And The Winner Is, America?

Four More Years

I have no idea how I feel about this election. Honestly, if I didn’t live in a swing state and there weren’t some other ballot measures that I was personally interested in at the local level, I might not have voted. I’ve never been one of those guys who believes, “you should vote for the best worst option.” If I don’t like either option, I’ll exercise my right to opt out just as quickly as I’ll exercise my right to choose between crap and worse crap. Personal philosophies aside, I just never quite found myself caught up in this election. By the time the third debate rolled around – which I didn’t watch – I had checked out. I knew who I was going to vote for by this point and being bombarded by commercials that did nothing to report the agenda of the actual candidate but instead focused more on tearing down the record of the other candidate honestly wore me out. By the time November 6th rolled around I was happier to celebrate the end of the election cycle more than I was moved to celebrate or chastise the victory of either candidate. However, I did manage to learn a few things about politics, the country, and myself this election cycle.

Regrettably, I Pay More Attention to Elections Now

I was talking to a coworker about this recently – and yes, I know talking about politics at work is akin to admitting you worship the devil between your other pastimes of kicking kittens and bullying small children, but it is what it is. As I get older, I may more attention to elections because I generally have more vested in the outcomes of elections. For example, if I was in college this election cycle I might have an interest in Pell Grants and taxes. As a 30-year-old man, I’m interested in Pell Grants, taxes, wars, healthcare, the economy, the state of America currently and the plan for America in the future and the list goes on and on. I imagine, as I get older, this list will only continue to expand not shrink.

This is regrettable because the only thing more pointless than trying to figure out a national politician’s honest stance on major issues is trying to figure out his opponent’s stance on major issues. At the end of a strenuous and more often than not ridiculous election cycle, I knew about as much about Mitt Romney’s plan for the next four years as I did Obama’s, which is to say not very much at all considering I have no idea what either one of them would/was going to do. Mitt Romney’s only downfall is he didn’t have the benefit of being president for the last four years and he flip flopped on issues more often than a fish out of water. This isn’t to say Obama presented any more of a clear cut plan but sadly, he didn’t have to. In almost two years of running for president in Mitt Romney’s case and looking to stay the incumbent in Obama’s case, about the only thing I know about either candidate’s plan is that the other guy thinks the other guy’s plan is horrible and will devastate America. Well, I learned that and Mitt Romney isn’t very good at arithmetic.

The Media is Dumb or Maybe I’m Dumb for Expecting More

I’m not old enough to confirm this but it is my understanding there was a time where you could turn on the news to receive fact based reporting on issues that mattered to the American people. I’m not saying this isn’t the case anymore. The media still delivers facts but it’s so convoluted, slanted, and generally misleading to whatever agenda they want to push that you have to watch (or heaven forbid, read) no less than three different sources to get the facts you used to – as I understand but cannot confirm – be able to get from one source. I’ve become so paranoid at this point that sometimes I will purposely read media from international sources (even though many “international sources” are owned by the same company as local sources) to make sure the “news” I’m reading is accurate and free of spin. It’s interesting that even things you would think would be concrete, such as numbers or race (anyone still remember Trayvon Martin?) can be misleadingly reported. I don’t completely blame the news outlets. I recognize they now operate in a 24-hour competitive cycle. In this environment, breaking incorrect news early is more important than breaking accurate news late. Nevertheless, excuse me if I’m jaded when “breaking news” consist of reporting the sun will rise in the east tomorrow simply so they can garner a few more clicks to their page view coffers each month. Of course, I don’t know what’s more troubling: that the media feels they have to report something trivial rather than only meaningful things or that quite a few people will in fact be rather shocked each and every morning to read a report that the sun rose in the east, yet again.

Either Polls Are Pointless or People Are Idiots

I was working with a statistician on a project once and he said two things about statistics that will haunt me for the rest of my life: 1) Numbers don’t lie, unless you ask them to; and 2) Most people use statistics as an alcoholic uses a light post – for support rather than illumination.

There is no such thing as a misleading poll. There is definitely such thing as a misleading methodology. It’s amazing to me that so-called reputable organizations can boldly release misleading polls and continuously not be taken to task for it. Then again, as I often retort with shrugged shoulders of apathy when a group of athletes is caught taking steroids; if everyone is cheating is anyone really cheating? Therefore, if all the news organizations are doing it are any of them really wrong? Stats are as easy to digest as they are easy to manipulate. I definitely understand why so many organizations want to use them, even if doing so is blatantly misleading. After all, fact checking is so 2008.

Specific to this election cycle, let’s face it, Obama lost the first debate. I’m talking about style wise, considering I couldn’t do much more than help but admire the straight faced lies Romney was able to tell about his own record. In fact, for at least 89-minutes of the 90-minutes he was on TV, I almost believed him, then I remembered I’m not an idiot. Regardless, we all know many politicians lie, such is the nature of elections: say what it takes to get into power, then do what it takes to stay in power. It wasn’t the bold faced lies that caught me off-guard. The widely swinging post-debate polls are what blew me away. Before the debate, Romney was down in many polls by almost double digits. Obama’s mediocre performance didn’t do him any favors, but even with that said, Romney spoke for approximately 44-minutes (his camp later admitting that he lied…ok, admitted later that he had to “clarify” many of his own points) and this swung the polls of likely voters to within single digits.

WHAT?!

I’ll admit – accuracy of content notwithstanding – Romney gave one of the best debate performances in the last 10 years and perhaps even 20 years. However, Romney had been running for political office for no less than six years. Obama had been president for four years. Regardless of how you feel about either candidate, it blows my mind that the future of the United States almost boiled down to a 44-minute speech. One speech. I don’t even have a punch line for that observation. I just want to let that marinate with you.

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Obama won and I’d love to celebrate and gloat as many of us did in 2008, but sadly I can’t bring myself to this time around. I don’t want to call myself jaded; I’d call myself practical. My expectations are tempered this time around, since I have learned from experience that the road ahead will be difficult to maneuver. I’m not blindly optimistic as I was guilty of almost four years ago. I see a country in the midst of some of the worst political stagnation I’ve ever witnessed, with over $15 trillion dollars in debt (not counting insufficient funded entitlements which pushes us closer to $30 trillion), unforeseen dangers of war and foreign unrest, students with trillion dollars in debt facing perhaps the next housing bubble crisis minus the asset, stagnated wages, no real immigration policy and a looming political showdown regarding the myth of the “fiscal cliff” that will undoubtedly only see more political hand wrangling, finger pointing and posturing before a real solution is reached on this and any number of other critical issues that don’t have the time on their side that many elected officials posses.

Despite these realities of life in America today, I remain hopeful for the future of this country and the direction we’re heading. While that isn’t saying a lot, it’s saying enough. This time I’m not looking for a president to lead us on a platform of idealistic promises of hope and change. Maybe, as the winner of this election’s slogan alludes to this time around, I’m just looking for someone to lead us #Forward with real solutions and real actions. No more, no less. We’ve got four more years. Let’s see if Barack Obama is the man for the job.

How do you feel this election year in 2012 versus how you felt in 2008? Where, if at all, did Obama fall short of your expectations; where did he exceed them? What are your hopes, visions, or expectations for the next four years?

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  • http://twitter.com/flipdascript28 @flipdascript28

    I agree with your opening. This entire election to me was like picking the shiniest of two turds. I constantly would say we need money, not litigation or more debt. Before this year i saw a lot of what was going on over in the federal/military side and a lot of things were cut and a lot of careers were cut short. As in jobs were cut. My job was essentially cut as well but i decided not to fight it. And from what i have observed, a lot of people put there vote with the right person but for all the wrong issues. I want to make money, i aspire to build wealth. I mean if i were a woman, i would be stupid not to vote for Obama. They stand to benefit the most as they have benefited for quite some time. But the men..get no love. From either side. The system is broken. And the white people who did not support Obama are going to blame blacks for this even though we don't hold voting numbers to really make the claim of "we voted him in" A lot of white people had to vote for him to make this possible.

    • LadyRazorback

      We will always be in debt no matter what as long as the Federal Reserve is in place.

      • http://twitter.com/flipdascript28 @flipdascript28

        Nothing to do with my comment, but ok.

        • LadyRazorback

          Actually it did, but ok.

        • http://twitter.com/flipdascript28 @flipdascript28

          nope.

  • Adonis

    My thoughts, congrats to all who voted for O. You got what you asked for. I think single sl*ts played a huge role. I am a bit bummed out

    But for "Black America", what exactly does Obama getting re-elected mean for Black America in general? What about on a personal level? For me, not much

    I feel like blacks are so happy to have a negro in the white house, it makes it hard to critique him to apply pressure if we as a collective are not getting are collective needs met.

    Time to hit the bricks again.

  • ebony

    really???? what a fucking mood killer…. how light skinned of you!

    • J. Crawford

      Hey, I'm light-skinned and not on the Pessimistic tip like other people. Our Black Community has TONS of work to do on ourselves and as pat of the U.S. population as well, not just Congress and the President

      • http://www.singleblackmale.org/author/wisdomismisery/ WisdomIsMisery

        +1

        Also, I’d add – and I hate that I have to constantly remind black people of this lol – Obama is President of the United States not President of Black America.

        • SMielz_920

          One thing I noticed about this election was that several interest groups brought their problems to the president, the public, congress etc… and demanded they were recognized (Gays, Women, Latinos). As a black woman my vote was based off of things like, Women’s Health rights, Equal pay, Student loan crisis, Job Creation, and education (for the most part). But as far as the issues that specifically affect the black community, neither party really addressed those. But can I really blame them when we don’t seriously bring them to the front line. I really hope young voters (especially black young voters) pay more attention to local and state government and get involved on that level and not just the presidential (executive) level.

    • http://www.singleblackmale.org/author/wisdomismisery/ WisdomIsMisery

      No country for a honeymoon period for an incumbent president mam. That’s like celebrating you found a stick during rising flood waters. Unless he’s Moses – which some black people seem to believe – it seems we still have a number of issues to address. The same issues from Nov 5th exist on Nov 7th last I checked.

      • http://stanoffewwords.wordpress.com Tristan.

        pretty much…like i said we basically are back 2010 with no election to worry about, time to get to work
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  • Mr. SD

    It was pretty clear to me during republican primaries Obama would win a second term. I actually thought Gingrich would be the nominee. Leading into the general election Obama's numbers were always ahead, even if it was by a small margin. I think what really sold me was voter suppression. The level of ignorance it took to create an argument just to disenfranchise voters sounded like nothing but fear. I laughed at republicans. In 2016 republicans will need to understand the complexion of our country is changing, and they will have to make the necessary adjustments in order to stay competitive. #Obama2012!

    • http://stanoffewwords.wordpress.com Tristan.

      the GOP has no leaders, Romney is essentially a nobody, he was a governor of massachusetts 6 years ago and won the nomination rather easily. His most vocal supporter, Donald Trump, another political nobody. Most GOP candidates this year branded themselves moderates (who took conservative money of course), where are the people who are going to say the republicans aren't gun toting, homophobic, immigrant hating, middle class suppressing people you think we are? Until then they wont win the white house, I'm a liberal anyway so i dont mind them failing

  • CLSmoove

    OK. It is extremely frustrating to hear so much criticism from people, especially black folk, and all what President Obama HAS NOT done. How about what he HAS done?? How many people came out to vote during the mid term election?… The individuals that make the laws are in congress… the other 535 people that help shape policy. Are yall as critical? do people even know who represents their district? do people even know what their district is? It sickens me that folk dont hold their congressional reps as accountable as the President. I sucks to see folk holding up signs that blatenly disrespect the President then hear black folk that not are not fully educated and engaged with public policy dismiss him kill me. After all this im not sure i would ever want to see a black person represent on a nation/global level. If i every run for off i damn sure wont expect any support. ____I agree that people should be critical of the president, but when you have a body of opposing individuals DISAGREE with everything this man says, with NO alternate plan… my cynicalness is going to be rightly placed.

    • http://www.singleblackmale.org/author/wisdomismisery/ WisdomIsMisery

      I actually agree with most everything you said (although most of it doesn’t apply to me personally). I would only disagree that I cannot criticize or more accurately have high expectations or the president, simply because he is black and I am black. Having our blackness in common does not exempt him or handicap me from expecting him to deliver on a number of intiatives as President of the United States. I’d have the same expectations for any president – black, white, asian, latino or a woman.

      • CLSmoove

        That is a fair statement and my comments were not a direct attack to you or your character. However I would think some of the undertone in the past four years would hit a nerve to black people. Not just you as individual, but did people hold other presidents to the same standard? I would think to a degree that with the differences in the american culture, black people would be able to relate to his barriers. I truly believe this man had dealt with a lot more than others because of who he is. I don't think his blackness is what should determine loyalty, but i think that his blackness would make us look into the situation a little more carefully and not as judgemental.

  • LadyRazorback

    This was a good post. Thank you!

  • AfterMath

    Let me ask you a question WIM, how much of that $15 trillion dollar debt that we have do you feel in your pockets right now? I understand that as we get older the attention we pay to issues changes, but this has been a point hyped by the other candidates because they wanted something to attack Obama on. They didn't have a problem with debt when they were in office, only when Obama started using the credit card. And they say things like "we can't leave that debt to our children", but they're perfectly fine leaving our kids in cummy schools, or with no health care or with no jobs, things that directly effect my day to day situation and that effect whether or not I'll live to see the day that that $15 trillion dollar debt causes problems.

    • AfterMath

      I'm unashamed to be extremely hyped about Obama. Part of this is because I see so much of myself in him – not just in race but in demeanor. I mean, I've learned so much about poise and controlling situations from watching him. But when he came into office, I loved him because I didn't think he was some extremely leftist who would create an ultra liberal agenda, nor did I think he was an extremely pro-Black Al Sharpton/Jesse Jackson/Tavis Smiley/Cornel West type guy who would pump the Black fist in the air and draw lines in the sand calling the other side racist, insulting them and dismissing them. The dude is smart and he's not afraid to use his mind and sound intelligent. I think his 2011 State of the Union Speech he gave was one of his best where he stood and spoke of the purpose of government – something that democrats have been trying to do for decades, probably since FDR and Obama gave one of the best explanations that I've ever seen.
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    • AfterMath

      And I was excited about this election because of what he's done in his first term. I mean, the biggest was the Affordable Care Act, which again is something that people have been trying to pass for decades and he actually did it, but that's not really what got me hype because I have health insurance so I wasn't too worried about that (although I did go through a significant part of my life without it so I can appreciate what it does). The stimulus was cool because you can look at the numbers and see that the recovery we're on right now is mainly because of that, but that's not why I was excited either. You can look at the women's issues like the equal pay act, naming TWO Female Supreme Court Justices, or how the Affordable Care Act addresses women's health issues, but while I'm inspired by these things, that's not what had me hype about the election either. I mean really, you can look at what he did in his first two years in office (and its a REALLY LONG list) and that's a list that's longer than just about ANY OTHER PRESIDENT.

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    • AfterMath

      But what effects me is stuff like ending the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan (where i have friends and family serving) and which his opposition almost unanimously opposed, his focus on science – not just as a talking point but actually investing money in important things like climate change (funny how republicans don't want to leave our children a large debt, but are openly willing to leave them a crappy planet). I make my living in science and this stuff isn't a joke – not just climate change, but the pure need for an investment in math and science and education.

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    • AfterMath

      I'm gonna stop now cause I feel like I've written another dissertation and this isn't even my blog, but like I said I'm excited about my president.

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    • http://singleblackmale.org/author/wisdomismisery WisdomIsMisery

      You raise some good points AfterMath, and I like the fact that you did so respectfully – a lost art on the Internet. I don't wholly disagree but since I mostly agree, I'll let it slide. Like most people, I stayed up late to watch the election results roll in, so I had to get this post out in a much more limited time frame than usual. Not an excuse, just facts.

      Again, I must reiterate, I haven't been disappointed in Obama's performance but I haven't been overwhelmed either. If anything, I've been under-whelmed. This is both representative of my expectations of Obama – fair or unfair – and the expectations Obama set for himself while running for president. I will admit, in 2008 I got caught up in the hype of an Obama presidency. I lost sight of the realities and the limitations of a president. I recognize the president – not limited to just Obama – is often given credit for things he doesn't control, blamed for things outside of his control, and not given proper credit for the things he does control. This is why, as I said in the post, I have tempered my expectations for Obama's next 4-years but I still have expectations (some might say I even have hope/faith he will exceed them). Interestingly enough, when we like a president – as we, self included, do Obama, we give them leeway we would not afford presidents we don't like. For example, everything that went wrong in Bush's term was/is only Bush's fault as if the same branches of governments that exist today didn't exist in Bush' term. However, everything that goes right in Obama's term is through Obama's will and Obama's will alone. When anything goes wrong? It's someone else fault. That doesn't make sense. I hold the President, whomever occupies the house, to the same standard. Am I proud that Obama is black and resembles me? Yes, I'm very proud. Am I going to say every time something doesn't go to my liking, "Oh, it's ok. Obama is black and resembles me so it's all good." No, no I am not.

      Really, the only difference between myself and it seems some black people (not you, in this case) is that somehow because I'm black and Obama is black, to criticize him or disagree with any of his policies is somehow seen as blasphemous. In the same regard, for a white man to criticize Obama – even on the merits of his role as president – is "racist." I'm sorry, that's just not true. I see the accolades you've listed and I would argue that some are because of Obama and some are in in spite of Obama. President Obama is a man. He is not the Messiah as some would have us believe; therefore, he is not and will never be above reprieve – at least not with me. I respect his record but other than the Affordable Health Care Act, I am not overwhelmed. He's done a lot. He needs to do more. Do I recognize he has and will face a difficult rode – mind you, as I said in this very post – the answer is yes. Is that an excuse? The answer is no.

      • AfterMath

        Yeah, I really think that Obama suffers from the problem of being "the first Black president", so nobody knew how he'd act. The right painted him as this ultra liberal, ultra race baiting guy who's out to put everybody on welfare, the left wanted him to be more of that, and more of a hard core progressive who would stand for their issues, the unions wanted him to take stands for them, Blacks wanted him to end the war on drugs, stop police brutality and bring an end to poverty in the Black community, etc.

        I think his biggest detriment was that in 2008 he had a historic turnout and so people thought he'd have power beyond his limitations. What I was saying then (and it got me in trouble on dailykos) is that he's only one man and if we want these things we need to take the same energy that we took to get him elected to bring light to these issues (like we did with Trayvon Martin or Occupy Wall Street). I mean, this is politics 101, but its good politics – his slogan was "yes WE can". That inspired us in 2008 and suddenly we sat back like we were done. And it wasn't until Repubs took over the house in 2010 that we got energetic and mad again.
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  • AfterMath

    But even that's not all of it. If you look at America today, if you look at an Obama rally then you look at any other republican rally, or really just about any other politician's rally – look at the crowd there. What are you going to see? A bunch of White men and White families. You'll see the token Blacks, Latinos, etc, but they are never represented on the scale that Obama has them at his rallies. And its not just at rallies, OBAMA CHANGED POLITICS IN AMERICA. What he did in 2008 was called "expanding the electoral map", nah dude just recognized that America is not all White and Blacks and Latinos deserve a say in this election too. That in itself put states like Nevada and New Mexico and Colorado in the blue category. It'll probably give him Florida this time. It'll probably put Texas (one of the Republicans most consistent states) in the maybe category next time.

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    • AfterMath

      Tavis Smiley likes to act like Obama has ignored Black America, but when we note that Obama has addressed Black issues in the larger context of American issues, he gets mad. How many of those uninsured Americans that the ACA now covers were Black? I know I was on COBRA for a minute and that's unaffordable for me and for many especially many of my friends (who happen to be Black) and now both the allowing the people to stay on their parents plan and the creation of the exchanges and the preexisting conditions, etc apply to us to help with that problem.

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    • http://singleblackmale.org/author/wisdomismisery WisdomIsMisery

      See, this is where I'm going to have to disagree with you. I'll explain…

      I think, through Obama, he expanded what was already an America that – whatever your party beliefs (I'm an independent by the way) – more resembled a Democrat's America. It's been this way for a long time. I'm pretty sure you've seen the party's rallies before. They are only more pronounced because the President himself is black and resembles the crowd he is speaking to. The "Browning of America" has been happening for centuries. This was inevitable. At this time, only one party is largely speaking to this new America. I'm happy that Obama is the leader of that party, but as I said above, when Obama leaves America will still continue to exist in much of the same state is does today. In fact, it will inevitably only become more diverse. If the Democrats want to be the only political party that embraces that face, that's fine with me.

      However, that is a reflection of America not Obama, because the good thing about America is that whomever the president is, we will continue to grow, diversify, and hopefully, prosper in the long run. It would be highly pessimistic of me, or really anyone, to think that Obama is the sole purveyor of prosperity for this country. Do I believe he is the best choice for now? Yes, I would agree with that assessment.

      • AfterMath

        Yeah, America's been becoming more brown, but its a fact that's been largely ignored. White people have been acting as if their stronghold on the majority in America will forever be and is forever deserved. And there are some candidates (McCain among them) who spoke about immigration reform, but never did anything about it. You can say that Obama didn't either, but when he was faced with this BS congress, dude said eff it, I'll just stop enforcing a law that says that illegal immigrant children who are raised in the US and finish HS in the US aren't citizens (something like that). That was an executive order. Plus he named the Sonia Satomayer to the supreme court, first time a Latina has been named. I'm not saying that Latinos should be all greatful like "yes massa", but it is something to be recognized as an adult in the room.

        The same thing (probably to a larger extent) can be said about women's issues. And this is where what I'm talking about comes into fruition. MLK's most overhyped quote is the "man not be judged by the color of his skin but by the content of his character" quote. Everybody loves that, but then you see the media full of nothing but (almost model-like) White faces. You see candidates, democratic candidates like Kerry and Gore and probably Clinton although I was young then basically ignore this vote. And what was left is that they considered states like Arizona, New Mexico, Nevada, Colorado and Texas as basically off the map (much like Georga, Mississippi and Alabama are basically off the map). Obama came in and spoke to them and actually did stuff to address their issues.

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      • http://glippost.wordpress.com Darrk Gable

        We (read: black folk), expected more from Obama because he looked like us; his family looks like ours does. He is not the President of Black America. Truthfully, in the grand scheme of things, 85-90% of our vote was his anyway. Why cater to a demographic that is in the pocket? When folks get that he doesn’t owe us, as an overall group, anything this narrative of “what he gonna do for the Blacks” will change.

        • SMilez_920

          The Black vote is treated the way it is (by any party) because as a community we don’t take a united stand. Latinos, Gays, and Women took a stand this year. They worked from the ground up. Local, State, Feds. For a long time, as a collective unit, we haven’t taken the power of our own vote seriously. If we want any party ( Dem, Rep, Independent) to talk about our issues as hot button issues (like immigration, equal pay, gay marriage) then we need to get more involved in our political surroundings pass the President.

          That’s not to say Obama is perfect and some are complaining just too complain. I think the man has made some mistakes and has some work to do. But I think as a people we often look for/ depend on one figure head to carry us through the mountain top, instead of working as a large powerful group.

      • AfterMath

        Oh and one more thing, you notice how gay marriage, which nationally has had support has always failed when states asked voters the question of if it should be legal. I mean even California couldn't pass it. But then Obama comes out in favor of it, and suddenly you've got Jay-Z coming out in favor of it, other people talking about a revolution in hip hop (I don't see it happening), but then last night you see 4 or 5 state initiatives in favor of gay marriage all pass. That's direct impact right there.
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  • http://stanoffewwords.wordpress.com Tristan.

    My enthusiasm waned when it was clear the gop would still have the house. Basically we set our clocks back to 2010, Obama is President, the senate might could help assuming there's no filibuster, and the House is going to block everything Obama tosses up, Anthony Davis. What I am proud of was the great turnout of black/youth voters and the fact that the election was won before florida and ohio got on that bullsh**
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  • Muze

    so… all these people who are so bummed out and disappointed… do you really think Mitt Romney would do a better job? cares about you? really?

    i'm from michigan. and several years ago, before Mitt even thought about running for president, i had the (dis)pleasure of interacting with him and his family. and let me tell you him and his family are rude and obnoxious and undeserving of anyone's vote who isn't rich. seriously. he cares about his money and other people with money… and that about sums it up. the state he governed doesn't like him. his home state doesn't like him. why do you?

    i feel like republicans made a sh*t show of the united states for 8 years, gave it to Obama, and then blamed him for not fixing it in 4 years. serious? ugh.

    i don't care who folks voted for or didn't. but i must say this election has brought out all of the latent racism and hatred harbored in people's hearts, and it's so disappointing. friends and people i thought were cool, are now on facebook venting about "welfare babies and losers who don't work and uneducated brown people." really, people? it's disgusting.

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    • Adonis

      I think Obama keeps black folk in pocket. And when it is time to speak out on issue affecting blacks, they leave it to Obama thinking that him just being black will fix things, at least Romney put negroes on alert

    • cynicaloptmst81

      "but i must say this election has brought out all of the latent racism and hatred harbored in people's hearts, and it's so disappointing."

      Yup.

    • http://stanoffewwords.wordpress.com Tristan.

      its a dog eat dog world, when it gets real, you see what time it is. Seniors,immigrants, gays, blacks, broke students, they all became expendable it was almost shocking. The other day we talked about affirmative action, that woman would be damned if she wasnt more deserving than a minority. Seniors had their whole life to save, why do they need medicare? Why should i pay taxes for Shantay and her kids to eat? Its sad what its come down to. States are no more united now than they were in 1863

    • http://singleblackmale.org/author/wisdomismisery WisdomIsMisery

      so… all these people who are so bummed out and disappointed… do you really think Mitt Romney would do a better job? cares about you? really?

      No. But honestly? That's like asking me if I'd rather work fries or burgers. Had Mitt Romney won, I don't think he would have ushered in the apocalypse by any means. It's interesting that people think a Mitt Romney presidency has the power to control time, earth, and water and usher in the end of the world foreshadowed by the Mayans but an Obama Presidency can't do anything "because of congress." lol Say what now?

      i don't care who folks voted for or didn't. but i must say this election has brought out all of the latent racism and hatred harbored in people's hearts, and it's so disappointing. friends and people i thought were cool, are now on facebook venting about "welfare babies and losers who don't work and uneducated brown people." really, people? it's disgusting.

      I wish I had time to touch on this on the post or in general, but it might warrant it's own blog. Here's the thing. People troll on social media. That's what people do. Further, racism exist. It always will. That's life. I like to believe – ignorantly or rightly – that the majority of white people arent sitting around harboring racist thoughts or plotting the demise of #theblacks. I'm not going to let a few idiots make sweeping generalizations about all white people (or non blacks) because, quite frankly, that would make me no better than them making sweeping generalizations about black people (or brown people). Ignorance begets more ignorance. I can't sit around getting bent out of shape because everyone doesn't like me or people who like me nor do I think they're ignorant thoughts are representative of everyone who happens to resemble them.

      That's like saying DL Hughley's comments on black women is representative of the thoughts of all black men….wait, say what?

      • Muze

        who thinks Mitt's presidency would end the world? i don't think anyone would. if Bush didn't end the world i doubt anyone can. however, he would have ushered in or tried to usher in, some very real changes in the lives and rights of women. and i'm a woman, so…

        people troll on social media? some people do. but most people just say what they're feeling with no filter. i'm talking about people i know and consider friends, saying hateful and blatantly racist things. things that if Romney had won, i would not have said. there has to be some basic level of respect. of course it is not the majority of non-black people, because it took a considerable non-black vote to elect him. doesn't mean it's excusable.
        My recent post too much, too soon?

        • http://singleblackmale.org/author/wisdomismisery WisdomIsMisery

          I can't speak for your friends in the absence of knowing what your friends said. Most of my friends were positively receptive to the results of the election. However, if my friends said something I found questionable then yes, I would give them the side-eye and perhaps re-evaluate our friendship based on their position and this new information (even though I respect people's right to their opinion). I'm sure I have opinions and have said things that my friends wouldn't cosign either.

          I don't look to control other adults. I can only control myself and how I interact with those adults. As always, it is what it is.

    • Dr. J

      Rules is rules. If Obama can blame his four years on Bush's previous 8. Then this holds true…

      Bush can blame Clinton's lackadaisical approach to National Security and Defense for why he had to go fight two wars in the Middle East. Had Clinton not spent 8 years allowing Al Qaeda to grow into the complex organization it was in 01, none of this would have happened.

      I agree that Bush did hand Obama a hot mess, but that's an old excuse now… and especially now that he's in his second term it's time we moved on from Bush. Bush is on a ranch in Texas not thinking about us. Obama or any of his supporters can't use him for a scapegoat anymore.

      “I'll be long gone before some smart person ever figures out what happened inside this Oval Office." – G. W. Bush

      • http://singleblackmale.org/author/wisdomismisery WisdomIsMisery

        +1, J.

        At the end of the day, I just wonder why all that is good is Obama's doing and all that is bad is someone else's fault. I recognize politics is subjective and sensitive, which is why I largely stay away from the topic BUT that said, on this SECOND election eve, I'd be remiss not to point out that I have different expectations for Obama's next four years than I did for his first four years. If people want to sit back and heel, toe simply because they got a black guy in office for four more years, more power to them. WIM expects more.

        • AfterMath

          I wouldn't go that far. Obama's hands aren't clean. He's doing a lot of things I disagee with (like using MORE drones than Bush).

          But bringing race into the equation, there's the old saying that "a Black has to do twice as much to get half the credit", and that's exactly what we're seeing with Obama's presidency. Obama's getting blamed for what Bush did to the deficit (like ignoring the cost of the wars), his health care is getting ignored and lied about, his killing of Bin Laden (supposedly our number one enemy) is being dismissed as anybody would do it, etc. The list goes on and on. Even the fact that the economy is recovering is getting ignored. People are saying "its not recovering fast enough", WTF is this?

          I have no problem with criticizing Obama, but (for me at least) its one thing to note his accomplishments and then note where he's fallen short (for whatever reason), and its another thing to act like he's done nothing and then complain about what he's not doing as many republicans constantly do.
          My recent post Shade The Cells Puzzle

        • http://singleblackmale.org/author/wisdomismisery WisdomIsMisery

          I somewhat agree with your second paragraph. But, as I have repeatedly said, we (or at least I wont) sit back every time and go "oh well, it's because he's black" every time something occurs I disagree with or something doesn't happen in the fashion I would like to see. That's not how politics works. That's not even how life works. If it's that much of a hindrance, he shouldn't be president – so clearly that's not the case. Again, everyone here is bringing up Obama's race as – in my opinion – a cop out, except me. The only time I've brought up race is when someone here brought up race first.

          I guess I just firmly disagree that many of the issues I've noted and take issue with have much of anything to do with Obama's race. I can only speak for WisdomIsMisery not all of Black/White America. Do I think Obama's race causes issues? Yes, I'm not blind. That said, do I think there are areas of Obama's presidency I disagree with, let me state again, that I would disagree with no matter his race, the answer is still yes.

          That's what's bothering me here. Folks seem to think I wouldn't take issue with some of his policies whether he was black or green. And has there ever, in the history of the United States, been a president that acted without impunity and that satisfied the goals, desires, and opinions of all the people? Doubt it.

          The very fact that Obama won the popular vote by less than 200,000 out of 100,000,000 votes should be clear that a number of people take issue with his presidency.

          I see what you're saying in your last paragraph, but it makes it seem as if Republicans and Democrats were holding hands and singing Kumbaya before Obama got elected. …perhaps I missed that memo. So I'll state again, because it seems to need repeating, has Obama faced difficulties? Yes. Were they all his fault? No. Has he done some good things? Yes. Has he done some bad things? Yes Are all those bad things to be forgiven because he's black? Hells no.

        • http://singleblackmale.org/author/wisdomismisery WisdomIsMisery

          Missed a zero: *won the popular vote by 2,000,000

  • GirlSixx

    4 More Years!!!! #DropsMic

  • cynicaloptmst81

    My feelings:

    1. THANK GOD this is OVER!!!!!! Overit.com
    2. Mittens lost the election with that 47% mess.
    3. "This win was backlash against the backlash!" – Van Jones. Y'all know how the fam works, we'll talk about and cut you all day…but we will NOT stand for outsiders messing with you on some bs. Fingers in his face? Lynching Obama dolls? Calling him Mr. Obama? Trumps shenanigans? Oh, we got you…4 MORE YEARS!!!!!
    4. The house and senate has NOT changed…and that SUCKS for Obama's next 2 yrs.
    5. The repubs have GOT to modernize…and become a bit more moderate. Or they will continue to loose…
    6. It's illegal for me to discuss this stuff at work…but I am wearing BLUE today…and smiling. #SoTheyKnowItsReal :-)

    • AfterMath

      Well, like I told somebody else somewhere else, if the economy keeps improving like it has been then it'll give Obama more power behind his words than he had in his first term.
      My recent post Shade The Cells Puzzle

    • http://stanoffewwords.wordpress.com Tristan.

      got my blue tie on and Mitt Romney smirking at everybody

    • AfterMath

      Oh, and on the modernizing of repubs, its only on national elections that they need to. They could very well (which they seem to have) decide to just concentrate on winning the local elections in certain districts and states and say eff the presidency. Thats what I was kinda thinking when they went ahead with the candidates they put forth in the primaries. I mean this party is really not caring about the minority or women vote and that cripples them nationally, not locally, but nationally. So they can still control the house and/or senate (senate's harder because its across entire states so they're more likely to confront some of their problems) and looking at things LONG term, they're more likely to continue to cause deadlock and ideological problems.
      My recent post Shade The Cells Puzzle

      • http://singleblackmale.org/author/wisdomismisery WisdomIsMisery

        Many of those things were politically motivated, as Barack is a great politician. I won't fault him for that, because he is a politician – and a good one.

        It is interesting that many see my critiques as reflecting on me commenting on the first "black" president instead of me commenting on the president. Perhaps I simply have issue with some of the president's initiatives, irrespective of if he is black or white. Again, it is rather annoying that I can't say anything about the president simply because he is black without it being taken as me talking about him because he is black, rather than in-spite of the fact that he is black.

    • http://singleblackmale.org/author/wisdomismisery WisdomIsMisery

      I can def co-sign this list @cynical.

      But, you and I are usually >>>here<<< anyway lol

      • cynicaloptmst81

        True, true…LOL

    • RPrice

      Preach. Every time I turned on the television, I was wishing that someone would sell me a product instead of watching campaign ads.
      This election did do something positive for me. I was at the polling station and saw that they need some young blood volunteers. I will definitely be knocking on some doors to vote next election.

  • Slim Jackson

    In 2008, I couldn't wait to vote. In 2012, I couldn't wait for the election to be over. In 2008, I shed a few tears. In 2012, I sighed with relief.

    I think people are entitled to be critical of the president. There's obviously room for improvement. I'm just gonna enjoy this victory and get back to my life. I've never felt as exhausted by politics as I felt in the last few months. Cheers to Barack.
    My recent post slimjackson: An 8am meeting the morning after the election hoopla is not what's up. Jesus be a 8 hour energy.

    • http://singleblackmale.org/author/wisdomismisery WisdomIsMisery

      Thanks Slim. You said in two sentences what I'm clearly failing to say in 1600 words.

      In 2008, I couldn't wait to vote. In 2012, I couldn't wait for the election to be over. In 2008, I shed a few tears. In 2012, I sighed with relief.

    • MissLia

      I'm just gonna enjoy this victory and get back to my life. I've never felt as exhausted by politics as I felt in the last few months. Cheers to Barack.

      My thoughts exactly…

    • BlueSteele

      Times two

  • J. Crawford

    Here's what Lincoln Anthony Blades on ThisIsYourConscience has said:
    http://www.thisisyourconscience.com/2012/11/dear-

  • http://glippost.wordpress.com Darrk Gable

    As it seems to be a recurring theme, I’ll just add thank God this is over. I’ve found myself to be more practical than some if my cohorts. Within 2 years of his first term, I had a feeling that President Obama would have a rough time moving forward. Political stagnation, racially charged disrespect, and a genuine inability to make moves all proved hard to overcome. This current election cycle was a choice between two lesser evils, at least in my opinion. Pres. Obama has a chance to make serious inroads now, but for some reason, I don’t think it will be as much as he thought, or we wanted.

    • http://www.singleblackmale.org/author/wisdomismisery/ WisdomIsMisery

      +1

  • Bassed B

    I think the President made his plan clear or at least his stance on important issues. More teachers for high skilled jobs created through green energy, withdrawl from middle eastern countries so that they would be responsible for their own goverment and safety, healthcare for all.

    I'm excited about the second term because I think President Obama truly embodies positive hope and change. healthcare for all, marriage equality, and choices for women despite personal beliefs are all great signs of leadership to me because at some level religious beliefs are put aside to do what is best for a person.

    Outside of that I think the election made it clear that there is power in minorities and made many of us in the swing states feel as if our votes really do count and as if collectively we can make a stance.

    When it comes to many of us in the country we are to lazy to read between the lines, and to near sighted to see beyond our own issues, and to entitled to realize when we are the source of our own problems

    • http://www.singleblackmale.org/author/wisdomismisery/ WisdomIsMisery

      I like this…

      When it comes to many of us in the country we are to lazy to read between the lines, and to near sighted to see beyond our own issues, and to entitled to realize when we are the source of our own problems.

      Thanks for the comment.

  • Dr. J

    Can we please talk about how you can legally smoke weed in Colorado?

    I'm putting in a request to move SBM HQ to Denver.

    "This is like if that Blue Oyster shit met that Afghan Kush I had – and they had a baby. And then, meanwhile, that crazy Northern Light stuff I had and the Super Red Espresso Snowflake met and had a baby. And by some miracle, those two babies met and fucked – this would the shit that they birthed."

    • BlueSteele

      Palm to forehead, lol

  • BlueSteele

    I think my biggest annoyance when discussing politics is the fact that many people have unrealistic expectations. I'm not making excuses for any politician, but I refuse to let others blame their entire current situation on a politician either. So then…if you lost your job in 2008, still don't have one and suddenly it's Barack's fault, have several seats _/ _/ _/. I graduated into the recession, made it work, so can you.

    I think Barack is guilty of a) having a global (I'm tired of the word "progressive") approach to policy and advancement and b) being inexperienced (2008 probably wasn't the best time for a political newbie to get his feet wet).

    Either way, I'm glad it's over. Hopefully everyone will finish their rants soon and my facebook feeds will go back to the days of sports, ecards and mindless memes.

  • Peter Parker

    Yeah, definitely glad to see Obama win a second term and now I can be relieved of all the campaign ads. I think for me, the main issue that really concerned me was OBAMACARE. Now that he has been re-elected, every American will have access to comprehensive healthcare. Other than that, just glad to see my boy win again.

  • Magg

    It's crazy how Obama's race was again such an important topic… Poor WIM can't even say a word, LOL so sorry!!!
    The "oh u're saying that just cuz he's black" comment is getting old, but truth is A LOT OF PEOPLE do say some things just cuz of his blackness :S!!! Some think (and say!!!) the only reason they (black) support Obama is because he's black. Saying that is the same as saying they can't think, they don't comprehend politic so they are going for the guy who looks like them. Why can't black people vote for Obama because he's the right guy for the job? Clinton was white and blacks were more into him than they are into Obama now… Of course black racially connect to Obama (and we are so proud of him, Tupac’s song “Changes” lost all its sense LOL, I know a lot of yall were spitting with a lot of frustration “We ain’t ready to see a black president” AHAHAHAH) but if it was only about race why didn't they support Cain? The only people who are beyond black people being black are black people LOL!!!!

    The Bush excuse was all ok during the first term, but now I agree it's old!!!!
    And this congress still being Republican… *sighs*…
    And Iran and Israel going crazy, they gonna start another war again * BIG sighs*…
    And… Oh Lord, the list of issues is WAY TOO LONG… Not fun at all being the president of the US.
    I wish him the best of luck!!!

  • Larry

    Hmm….I thought about what I wanted to comment here, but considering I'm a day late to the party and how long it would be I'll just write a couple of notes semi-unrelated, but related to the post, lol.

    People on the right will blatantly come out and say that President Obama has no plans to create jobs and no plan to reduce the deficit and grow the economy. Paul Ryan actually specifically said (or eluded) to this in his speech at the RNC.

    I'm sorry, but one just can't say the President had no plan to creat jobs immediately when it's CLEARLY right here:
    http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/omb

    And one just can't say the President had no plan to reduce the deficit and grow the economy when it's CLEARLY right here:
    http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/omb

    • Larry

      I get it…the President (and Governor Romney) can't be overly specific on plans going forward because with political strategy, less is usually more. The more you put out there, the more your opponent can break it down and spin it against you. I won't go down that road, however, as we'll really get into the weeds of political science and maneuvering, lol. That's all I have to say, though. If you want to see what plans the President have come up with, visit the White House website. Whether congress will pass these ideas is a whole nother story, smh.

  • EducatedMiss

    I don't think that deciding to vote is a situation that depends on who the candidates are on Nov 6th but instead a sense of civic duty. One thing that will continuously hold black people down is the idea that we so not have to be in involved unless people are watching. We need to normalize the idea that when general or midterm elections come around people should expect to see us at the polls. It just really makes me sad that young black people (especially young black men) think it is okay to not vote at all because they aren't particularly "excited" about a candidate. We have to do better.

  • kat

    I admit I was so caught up that by election day I had raccoon like circles under my eyes. You do have to watch msnbc, fox and cnn to get the left, right and somewhat neutral versions of what is "most likely" going on. That is exactly what I did day after day leading up to November 6th until the wee hours of the morning. My mind was made up but one of the things that did strike me is how often Mr Romney switched up He simply came across as dishonest and untrustworthy. That being said, I worry that we will end up with 4 more years of gridlock with a Dem Senate and Republican House. Or worse yet, small and big businesses who's owners cease hiring even at the expense of their bottom lines because they have views more in line with Romney/Republicans. The money raised and spent by people like Rove came from very deep pockets. There are more ways than one for the top 2% to get what they want.