“Men lie, women lie, the numbers don’t!” – Jay-Z
We all lie. This is no secret. Especially when dealing with the opposite sex. Whether we want to protect feelings, lessen the wrath inflicted upon us from a mistake we made, or we fail to follow through on a promise, we have our reasons for these non-truths. Men and women handle lies differently. In my experiences I see that women defeat men hands down with the skill, accuracy, and perfection of their lies. While men are deliberate and careless with lies (on average), some dudes would never suspect their women was cheating, or even lying! To solidify my point, I thought over 5 reasons why women lie better than men:
Secret Agent Maneuvers – Women operate with the precision of a ninja and the cunning of a female 007. They will erase all incriminating messages, dispose of any anomalous items their cut buddy left in your bed at the crib, and will have an air tight alibi that over 5 sources can confirm and attest to in a court of law. Men do not follow these meticulous measures, and at times we are naturally sloppy and blatant with our covert moves, wondering how our wifey could decipher the code. Women cannot afford to fumble, and will move in silence and violence (c) B.I.G. to cover their tracks
Knowledge of schedule – Women will know your schedule better than you! You may not realize, but your day-to-day routine follows a certain pattern. Women pay attention to detail and can extrapolate your course of action over a 7 day period, and calculate their moves accordingly. That’s why they’ll suspect you if/when you modify this schedule or behavioural patterns. She’ll even have contingency plans for when that board meeting lets out early or when your racquetball session goes an extra hour. Sun Tsu would blush at the tactics women impose!
Societal Double Standards – Women profit from society standards when it comes to cheating. When cheating or grimy behaviours is involved, men automatically assume the role of culprit. Women leverage this knowledge by putting you in a situation where even SUGGESTING that they would lie earns you a first class ticket to the dog house (No Michael Vick). We need twice the proof at times to show a woman’s griminess, where women can end the conversation with 6 words: “Girl, he’s a man! Nuff said!”
Assassins Determination – If a woman has to go to the trouble of cheating on you, or lying to you in general, they will make it have significance and show determination to carry out the mission to the END! To paraphrase Chris Rock: A man’s lie will be “I’ll be there in 10 minutes” when they haven’t even left the house yet. A woman’s lie is “The baby is yours, and I only slept with you since we got together” Do believe that the same energy that a woman will put into remembering special dates, working on the relationship, and looking good for their man, they will put into a lie and any type of justified revenge for you acting up!
Help me out with the last one: Name one reason why women lie better than men. Do you think men lie more often better than women? Are these selections off base?
Streetz: The Living Legend
We stay in our own heads- thinking and analyzing everything.
We're just better (read: more thorough) thinkers. :p
I think the best way to describe this is; a man is better at lying: but a woman is better at deceit.
Think of a chess board; if we all played pieces, we'd be Kings (only able to make one move at a time), and they'd be Queens (able to make long, sweeping moves aimed at having a larger impact on the game's result)
I do think that men who are deep thinkers can figure it out though as they sometimes do. Not every woman is smarter or wiser than every man so sometimes the tables turn.
Also, never put anything past the human "intuition." A woman's intuition has been known to predict natural disasters, but anyone's intuition can tell you when someone is cheating on you.
I dunno, I am naturally a very honest person so if I ever cheated (haven't thus far in my life and don't plan to), I don't think I could make it another 30 minutes without the guilt consuming me…then I'd have to tell SO. I'm a terrible liar because I rarely BS things…I am just real – I enjoy being honest as it makes life easier for me. Having to keep what lies I said to what person straight — not for me.
However, I think the reason women catch men in their lies/cheating easier is just what Dr. J said…woman's intuition. We do take notice of how your schedule is, normal behaviors, etc. I've been cheated on twice and both times I had the intuition that first led me to suspect. One time I had the intuition at the exact moment it was happening! But, I digress…I'm not so sure if it's women are deceitful when they lie/cheat because I've never cheated…or that men just don't pay attention to the signs when it's happening to them.
Women's intuition is a beast. There have been times where I was just looking at a chick and wifeykins at the time would call to ask what I was up to. Don't let her call and I'm busy on the other line.lol.
As for this post in general streetz, you just reminded me why I need to vary my habits.lol.
lol @ SJ! Unpredictability is the best pattern to follow!
@Steph I feel you on the women's intuition, but sometimes women use that as an excuse to reach and try to find things tht really aren't there. If you look for something, you're gonna find something.
I wouldn't be shocked if a woman is behind all the mess goin down in 24. Look @ Angela Petrelli!! Women, yall aint no good, lol.
This is pretty accurate. Women definitely got it down. I'm in general a horrible liar face to face, but I know a thing or two about the art of omission. Like Nikki said the ability to stay in your own head an analyze allows a woman to play out scenarios in her mind and therefore have a rebuttal or lack of one to suit the situation. Intuition also allows us to know when WE are being done dirty. Not to be confused with paranoia.
I plead the fifth. But I support this post.
Reecie's Gchat game is serious though. Have a dude thinking he Superman when he's really Chris Reeves, smh.
The omission is that SHYTE!Just happen to forget ish right? smh…lol
I suck at lying when I'm actually guilty of something. However I can be very deceitful and lie about something that never happened just to see what he'll do. Like I once told a special friend who said it was okay for me date (weird situation), so a month later I lied and said I went on two lunch dates… he was livid. Realized he cared more than he thought he did. Sometimes lying works in our favor but it can backfire.
I think it's the person who says they care — man or woman — who lies best. That person just cares more about himself/herself in that situation.
But why do women seem to lie better? IDK. It's extremely rare that i catch a woman in a lie. They're too good.
And numbers lie, too. Look at Soulja Boy's ringtone sells. That's not good music. … The only things that don't lie are wiretaps — ask Rod Blagojevich … but that guy will still trying and weave a bad lie to you. lol.
I have to say speak for yourselves I don't deal in lies, little ones big ones to protect folk whateva…… lies are a cowards way for the most part……and quite binding LOL however there is freedom and NO guilt inside the Truth!
@ Kwana, so your sanctified and without lie in any dealings with men? You need more people.
"The greatest trick the devil pulled on the world was convincing them that he did not exist"
LOL. I find this post hilarious. I agree with Nicki we just think things through more, play out the scenarios in our heads and make sure our friends are in on it. But with that being said, I'm a terrible liar. However, I'm an expert at omitting information and dodging questions.
I think in general (not everyone), women tend to have better memories and that gives a huge advantage when it comes to lying b/c you have to be able to keep up your lie for a long time. A lot of men just do not remember their lies and end up getting caught out there. For instance, you told me Keisha was your cousin 1 year ago, but then now you say she is just some chick your friend used to mess with and you don't know how she got your number.
Women will know your schedule better than you! That is soooooooooo true. And look at it this way. God created Eve to compliment Adam. While men have brute strength and are (generally) more physically strong than women, women are mentally strong. Used the wrong way mental strength = cunning.
i don't know about this one. <del>i'm</del> i know a lot of dudes who are great liars. not that that is anything to be proud of. i think it just depends on the person and what they are lying about. some people's minds work better than others. sure women have intuition, but that doesn't work in every situation and can sometimes work against a woman.
i know i can be a great liar because i have an excellent memory. i remember the most minute details for some reason. not that i have anything to lie about. lol.
Women lie because that's their nature. Going forward, I know that all of them have the potential to lie and will at one point. The ones who lie the most are the usually the ones who say they are "a good girl" because it's easier to get away with.
Hell, if people passive-aggressively avoid me on the strength that they know I tell the truth, then my lying is the thing that would keep them around…except I don't. That's where feelings get hurt.
Damn evil womenz.
"LOL. I find this post hilarious. I agree with Nicki we just think things through more, play out the scenarios in our heads and make sure our friends are in on it. But with that being said, I’m a terrible liar"
Thanks.. and I suck at it too. lol. I am the reason my cousin was on punishment for half of her senior year in high school. Her mama always singled me out for the truf and I'd sing like a canary!
@Nicki – LOL yeah, I'm the same way, all you have to do is look at me and ask me to tell you the truth and it's a wrap! I just can't do it.
I learned that lies are for suckers like I said, believe what you want but this is a SUCKER FREEE ZONE 😉 and it is actually easier being honest, less BS to keep track of = FREEDOM………
Life is about learning, did I start off this learned, no, do I apply leassons learned….yes…. or else what are they good for really?????..evolution is good!
women lie cause men so desperately want to believe we are innocent, naive, and sooooo into them that we could NEVER ever EVER be as fucked up as they CAN be…
Thats it and thats all. We know that you expect us to be good and shit…
We can't be honest about our indiscretions..cause of the double standards yall set.
I remember arguing with my ex about lying and this fool actually said "but i'm a man"
he couldn't believe women are as devious..like when he met a huge assed buffie the body girl talkin about she aint fucked in 2 years
BWAHAHAHAHAHAH..now I KNOW that was a lie..how he figga his swag so right he was the only nigga that got to that phat ole ass in 2 years…niggas prolly paid for that ass phat as it is lol
*thinking how I sound like a dude*
"Societal Double Standards – Women profit from society standards when it comes to cheating. When cheating or grimy behaviours is involved, men automatically assume the role of culprit. Women leverage this knowledge by putting you in a situation where even SUGGESTING that they would lie earns you a first class ticket to the dog house (No Michael Vick). We need twice the proof at times to show a woman’s griminess, where women can end the conversation with 6 words: “Girl, he’s a man! Nuff said!”"
Hmm, speaking of societal double standards, it makes me wonder if the reaction "He cheated? He's a man. Nuff said" is worse that "She cheated on you? What a ho." I mean, the former presupposes that ya'll are prone to shady behavior which is effed up, but on the other hand, it sorta makes it okay since it's the norm. Kinda like the "numbers game. If we presuppose that ya'll are prone to sleep with multiple partners, ya'll don't get a derogatory name for it. For the record, though, that don't pertain to me. If a man cheat, he's a ho, too. Not a male ho. A certified gardening tool.
Also, co-sign on that women's intuition thang. There's no surprise why we're always likened to felines. We have that sneaky evilness going on.
April 29, 2009 at 10:10 am
@ Kwana, so your sanctified and without lie in any dealings with men? You need more people.
“The greatest trick the devil pulled on the world was convincing them that he did not exist”
People who say that are usually the biggest liars on the planet (sorry peoples..but its true from my experience)..they are usually more concerned with APPEARING honest…they lie so good, they lie about NOT LYING …lol
I LOVE IT!!!
everyone lies cause its in their nature
streetz got it right the first time
@ True…. umm True True! lol
And all men take notes…. these women lie RIGHT to our face and say they are terrible liars! Im not drinking the kool-aid!
Dont send me side messages, twits, etc talkinbout "you know we just crazy u sexy piece of golden manliness" because I'll believe it and fall for your trickery 🙁
April 29, 2009 at 11:05 am
@ True…. umm True True! lol
And all men take notes…. these women lie RIGHT to our face and say they are terrible liars! Im not drinking the kool-aid!
Dont send me side messages, twits, etc talkinbout “you know we just crazy u sexy piece of golden manliness” because I’ll believe it and fall for your trickery
lmao..and You KNOW we be lying…we KNOW how to gas yall and yall fall for it like a MUG
As SOON as a lady tells any ugly fat dude that he is the business (so they can get something of course) he falls hook line and sinker.
when we say "I only had sex with you in a year and that was the last time I had sex"..you believe us
We lie cause we KNOW that thats what yall NEED to hear to give us what we want….LOVE, COMMITTMENT, MONEY, SEX, WHATEVER
"@Nicki – LOL yeah, I’m the same way, all you have to do is look at me and ask me to tell you the truth and it’s a wrap! I just can’t do it."
@Remi: In some situations I will give it a go. lol. But look at me funny or ask again, and it's OVER.
We gotta lie to keep from being a HO cause no man wants their woman even SEEING other men let alone Sleeping with one (remember yesterday's post and dr. J)
We all "HOES"…and we all "LIE"
i try not to lie, esp for small things (as was pointed out in the post). as someone else said, i'm a master at the art of omission, and saying certain things in a way that doesn't make it a lie, but it's also not the complete truth. i feel that women don't lie over dumb stuff, esp when there is evidence or witnesses available. if anything, we lie about bigger things, and thus have to be more creative about covering it up.
and yes, intuition is great… sometimes i can look at dude's face, or notice the small change in demeanor or tone and tell when he's lying. i also usually have some sort of evidence to prove that he is lying (i.e. my friend/mom/sister caught him). i have eyes everywhere lol
oh, and i forgot to mention… women love to talk! so sometimes a dude's spot is blown up simply after homegirls finish a good gossip session.
for example, i could go out to lunch with my girls, and we strike up a conversation about people we know. one girl can mention how they saw a dude hugged up on some chick at the club, restaurant, etc. her friend could be like, "word??? my other friend is trying to holla/is dating him now… when did this happen?" and BAM! dude is busted…
(sorry for the multiple comments, but this Edit function is jacked up lol)
this can be helpful in the sense that all your friends know whats up, and they can cover you if necessary, whether it's exposing your man's lie or backing you up on a lie. this can also back-fire… if your girl gets pissed off at you for whatever reason, she can blow up your whole spot.
I think also women see the mistakes men make with their sloppy lies and just perfect them. But we are definitely given the benefit of the doubt many times because of double standards.
However, I have met men who are just paranoid b/c they think women are such good liars that we are lying about everything. The person I'm dating now is always saying he has to "watch me." For instance, I'm not a drinker, but one of my friends was drinking Alize and she left the bottle in my apt. He saw it and was asking if one of my "man friends" left it. I LOL'd and told him it was one of my girlfriends and told him her name. He responded by saying that he "knew" I was lying and that one day I was going to run out of female names to give him b/c I always give him a female's name when he asks about something. LOL. I just laughed it off.
vanessa….thats mostly not intution..but the fact that their lies dont make sense
Why when you go out and drink and party till 2:30 am 3 am, proceed to go over "johns" house to party and drink some more….then at 5 am over "johns" house you "too drunk" to drive home when he lives 10 minutes away. CONSISTENTLY FOR A DAY OR 2 A WEEK EACH for a MONTH..fuck outta here(i was an idiot )
Sometimes shit just dont add up…but when we believe the excuse that he was over "johns" house, we just ignoring that shit dont make sense. we know its a lie..thats not intution..that just smelling bullshit and deciding not to put up with it no more lol
why not call when you at johns house and say "im going over johns"
@ REMI "However, I have met men who are just paranoid b/c they think women are such good liars that we are lying about everything. The person I’m dating now is always saying he has to “watch me.” For instance, I’m not a drinker, but one of my friends was drinking Alize and she left the bottle in my apt. He saw it and was asking if one of my “man friends” left it. I LOL’d and told him it was one of my girlfriends and told him her name. He responded by saying that he “knew” I was lying and that one day I was going to run out of female names to give him b/c I always give him a female’s name when he asks about something. LOL. I just laughed it off."
Sorry hon..that usually means HE IS CHEATING/Messing with other chicks and thinks Karma is biting him. He knows the lies and excuses he makes/has made and thinks you are using the same ones..trust me..my last dude this this faithfully.
Remi …you mind if I ask are you in DC?
@True – you're right, it most likely means he is dealing with other chicks, but I really don't take him too seriously anyway b/c we really aren't in a relationship. I'm not really feelin' him that much.
No girl, I'm not. I sure wish I was. I'm in NY, but planning to move to the DMV area within the next couple of years. I have lots of friends and family there, so I'm there a lot. Why do you ask?
some of us are ruled by something other than our own natures, some people actually live by higher principles…..unbelievable right, WOW, and have things like discipline, integrity you know those none important things of THAT nature……. and yeah its a choice not to lie, a conscious choice cause maybe one can appreciate the real lasting value of truth… but I love how everyone is the same here, to let ya'll tell it LMFAO……
I was asking cause he sounded to much like my ex
lol ….I thought he was the only one of his kind, but I guess not
Kwana..get off your high horse
nicki I like ur haircut
SMH don't own a horse
@True: "I was asking cause he sounded to much like my ex" – LOL. No, he is a NYer from Jamaica. I guess there are quite a few like that.
Women are smarter than men. Point blank.
lol @ lexsteele
"Women are smarter than men. Point blank."
So let it be written…
@RightCoast – I'm not ready to go that far. What we are asked to do is different as genders.
@True & Remi – It would have made my day so much sweeter if you guys were talking about the same guy.
@ Miss V – Vintage! What's good? Anyway, you'd be surprised how much a Maitre'D at the restaurant your date takes you to knows. Because most dudes are simple and at times think they are invincible, they take chicks to the same spot over and over again.
@DJ – LOL
@remi and true – Dont hate me but i was seriously hoping that we had a Maury moment on this blog
@Kwana – Forgive some people for being human and lying at times. Let me hit the confessional and clease my soul so I can live my life of Kwana in DC Virtue…
Us Middle Earthers will continue to be hindered by our humanity and let emotion dictate our actions.
@ "no one in particular" (pointing @ Kwana)
Did y'all see what happened to Christopher Reeves when he fell off that horse?
dr j and sweetz
This dude got mad cause I had a bottle of pepsi beside the bed and I "never" drink pepsi
He act like he found a condom or drawers
@true – well why did you have the pepsi if you "never" drink pepsi? if i was you, i would have drank so much pepsi after that point he would have gotten sick.
lol I drink pepsi..I just dont drink it much.
Still..Im not gon cheat and have a dude chilling in my house and bringing pepsis n shit
Who cares, I shouldn't have to walk on eggshells. If I did'nt follow a strict routine, it was cause of a nigga
one time he asked why I got pillow wrinkles on my face…SERIOUSLY?!?!?!? ..He let it go when he woke up with the same pillow wrinkles
Another time I was using some new dollar store body spray.."WHy you using that"
If I dont answer my phone on my lunch break "Who you having lunch with"
I hate walkin on eggshells..glad its over. May never do it again
@streetz – lol – no offense taken
@true – I'm glad you're done with that too. This dude does not seem to be that bad, but who knows he could be hiding his full true colors for now.
I've had my fair share of the overly possessive types, who think everything is a lie. They don't believe anything b/c of the dirt they are doing. My ex (when we were together) drove by my house at 3 o'clock in the morning to check if my car was in the gate and when it wasn't there b/c I took it to get repaired and it had to stay overnight, but forgot to mention it to him. He called me the following morning and said "I drove by your house around 3 o'clock in the morning and your car wasn't there, where were you?" I told him I was home and my car was in the shop, but he never believed me. He thought he had caught me in a lie and he was oh so clever, but he just looked like a crazy, possessive stalker.
Remi and True need to side message each other and compare notes, lolol
“Women are smarter than men. Point blank.”
Yeah at lying and tom foolery!
Personally… I do not lie.. ever. I don't lie for any reason to anyone, not an employer on why I am late, not a friend on if she looks fat(not phat) in those jeans, not a lover on his sexual prowess(if you didn't make me cum, then I am NOT gonna fake one just so you can feel better). I have crafts disease(C-can't R-remember A F-fuckin T-thing), so a lie to me is just not worth the effort of having to keep crib notes on what i've said in previous conversations.
Men and women lie… men lie and give too many details, thats how they get caught… women lie and give the bare minimum, less details to remember.
Also, i personally believe that women probably cheat more then men do, but they don't get caught nearly as much, because if a woman doesn't want to get caught, she doesn't tell anyone.. not even her best girlfriends. That secret is held tighter than her panties, because everyone that knows is a possible slip of the lip that will lead to you getting busted… men on the other hand, for some reason always feel the need to have someone else in on it. Their boys gotta know whats goin on and how good it is. Women don't have that need.
LOLOL, I concur, lol… I think people who lie will give alot of detail in general…Interesting, I think everyone wil cheat if the oppty and if the desire is burning for them to do it. but I feel people who are smarter at doing it will either not tell anyone or just tell everyone a lie,,,,if you gonna lie to one person, might as well lie to everyone…I guess the "alibi" story should take care of itself….I mean, I remember when I thought my bf was cheating and I had two numbers of his friends and what did they say, "I don't know where he is. I don't know anythin.g" Honestly, it's better to say that and keep out the business…
Women lie because they want love and commitment (the nurturing part in our genes, we are emotional and caring creatures).
Men lie because they want pu$$y…to satisfy their ego and obviously it feels good….all about power and being the conquerer.
This may not relate to the post but it just triggered a thought.
I guess we "kinda" forgot that were animals; but let me say "intellectual" animals. Honestly, if you just eliminate all the "garbage" society has developed, it's all about reproduction and survival of the fittest. I know it's somewhate primitive but I guess I am just getting irritated just making excuses for all human behavior and why people lie, cheat wanna be hoes and sex animals. I am not getting on anyone here because everyone is entitled to their opinions but I just feel that if the concept of open relationships was appreciated or maybe accepted, cheating, lying and half of the relationship drama would not exist. I am not trying to be an advocate for open rleationships but even with that in mind, people may just take it and make thins worse. Just my thought.
Peace and Love…
Thanks for the comment! Much love and you dropped some knowledge!
Communication is key, I agree
Thanks, hun. I haven't been in crazy situations but I seen it school, at work, around friends and you just learn from their lessons. Alot of people said very good things on this board too so hopefully, everyone can take some knowledge and apply it to their lives and make things better for them and become better people. I don't condone lying but it's reality; we are going to lie anyway. Whether you suck at it or you are a magnificant, we are all going to do it.
yo tru dat ma man this post is so right!