hell, or kids for that matter. How important is it in politics to have a significant other? Two words: Bill Clinton.
Hm. My husband cheated on me with strippers. I am not a stripper. I don’t look like a stripper. My husband is/was also the nerdy guy who didn’t get women in high school, who came into his own later. I suppose what he got from cheating was the feeling of being wanted by lots of “sexy” women? I don’t know. I didn’t get into all that, he can discuss with his counselor or his God.
I agree that the key here is choices not options. We all have options. But just because you HAVE options don’t mean you have to take advantage of all the options available to you at any given time. Be a person of your word. It’s not easy to end a relationship or fix a relationship, but that’s got to be easier than hurting someone you supposedly love and care about, right?
I probably shouldn't go down this route, but when you say he cheated with strippers…
Do you mean he met strippers in the strip club and then carried on relations (sex) with them outside of the club? Or like, if he went to a party where there were strippers he carried on relations (sex) outside of the gentleman's night?
I only ask because some women consider a lap dance to be cheating, and i'm always trying to figure out the sense of logic there.
I always question that. Seriously, I ask men, because I can never get a consistent answer.
Now, say you don't consider receiving a lap dance cheating. If I was your wife, and I gave another man a lapdance (which would, admittedly be less extreme, as I would not be removing clothing), or even got a lil' extra on the dance floor with a stranger, would you consider that out of pocket?
My first response: what you do on your own time is your own business.
My second response: Your example isn't remotely related. Assuming you know I went to a gentlemen's clubs, you also know I'm going to engage in some non-gentlemen-like activities. If you don't want me to get a lap dance, just ban me from the club. Don't permit me to go then get mad at what I do there – within reason. You going to a regular club and giving a man a lap dance =/= the same as me going to a gentlemen's club where lap dances are part of the implied reason I'm even there (granted not all clubs do lap dances). That said, you do you BUT don't let me catch you on Instagram/Cinemagram because then, YOU GOIN TA JAIL NOW!
See, I'm of the "don't do anything you'd send me ta jail fo'"school of thought (it should be noted that I really don't care about lap dances) BUT..going to a strip club involves watching, which I have no issue with. Getting a LAP DANCE involves touching & deliberate intent, and what's good for the goose. It could be argued that acting a fool is the reason people go to a club (not lounge) as well, hence the = in my book. Again, I don't care, but I can see women's logic in the matter.
I guess I just dont understand the logic. That's like me saying "it's ok for you to go the buffet BUT I BET NOT CATCH YOU EATING THE FOOD" ….that makes no sense. If you're not ok with the 'Buffet Club' then just say THAT. Don't pretend like you're ok with the buffet but you don't like what goes on in the buffet line. That's a #WomanSwindle if I've ever heard of one. I've date quite a few women who don't like me going to the gentlemen's club but at least they're honest and upfront about it. I prefer that, as in the truth, than "yeah I'm ok with you going" when you are really 1) not ok; or 2) you have so many rules and regulations about me going there is no point in me going "you can go to the strip club but you have to have your eyes closed at all times and no women are allowed to touch you" ….chill
Strip clubs and buffets just don't mix, man. They just don't mix.lol
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But to the general issue at hand, I'll assume my Queen is a grown woman and she can conduct herself as such. I'm not the FDA, FBI, CIA, or Sally Mae. I don't have time to follow you around and regulate your activities like a federal investigator. If you're my woman, I trust you to act right at all times, not just the times when I'm around or you think you might get caught. If you don't know how to act right, you better know how not to get caught. But the real issues in my eyes is if I've chosen a woman that doesn't know how to act right – when I'm present or not present – that's equally reflective of me as it is of her.
But how is paying a nekkid woman to rub up on you acting right? …asking for a friend.
I feel
youyour friend are playing both sides of the fence. First you say it's ok for him to go to a place where nekkid women rub on men for payment but now you're saying it's not ok for said man to pay said nekkid woman to rub. If you have a problem with what goes on in the club then I really don't understand whyyouyour friend is even pretending it's ok for the man to go – when clearlyyoushe feels like it is not. All WIM is asking for is some honesty. I'd be far more annoyed by the woman who tells me something is ok when it's not than the woman that simply says how she really feels up front – and there would be no confusion by either one of us…or the nekkid woman.For the record, I've dated both types of women. You don't have to pretend like you're ok with an activity you're no ok with to keep WIM happy. If we're adults, lets act like adults – and that entails having adult-like conversations.
You have somebody at home who will rub all on you for free. Besides, women probably think it's just good enough to go. Just because you're there doesn't mean you HAVE to get the lap dance. AND, to make it a bit more graphic, how would you feel if your lady went out and let some dude rub his richard all over her even if it were his job and he did it for the money? I mean, I'm cool with you going and all but do you have to take it to that next level? Psshh. Just don't tell me about it.
I feel as if strip clubs are immoral all the way around. From the kind of men that regularly enjoy this type of setting, to the reasons why these girls are okay with being dehumanized. The hurt of actually having an affair has to do with the mind. All things wrong are born in the mind initially. When I was cheated on in the past, the hurtful part was not that he was pleasured, but that he was pleasured by someone other than me. This indicates that my man sexually left me. The best part about sex for me is the emotional closeness I feel when making love. If he is thinking of someone else, then I am just fooling myself. I maybe living in fantasy land, but these men who think that they can cheat and my love will be waiting is living in fantasy land too.
"Don't permit me to go then get mad at what I do there – within reason."
Basically!!
YOU GOIN TA JAIL NOW!
It is uppercuttin' season negroes.
Right now, there is some husband saying that to his wife of 27 yrs now that the kids have left for school.
LMAO
It's the same bro.
Receiving a lap dance isn't cheating in my book. I try to look at it by comparing apples to apples. If my woman is attending a male review and one of the uhh…entertainers is giving her some personal time doing whatever dance they do…lap dance or whatever, then I have absolutely no problem with that. I understand the context of the situation and the intent. She's probably there with her homegirls for entertainment purposes, not to find another man, and the intent is not malicious.
Your example, in my opinion, is an apples to oranges, in my opinion…..unless you were a stripper in the first place then that's a different conversation b/c clearly I knew what I was getting into, lol. The context of you giving another man a lap dance and the intent is all over the place with ambiguity. Just one man's thoughts.
Open Main Room Lap Dance =/= cheating.. IMO.
If your man is going to a strip club there’s a 50% chance he may just get a open room/public lap dance, I don’t see the big deal with this if women claim they are cool with their men attending strip clubs in the first place. #confused Now with that being said The Champagne Room *record scratch* I know what goes down in there, this is something I would have a trust issue with but then again you NEVER KNOW. *shrug*
I can def agree with this @GirlSixx. *leaping high five*
I also agree that the line should be drawn at the Champagne / Private Room (granted I'm making these names up from what I heard from my friends *cough*) because, as you said, that's a different set of rules. I agree with all you said, 115%
He met strippers in the strip club and had sex with them outside of the club.
Can't wait to read the comments, but it seems like WIM is the resident expert on infidelity
1. a man cheating =/= to a woman cheating. Men can cheat & still love the main girl. It is only problematic is HE LOVES his side girl more than the main girl and/or if he not DISCREET.
2. A woman cheats, its the beginning of the end. And the child could not be yours.
The woman in question SHOULD be thankful that her baby's father is willing to be with her when he clearly has options. The fact that she bore his child is a privilege.
Wisdom is looking like Heath Ledger's Joker as far as writing topic & performance
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Cheating is rough topic. If folks are honest with themselves, men cheat for a variety of reasons, just as women do. The outliers can't be disregarded just because they aren't the main reasons. I've been the cheater and cheatee and my reasons were just as inexcusable as my girl's at the time. If men feel like theyare missing something, they'll cheat. I know a few women who cheated just because they could. It ain't right for either sex to do it, but that isn't to say that they'll stop. If more people were committed to their relationships, and willing to put in the work needed to maintain it, maybe it'd be less cheating going on.
Haters gon' hate and Cheaters gon' Cheat, i agree with that One hundred percent. But Men cheat because they are either Bored, they are SERIAL Cheaters (They need Help) lol or they are just not into their Partner/Girl at the time. Cheating is a deal breaker with me…..i mean once you cheat and get away with it then you feel as if you can do it again, then again, then again but if you are serious about making things right, morally you'll find the will power to stop……but other than that just be HONEST from the get go!!!!
Whew! I really thought this article was going to set me off because I detest cheaters and hate the excuses people use to justify it (particularly men). If someone cheats it's because they want to and/or allowed themselves to lose control. Keep it in check and there'll be none.
Immediately, had to call ask if he goes to the champagne room or private rooms #menaive…Geesh!!
Wo(men) or Men cheat on you because the consequences are accepted BY BOTH. Loosing you is no big deal TO THE CHEATER. If I am cheating I don't see you as a number 1, i see you as a THE IN THE MEAN TIME GUY. I got DECENT sex , someone to hang and go out with… but when i see someone that i prefer than you im GONNA TEST THAT out AND IF ITS BETTER THAN YOU IM OUT IF NOT ILL STAY!!!… Why do you want to be that person that is cheated on… u forgive me. really? so why you checking my phone, my email, listening if im talking to my girlfriend or a dude.. why you STILL accusing me of cheating? I thought you forgave me?…… this is the main reason when someone cheat on your butt you need to LEAVEEEEEEEE… FORGIVE EM BUT LEAVEEEEEE!!!!!! ((((((fyi.. ive never cheated on anyone..just trying to make a point….if i want to sleep with someone else, i sure done want to sleep with you… just me.. i hope we got individual thinkers left in society)))))
Do you believe that once a cheater always a cheater? If not, what makes a cheater change and how can women tell the difference between a cheater who has reformed versus a cheater who is in remission?
Was just talking to a friend about cheating in relationships. I realized I could care less. Cheat on me if you want, just make sure not to call me after. I don't necessarily believe 'once a cheater, always a cheater' but I don't date guys that have cheated in the past. I'm sure a guy can reform but I've never cheated. I honestly don't feel like dealing with the psychological battle my brain would do in relation to a 'previous cheater.' That probably makes me sound like some type of person with lots of assumptions and judgment but its made my life less stressful so I don't particularly care. I do what I do for my own sanity not because I think the person is 'bad.'
I do find it funny that some guys outright say they don't see themselves being faithful to one women but are yet entirely adverse to an open relationship/open marriage. Seems like everyone wins to me. No one is cheating. Everyones 'other needs' are being met. Seems like a pretty sweet deal. Eh. Who am I.
Lol Amen its been said.
Im going to answer this as a woman cheater. I didnt really start getting attention from guys until I was 16 or 17. I took it an ran with it. Its a self esteem thing on my end. The grass is greener, or in my instance, cuter, or funnier, or funner, has a bigger you-know-what, and my goodness interested in me!I used to lack the matmaturity to understand that was I was missing was self satisfaction. So now I dont date. I know I am seeking great pastures, but I also feel like the right person will come along that will make me feel as if I dont want or need anything else. Im having fun but im not looking for a relationship. I will no when I am ready with the right person, and am sparing anybody else the pain of my impulsivity and bad decisions.
Men cheat for various reasons… But for some it isn't just for sexual gratification but to replace something they aren't getting at home. So yes, they might be lacking physical intimacy, emotional intimacy… and believe it or not many men do desire those and not just a lay. We express our love physically via sex and feel loved and appreciated in turn.
Marriages can have issues with lack of intimacy on the part of the wife… coupled with other marital issues like money, work ethic, poor housekeeping, etc making a man feel unhappy and very unappreciated… then those men won't just cheat for the sex… they will fill that void with a full blown love affair.
I know… I'm one of those men. I do blame myself for I decided to do. I also blame my wife…Years of discussions, threats of it, marriage counseling did nothing to her attitude towards intimacy. So yes, I do blame her in part.
Greg, glad I read your post. It just helped me.
im unhappy im gonna sleep around.. Boohoo.. Stop blaming ur wives rather end the relationship.. Men like u give others a bad name.
my boyfriend is a cheater…. point blank. however i have never step out side the relationship to cheat , i felt that he was all i needed. 10yrs. almost 11yrs. i can't take his cheatin ways anymore. know he says " I told you that i wasn't ready for marriage' ,excuse me i didn't say marriage. i hate that he is a cheater, he's a good man , but also damage goods. Karma hurts. YET I'm still in love with him
i am sorry! i have the same thing happening to me!
After 18 years my man hasn’t changed ..I feel like he’s continually looking for women to be with. He has cheated 3 times I know of and has hit on everyone in town. I recently found out he has signed up with dating web sites. Some people have sex addictions and can’t stop themselves. To me it makes no difference in my situation because I’ve tried and tried and actually quit looking and checking every move. I had a sick feeling one day and looked..there it was txt that said “good morning ” and two days later emails from websites and a drafted email saying “hey gorgeous, how r u today ” realize it’ll never stop…NEVER..I’m not living my life like this ..thanks for reading
I got cheated on, took my ex back then after 4 years he left me for a new girl he cheated on and blamed me, and lied about even being with her, till I caught him in a lie. But he’s playing the victim this time around. He has avoidance issues and can’t communicate, which is why I get mad when people say if you’re gonna cheat just leave the person. I DISAGREE…if you’re gonna cheat talk to your partner about what’s missing in the relationship or want your feeling, not just dump them after all the history you have for a simple selfish act you may or may not regret.
Communicate, not leave, not cheat. Seems like people nowadays want an easy way out. It’s so easy to cheat and leave your partner when you don’t want to face them. My ex leaving me hurt more than him cheating because I was left with so many unanswered questions and wanted to know what he was lacking in our relationship. I’m not bitter just sad that he took a cowards way out and couldn’t come to me so we could figure out why he may not be happy etc.
And the girl he left me for knew we were a couple living together, I told her. And once I confronted him and told him I reached out to her, that’s when he started blaming me. Funny thing is he was planning out future then a week later started cheating, I could tell, guess he wanted a last fling, grass is greener before committing but I caught him. His actions and knowing about his childhood shows me he’s a cheater because he’s not happy with himself and needs attention and a constant ego boost. He will need therapy and willingness to change before he stops cheating, and a woman who gets with a man that was just in a relationship is getting all the baggage because he never worked it out with thee last partner, same for female cheaters….it all boils down to lack of communication and fear of being honest with your partner. Instead of cheating or leaving, just be single and date. Don’t invest years into a relationship then say I’ll leave because I want to cheat now. Just date different people and work on your issues instead dragging someone else into your selfish tendency.
I dont think all men are cheaters. i just had a case morgens situation the man that i was living with was cheating on me for several months with his ex-girlfriend neither of us new that he was cheating on both of us anf his only excuse was that he did it because he assumed that i was cheating on him too…he found my past mistakes as an as a reason to excused his selfish action. His the type pf guy that has block me from his facebook, hides his phone and disappeares on certain periods of the day.So last christmas thats what i got as a present the news that he was cheating on me…it broke my heart into pieces but i know the other female is not any better than me…..up to this point he hasnt been fully honest with me and that only means one thing that he hasnt end his side relationship but at this point nothing cant hurt me more than what he already did all i can say is that he is doing me a favor i just feel sorry for the other female lets see if she puts up with the physical and emotional violence and paying all the bills cause the guy thinks females are slaves.
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To say, I love you as long as you only sleep with me is to love conditionally. Granted, I'll love you as long as you don't murder someone is also a reasonable condition, but sleeping with someone else doesn't truly affect anyone but the people in bed. Monogamy is selfishness, plain and simple. I'ts more about the arrangement than the love. Stop worry about who is sleeping with who and focus on the quality of your connections. This is love truly is.
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What a beautiful and wonderful testimony some time things you don't believe can just happen.
My name is Cherry Johnson from U.S.A am 25 years old i got married at the age of 23 i have only one child and i was living happily .After one year of my marriage my husband behavior became so strange and i don't really understand what was going on, he packed out of the house to another woman i love him so much that i never dream's of losing him, i try my possible best to make sure that my husband get back to me but all to no avail i cry and i cry seeking for help i discussed it with my best friend and she promise to help me he told me of a man called Dr Fred he is a very great man and a real man that can be trusted and there is nothing concerning love issues he cannot do that is why they call him Dr Fred. I contacted his email address at ([email protected]) And i told him everything that happen all he told me is that i should not worry that all my problems will be solved immediately. He told me what to do to get my husband back and i did, he said after 3days my husband will come back to me and start begging, it really happen i was very surprise and very, very happy our relationship was now very tight and we both live happily again. So my advice for you now is to contact this same email address ([email protected]) if you are in any kind of situation concerning love issues and any other things that give you problems.
THANKS..
Hello to the general public. My name is Sofia from California. I was in
doubt for so many spell caster on the internet until i met Priest ehor
that help me bring back my ex-lover back and we are happily married now, he
cast a spell for me and my lover for a good job also. Now we are working in
one of the biggest company in California. Thanks to Priestehor for you
are really a true spell caster. You can contact him for your solution today
via email:[email protected] or call him on +2347035825346.
I am miss Alicia. I live in a scattered life with my ex. Because he always get me beaten everyday. Now i have 2 kids for him. But now he left us to new york in search of a lady. I never new he was on a love spell attack. It really touches me. I cried everyday for him. But one day my best friend i have came to visit me and i laid everything that happen between i and him to her. She took me to a man. He is a witch doctor. He consulted his powerful oracle and told me not to worry that after 3 days he will come begging me. It really works. After the 1 day i met him on our door step crying and begging me that he made a mistake. That i should forgive him. I really did. And we were back to our relationship again. Now i will use this medium to tell every one who find his or herself in this mess that he should contact him at ([email protected]) he will be glad to hear from you
Greetings to the general public. I am by name Dr.LAWREES.( the spell caster) I am a witch doctor who helps people retrieve back their husband or wife, boyfriend,girlfriend. I am well known as one of the best witch doctor across the whole full world. Is a gift from my father to help those that are in serious spiritual problem. With these great power my father impose on me i can cast out the evil spell on every individual. I am a from the accent Paris of Africa. I have a son called lele. He is also a witch doctor. But we are working in the same spell home. So if you want to cast out or you want your lover back please i will love you to dissolve your problem out by yourself by contacting us at: [email protected]
as soon as i receive your mail i will sent down my photo and how i help people out to you. Best regards
hope to hear from you soon
MY GREATEST HELP FROM DR LAREES
I don't know how to say this but this is a secret i like share on the internet on how i got my ex back from a great spell caster. my name is Bella my ex broke up with me 5 months ago, i felt incomplete i decide to contact a spell caster called Dr Lawrees to help me bring her back. and he brought her back to me within 48 hours and she is living with me but now i always think that she has no real love for me but i am still happy that she is right with me because i can't think of ever loosing her again. in case u still needs Dr lawrees help you can reach him on: [email protected]