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Do you want to end this? … Hell no!

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Can I get this in a men's XXL?

Janelle: “So, I have a question I have to ask you?”
DuWayne: **prepares for the worst from his 6 month Friend With Benefits** “What’s up?”
J-lo: “Do you want to end this?”
D-Block: “I’m not sure what you mean? End our relationship?”
J-lo: “This isn’t a ‘relationship’ and I don’t think you want a girlfriend. Should we just end this?”
D-block: **thinks to himself “Do I want to end constant s*x with no type of real commitment? Does she think I’m stupid?”**
J-lo: “Well … ?”
D-block: “I enjoy your warm and wet dug-out company and I want to see where this goes because you still won’t do an*l
J-Lo: “Ok, just wanted to make sure.”

Simon: “Hey, can I ask you something?”
Felicia: “Sure.”
Simping Simon: “So, we’ve been chilling for about 6 months now, right?”
F-drizzy: “Yeah, and it’s been great.”
Simping Simon: “And we’ve gone on 3 trips, gone to countless concerts, and eat nothing but the best food back in DC, right?”
F-drizzy: “Yeah, we have a lot of fun together.”
Simping Simon: “And we decided to wait until it’s right to have s*x, right?”
F-drizzy: “Don’t wanna rush it and ruin something special.”
Simping Simon: “Should we just end this? Seems like we aren’t going to move to the next level and I want a girlfriend”
F-drizzy: **thinks “Do I want to end eating the best and vacations that I don’t have to spend money for … HA!”**
Simping Simon: “Well … ?”
F-drizzy: “The more time we spend together the closer I feel to you and your money. I want to see where this goes cause I’m trying to see paris.”
Simping Simon: “Ok. More Cristal?”

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I have been presented with this situation several times in the past.  I have had friends speak of this same scenario.  I have also had many females complain about “surprising” answers to this question.  And as my friend detailed the 28th time he was asked this question … it hit me.

This is a dumb question!

First, I am not talking about relationships.  If you have a real relationship, with real titles, and real emotions … this isn’t for you.  When your actually invested in the other person, they might actually want to get out of the relationship.  He might be tired of your inability to put together an intelligent thought and your unwillingness to swallow.  She might actually be tired of your addiction to the dope game or your inability to move outta mom’s house.  Yeah … this post isn’t for you.

But for people in that gray area …. the undefined purgatory that exists between strangers and boyfriend/girlfriend … I’m talking to you.

There are a few things that both DuWayne and Felicia that you need to realize:

– They have made no commitment of monogamy, relationship or anything
– They are receiving what the need/want (s*x or money)
– They have no immediate plans to move to the “next step” (6 months to decide … right)

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So, given the fact that they have what they want, they don’t have to commit to the person, and they don’t really have to do/give the other person anything … why would they want to end it.  That’s like a job that pays me twice what I am worth, only requires me to work once a day, and allows me to pursue other jobs in your free time, asking me “do you want to quit?”.

M*therf* no!

If someone is given everything they want, they have no incentive to stop or end.  If it is taken from them, they can’t do anything about it … but why would they give it up.

So next time you think about asking this question to someone that doesn’t have a title … save your breathe.

Have you ever been asked “do you want to end this?” Did you know your answer before even thinking about it?  Have you asked this question of anyone and actually got a “yes?”  Am I on it today or full of the usual bullsh*t what?!

– SBM aka Don’t ask me dumb questions aka Your favorite blogger’s favorite blogger

Comment(179)

  1. I've never been asked this and it's never even crossed my mind to ask it of someone. In fact I'm very confused by it. If I was in some kind of non-committed situation with someone and I started having issues, shouldn't the question be "Do I want to end this?" Why would I put all the control in the hands of the other person?

    I don't get it.

    1. "If I was in some kind of non-committed situation with someone and I started having issues, shouldn’t the question be “Do I want to end this?”

      Exactly, sometimes we give too much control to the other person. Be in control of your own life is what I say and try to practice.

  2. LOL…I go by what I want to do and if it is a positive and beneficial one for me. I don't get caught up in those going no where let's use each other as long as we can type of situations so I've never had to ask or been asked that question. 🙂

  3. Now… I do periodic checkins to find out the state of whatever I got going on. This question never gets asked. For what? There's nothing to end. I did, however, just ask a fellow "ok, you asked me what material you were, well what am I?"

    Basically I'm the mythical unicorn. I'm the chick that can fall into all categories at once.

    *strokes chin*

    Ok… MF. But anyways, he doesn't meet ANY need but companionship & vice versa so I don't think it matters.

    That's what Simon & friends need to all recognize. One person needs to scale it back on what they're giving and the other person needs to realize they're not worth all of that.

  4. I think the reason most women ask these questions, especially when it is obvious that the relationship is not going anywhere is to get a form of validation or a flicker of hope that maybe he wants something serious. this however, never happens

    I have read advice columns that tell women to have such conversations or push the man….all lies, like u wrote, it won't take a man 6 months to decide if he wants to be with you

    1. I can't co-sign this statement because it is true that women need to ask certain questions. A lot of men will avoid turning things into a relationship because he doesn't really have the incentive to. The "where is this going" is an annoying, but often necessary question. The "should we end this" is just dumb

      1. It's been my experience that if a man is THAT interested, I've never had to ask that question. They always bring it up or mention it fairly quickly. The times when I HAVE wondered, it truly wasn't going anywhere. If a man really just wants the cookies on a regular basis and that's all, he won't ever say anything. He'll be content to just go along and long as she goes along. Like the saying, "if you have to ask how much it costs, you probably can't afford it", likewise "if you have to ask, should we end this OR where is this going," it's probably going nowhere and no they don't want it to end. Just my experience

        BTW, these days, if it's not clear to me where it's going…I don't ask questions..I keep it moving. I know where he's going and I know where I'm going…LOL

        1. I find this to be true as well:

          "It’s been my experience that if a man is THAT interested, I’ve never had to ask that question. They always bring it up or mention it fairly quickly. The times when I HAVE wondered, it truly wasn’t going anywhere. If a man really just wants the cookies on a regular basis and that’s all, he won’t ever say anything."

  5. Yes, I have had to ask this question. I hated it. I tried to put it off for as long as I could. It is sometimes a necessary evil. I never had to ask in the past. It was made clear to me. there was no need. There are a new breed of dudes out here now that intentionally want to keep things in the gray zone. They want to have their cake and eat it too. There are so many women out here willing to share a man. Men will gray zone everybody and reap all the benefits. Its up to the women to come out of this gray zone, if you know you want something more than just sex. These non-committal dudes will rotate women like its nothing all the while avoiding the "what are we question". You have to ask.

    1. I hear what you're saying but got to ask … is it really this "breed of dudes" that's keeping things in the gray zone? The women must be allowing these men to have their cake and eat it too. No?

      The person asking this question has "allowed" this situation to go one for the last 6 months, year, or decade. While they may hope for more, time has showed that there is nothing more to come.

      Asking the question is intended to bring clarity or put their friend on the spot, but as said in the post, he/she can't be put on the spot, because they are content with things as they are.

      It's a very dumb question, because they either already know the answer or don't really want to know the answer.

    2. Overall, there are a lot more guys looking to stay in the gray zone. To be honest, it's simply great. You don't have the work of a GF, but 99% of the benefit.

      But I don't want you to think that there aren't millions of women trying to stay in the gray zone.

      While the onus is mainly on the woman to get out of the gray zone (she usually wants it more) … this question is just not the way to go. The classic "where is this going" works a lot better than this.

    3. I would probably do the same if I were a dude lol

      It seems to me if your asking that question You kind of already know the answer

      As far as the women willing to share a man Sharing a man is not sharing a relationship

      Being clear and upfront in the begining has worked a lot for me That way I am well with in my rights to go the f*** off when there is a violation or be a lady and politley walk away

      If these are the ways of the world now You just have to decide if your playing or wacthing

  6. I don't think I've asked this question since my early 20's when I started having "relations". Really, we don't have to ask because the answer is all in the person's behavior. If I wasn't sure about a man's intentions I would just step off. The man will either pursue harder or he'll leave me the hell alone, lol. Sometimes the person will try to extend his/her stay with some ole bullshyt promises, but their actions betray them every time.

  7. Ask me that question and you will get this response verbatim: "If I didn't want to be in this, I would not be."

    And I think it was said best in college, "If I haven't defined what we are, that's what we are."

    Seriously, here's where people get themselves in trouble. (I apologize in advance for putting this out there.)

    Don't get your behind in psuedo relationships. This is NO SECRET. Why buy the cow when you get the milk for free? If he's smashing, getting TLC, and you are committed to him, he's NEVER wifing you down. Get familiar! Why would a guy do that? That's dumb. I mean you gotta show him what he wants to put a title on, so don't be a prude. But if you are doing everything that a chick would do in a relationship for a guy he's not doing it, period.

    Will he want to end it? No. Will he care if it does? Probably, but a guy really doesn't think you're leaving UNTIL you do. You know why? Because people are so inconsistent.

    The chick from the Kanye West – Workout Plan interlude is back with Ray Ray, I seen pictures on Facebook. Talking bout… he made manager at Foot Locker.

      1. I cannot cosign all statements you made enough… and you were mad, lmao

        There's no need to ask that ?tion unless you want it to go somewhere else, and in that case you might as well be upfront about it, instead of trying to swindle the person into saying they want more

    1. If he’s smashing, getting TLC, and you are committed to him, he’s NEVER wifing you down.

      Co-sign. The thing that gets me is that, why would you be committed to a person who isn't committed to them? If you and homie are "dating" non-exclusviely (which means going out on dates with the reoccurring potential of smashing) then why make yourself exclusive without saying something? To me it's just a bad personal decision. Even if you did make your position aware, then you should be willing to accept or reject their stance with the consequences that follow. Then people have the nerve to get mad cuz the other person wasn't exclusive.

    2. Dr. J: "Don’t get your behind in psuedo relationships. This is NO SECRET. Why buy the cow when you get the milk for free? If he’s smashing, getting TLC, and you are committed to him, he’s NEVER wifing you down. Get familiar! Why would a guy do that? That’s dumb."

      Co-sign. I've always said women have the power in relationships. If a woman doesn't give it up after a month, she has an opportunity to see if the man truly desires her, not just her goodies. If a man is just looking for beats, he'll go after easier targets if a woman keeps her legs closed until she gets some kind of commitment.

    3. If the person is getting all the benefits without having to put a title on it or make a commitment–why should they?

      I don't really blame men for it. We women have more say so than we give ourselves credit. We teach the man how to treat us.

  8. I don't know… To me, this and all others questions of the like are annoying. Why? Because they're 'round about questions… There's nothing wrong with a person on either side querying about the potential of making something official or asking to move into something of a more exclusive nature; But just don't ask 'round about questions to get that answer. Instead of asking: "What are we doing?" or "Do you want to end this?" just ask the person if they want to be exclusive or not (right then) then make a decision. Otherwise, if it's me, I'll answer with the most literal answer I can think of.

    1. It seems people like to beat around the bush instead of being direct. If more direct communication happened between the sexes, it would cut down on a whole lot of confusion and save some busted windows.

  9. i've been in this situation before. i've told women that i have no intentions of making her my girlfriend. we could enjoy each other's company but that was about it. i think that my actions reflected what my intentions were as well. it never failed that questions would eventually surface. i think they didn't listen to what i was saying and thought that they could eventually wear me down. *shrug* eventually things ended because i got tired of them asking questions that they definitely knew the answers to.

    1. I know the feeling. It never fails that you state what you want and you act like you stated … yet for some reason your just not believed.

      Just don't make no sense.

    2. Tunde, those women just knew they would be the ones to change your mind. You became a challenge to them.

      Women need to believe the words that comes out of a man's mouth. I don't care if he's wining and dining you. If he says, he doesn't want a commitment–it is what it is.

  10. No, I have not been asked nor have I asked the question "do you want to end this?"

    For starters, if you feel the need to ask me this question then i'm obviously, 100% going to say yes. If you are so much as thinking about 'ending' whatever arrangement we have going on then YUP it's probably fair to say that I/we have milked it for all it's worth and I appreciate the ride.

    Now I have never asked the question myself because by the time i'm already thinking about 'ending it'…consider it ended already. I probably have not been answering your calls, probably aren't calling you either…really not making any contact whatsoever with you a** because if you are not my man then I don't owe you any courtesy…ON TO DA NEXT ONE!

    1. You just touched on one of my biggest pet peeves about this dumb question. If I wanted to end things, why don't you think I would have just done it already? Do I look like someone incapable of deading something?

      1. @ SBM…I really wouldn't know cuz I don't know what you look like! lol. But on the real…instead of asking such a useless question just come out with what you REALLY mean. What do you REALLY think about me and this pseudo relationship lol.

        1. I don't look as mean in real life as I come off … but I do have a side eye that can stop traffic.

          "Do you want to dead this?"

          **SBM side eye**

          "Sorry for asking a stupid question. Let me bless the mic to make up for wasting your time."

      2. I sort of disagree. Some men (and women) will not come out and verbalize they want out of a relationship. You can ask them until you're blue in the face. But their actions show you want they want out of the relationship.

        So people will not always say what they want.

        1. And I don't mean any offense to 'those' people but they deserve what they get in the end-whatever that may be. Maybe it pans out the way they want it to, or maybe they get taken for a ride, used, and abused all because they cannot assert themselves. SBM, you should write about such people because they don't really have any right to complain about how they are not getting what they want or are getting what they don't want out of a situation like this. I mean…this is a bit ludicrous. I won't advocate for people like that. I'm sorry but I firmly think that such bullsh*t shouldn't even be a discussion. It seems self-evident doesn't it? If you don't ASSERT yourself, you are subject to all types of bull from others.

        2. I agree – "If you don’t ASSERT yourself, you are subject to all types of bull from others."

          People need to take more control of their lives instead of giving others control of it.

  11. This is a case of people abdicating responsibility, avoiding decision making, and letting other people define what they want. By asking, “do you want to end this?”, they are trying to make the other person make the decision that they should be making, and simply going with the flow. Usually this is a sign of a weak person that doesn’t want to be the bad guy by ending the “relationship”, although they are not getting what they want. Don’t waste time pursuing someone who isn’t looking for something serious if you are. If things aren’t moving in a more serious direction after six to twelve months, it probably never is.

    Janelle and Simping Simon are asking the wrong question. They should be saying one of the following:

    1. Ask the less craven, but infinitely more annoying question: “Where is this relationship going?” It doesn’t take six months to tell if things are moving in a more serious direction. Stop holding onto something that’s a temporary fix.

    2. Be direct and tell them, “it’s over”. Tell the other person I’m not looking for FWB or just someone to go out with on the weekends. If you cut off the money/c00chie supply, the user will move on. If they want something more, they will tell you that and act appropriately.

    1. Co-Sign. But I have to say…what is with this 6-12month business?? I think 3 months is AMPLE time to tell if you are interested in something more serious. By the time you've waited 6 months or more to figure this out…you've wasted half a year of your life on foolishness. I can't get with that. Just me though.

      1. Ain't nothing wrong with 6 months.

        There might be some "on the fence" factors. Suppose the rehab program doesn't end until the 6 month mark?

        1. But really are you serious? What in the sam hell would garner me waiting around for 6 damn months to find out that a) your just not that into me

          b) youve met someone else you like more than me

          c) Your an ass

          I can see all that type of foolishness far before 6 months

        2. I'm not saying 6 months should be the norm … but there are cases of extenuating circumstances where 6 months could be justified. Also, if you are giving him 100% of your time and fill resources … then 6 months is too long to be in purgatory.

    2. 90% of the time when I see someone asking the question its like they are looking for the "yes" that they can't deliver themselves.

      Sad …

    3. Some of these conversations should happen before it even gets to the "benefits" stage. If all you're looking for is a FWB, then let it be known up front. If you're looking for more or a committed relationship–speak it or don't be surprised when it never leads to that because you never had the conversation to see what the other person's intentions were.

      1. Why Hello @ Shelia Goss. Do you remember a lil post on my topic? let me refresh your memory when you said:

        "So people will not always say what they want."

        And now you are advocating for the opposite…sorry what exactly are your OWN personal views on the issue?

  12. Andressa: "But I have to say…what is with this 6-12month business?? I think 3 months is AMPLE time to tell if you are interested in something more serious."

    Just an arbitrary number. The point is you should be able to see if something serious is progressing or if the person just wants some good good.

    1. Ok thanks for the clarification…but still 6 months…what an arbitrary number to choose i'm like 6months!! I might need a brain scan if I can't figure where this is going by then. But I hear you. Obrigado!

  13. Timely topic for me. I'm in a long-distance "boo" relationship with a guy I've known since high scool. We just got back in touch last summer after 10 years apart and have been in daily contact since November. About a month ago, he asked me to be his "boo" and "see where this goes" (we both still date others). But, I haven't seen this ninja since November!

    My spidey-sense is starting to tingle a bit. Is he dragging me along? Why won't he spend $150 on a plane ticket to come see me or for me to go see him (he says law school apps are killin him right now…which DOES make sense)?

    He initiates convo with me every morning. Just to talk and see how my day is. He's super respectful. We've never kissed. No nooky has been had, so now cow vs. milk situation here (although he's made it obvious that's in his eventual plans. The nooky, not the cow).

    Am I being silly by second-guessing his intentions? Maybe he's really a good guy that is seriously interested…

    Or am I getting pulled for the okey doke by continuing to entertain him? Decisions, decisions…

    1. Timeout – you're in a long distance relationship and haven't even kissed?

      Yeah son is either doing his thing in his state or he's C.E.O. of Simptastic magazine. GEESH!

      1. @Streetz

        Lol – He's not a simp. We both agreed that it wouldn't be fair to not go out and meet other people. I guess it just means that we like each other "the best" right now?? IDK, it's definitely new territory for me, so I'm unsure about how to explain it to people…

        1. I can explain it perfectly.

          He's either a simp or treating you like a hobby chick. Unfortunately, I've written my post for the week, but next week I will delve into the mystery of the Hobby chick.

        2. I was actually thinking of saying this same thing earlier. Never named it the Hobby Chic … but I 100% co-sign and know what you talking about.

          Hmmm … might be some topic stealing going on behind the scenes.

        3. LOL! Dang, not the hobby chic!!

          I did ask directly about this possibility, cause it crossed my mind. "Am I just the chick you see when you come to Atl?" He said that wasn't the case, if it was, he would only holla at me when he came through Atlanta. And he doesn't. He hasn't been to Atlanta since last fall and we still talk everyday.

          Man…I really hope I'm not the hobby chic…gotta a chic second-guessing and what not…lol

        1. Well some laws are just of the land

          lol

          I should not buy my own engagement ring

          I should not ask you to be my husband

          Need I go on?

          Me buying my own ticket will only serve the purpose of inflating his head and it may open a pandoras box of me doing things the guy should do

        2. lol! I know it seems like b.s., but it's just the way things are. Funny, but y'all are quick to pull the "it's just the way it is" line when it comes to the woman's virtue….

          And yeah, lauinsofia said it right – put it on the list with the first date and the engagement ring as "Stuff Your Woman Will Not Financially Support".

        3. There are certain things that fall into "that's the way it is" … but I am adamant that a plane ticket is not one of them.

          I had a rather large argument with someone about this. The first time I heard it I actually could barely believe what I was hearing. It literally did not compute.

        4. Well your about to have an even larger one (argument) So lets be nice about it and just agree to disagree

          Falls in line with …….

          Knowing when to stay quiet

          and the ever true Happy wife makes a happy life

        5. And its not A plane ticket Its The 1st plane ticket Theres a difference really there is

        6. Well, I can't say I really see the difference between the first and the second … its a plane ticket, not a date. But … we can agree to disagree.

          But, for Ash's situation, she specifically mentioned dude is applying to law school. I know my MBA application process cost me several thousand dollars, so all the more reason she can hop that airtran flight to go see him.

        7. I have to call a "Red card" on these women saying "that's the way it is" when SBM asks why the girl can't pay the 150.

          You cannot and will not have it both ways. You want a relationship with a dude who seems like he's all that and a bag of chips, but yet you won't take the risk to make it happen.

          And they wonder why good men are hard to find…

          If we are in a world of gender equality then…

          yes, you buy your own engagement ring (esp if I'm buying the wedding one!)

          Yes, you pay your own way on a date.

          Yes, women can / should sometimes ask a guy out.

          This stupid, outdated game of forcing the man to do things first (so that women never take any risks) worked in a very different culture/society. Now dudes (outside of simpish ones) aren't co-signing on this nearly as much anymore. The many, many threads of women being frustrated on this forum about the death of chivalry, lack of 'good men', etc. are evidence of this.

          Maybe then, "the way it is" should change.

        8. @laurinsofia, @Anna N., @Ash:

          Exactly what part of showing a guy you're not willing make an effort to travel to see him will make him think you're worth the long-distant commitment?

          I agree there are things I feel I should do as a man, but those things whatever they are, are chosen by me as a sign of how much a care about the lady (in particular)/her importance and is NOT assigned to me by culture or some random woman's expectations. #justsaying #overandout

        9. @ meteorman Ahh Did you just call me random? lol I can tell you had this discussion before also lol I agree that it takes effort by both to make any realtionship grow But Im old school in regards to some 1st moves should be made or introduced if you will By the man I dont like having to put on my man pants and calling all the shots

          Belive me when I say I will be very appreciative gratefull thankfull and you will know it Once I land in your city on the ticket you purchased And isnt that the kind of grattitude all men want

          Im just sayin

        10. There's so much going on here. Nothing says, "I'm desperate." like paying your own way to see someone – especially on the first trip! Let me just quote you:

          "but those things whatever they are, are chosen by me as a sign of how much a care about the lady (in particular)/her importance "

          Exactly – so if the gentleman feels that the lady is important enough, HE will make a way to see her. Maybe he will wait until his applications are finished and fly to her. Or he will fly her out to see him.

        11. @laurinsofia

          Nah. I wasn't calling you "random." lol But honestly, such an early point, to a guy across the country, you might just be that. You haven't had the time to develop any rank.

          But Im old school in regards to some 1st moves should be made or introduced if you will By the man I dont like having to put on my man pants and calling all the shots

          That's cool. Ol' skool and all… But he isn't your man… yet… So where are the pants? I think your point is that you don't want that to set the tone for the entire relationship (if it gets that far). I can understand and feel that, if that's your point… lol

        12. @Anna N.

          Chicken or the egg though? Shoudn't this it be mutual? I do think if any person can't afford to date, then choosing to date is nothing less than irresponsible. #notagoodlook

          "so if the gentleman feels that the lady is important enough, HE will make a way to see her"

          I noticed you said, "gentleman." Well, then yeah. I totally agree as long as you're willing to stay in a 'lady's place' #seeandnotheard But more than likely this is just selective use of gender roles for personal benefit. Which is cool and all… Just say that's what it is. 🙂 #respectthehustle

        13. One very important point that Meteor made was its a budding long distance relationship. This isn't a first date in the same city type of experience.

          If I was him, I would be on the other end thinking "this chic is faking, because she isn't even remotely trying to come see me!"

          In the "Old School" … I don't think this long distance "dating" just wouldn't have occurred. Its a new day … a new day!

        14. I agree with laurinsofia. there's a difference between a visit and the 1st visit. he should be coming to her, or paying for her to come see him. and it is because "she's the girl" yep.

        15. @ Reecie,

          "I agree with laurinsofia. there’s a difference between a visit and the 1st visit. he should be coming to her, or paying for her to come see him. and it is because “she’s the girl” yep."

          Thank you! So glad I'm not flying solo with my reasoning. It's killin SBM softly tho…lol

        16. @Ash

          Nothing soft about how much this nonsense is killing me.

          Ya'll about to raise my blood pressure.

          Woosa n sh*

    2. I think we may have been seeing the same guy lol I kid but was in a very simmilar sit

      It was entertaining but it got old And with him not making the move on a ticket I started to feel a lil played But you have to do whats best for you and in your timing But for me the cons out weighed the pros and my feelings were being hurt in the process

      Just like the cow verses the milk for free If he truley wanted to be with you i mean see you He would make it happen

    3. Wooow! Went to lunch and came back to craziness.

      He needs to buy my plane ticket to show me he wants me. Following plane tickets can be co-sponsored or up to me or alternating or whatever. But as someone said above, this FIRST ticket?! Yeah, homie needs to come up on that one.

      If I buy the ticket, I look hard-pressed. He's the man, pursue me dammit!

      I understand the law school thing, so my naturally impatient self is learning a new virtue.

      SBM and others, I read this blog a lot. If a woman makes herself too available or won't let you be the man, you seem to get all up in arms about it and your manhood is threatened. I'M LETTING HIM BE THE MAN!

      If I bought the ticket (which yes, I can afford to do), then I'm taking the lead in this. And if we're still together in 5 years, he'll be running around telling his friends how I chased and wore him down. Naw playa.

      And I'm not a gold-digger. I really like this guy. We could literally sit at the house, play Wii and rent videos, eat pizza and drink beer, and I'd be thrilled. Honestly. For real for real.

      Gah…What do yall want from us?!

      1. I think you are definitely taking some of the stuff I and others have said waaay out of context.

        First date … I feel you.

        Forcing him to buy the first plane ticket has nothing to do with him being a man. We aren't talking about what you do when you get there or who makes the first move, but you buying the ticket to see him doesn't signal these things.

        I think every man on this site that has spoken on it is clearly disagreeing with what you just said.

        1. LOL! I'm not mad at yall. I wanna know what you think. But, I bet I can go back into a previous post and find you giving advice that directly contradicts what you all are saying here. I just don't think me buying that first plane ticket is setting myself up for success.

          In our previous get togethers (3), he bought drinks the first time, we split dinner the second, and the third was on my company. So, it's not like I'm not open-minded.

        2. LMAO! No. He said he'd buy my ticket. When he wants to see me, he'll make that move. I'm just getting impatient, that's all…

      2. Awwwhhh you sound so in love or so soon in love I hope things go well I didnt have that patients quality But I do wish it for you For me I started to get angry So i squashed it We still speak But its not relationshipy (I know not a word) Advice take a step back before geting angry Him not getting the ticket Dose not make him a bad person Sometimes guys need a lil more time to see the light

        I think you know what Im saying lol

    4. Ash I don't know you, but I'll tell you like I would tell my best friend. Whatever you start off doing–expect to keep it up. If you're having all these reservations, that may be a sign you need to step back and re-evaluate the situation.

      He wants you to be his boo–what does that mean? Being from Louisiana and all, we call everybody boo so that don't mean jack–its just another word of endearment.

      Men are going to say, no big deal about you paying; women are going to say, hell no you shouldn't be paying.

      My question is–why can't he come see you? Why can't you meet half way? Do you really want to do a long distance relationship? I understand you guys used to know each other; but people change. It would be different if you guys were in a relationship and the other person had to move because of their job.

      Those are just some things to think about. It's your life and you're more in control than you think–so do the right thing for you.

      1. @Shelia,

        You are right, I call everybody boo, too! We discussed what boo meant and decided it means we like each other, we're both attracted, and we both want to see where this goes, but we're both allowed to continue to date and see other people. So, while I do like him, I'm not trying to marry him. Just trying to spend time with him.

        He can come see me. It's on the table. We can meet halfway, that's on the table as well (though that may be more expensive, as a hotel may be involved), so it doesn't make sense if money is the issue.

        I'm ok with a long distance thing (I hesitate to call it a full blown relationship). It's forcing us to take our time and get to know each other with no physical stuff clouding our judgement (we all know the physical can make you think you're in love).

        Good food for thought though!

        1. Cool – "It’s forcing us to take our time and get to know each other with no physical stuff clouding our judgement (we all know the physical can make you think you’re in love)."

          LOL…yes, we definitely know how the physical can blind you.

  14. "And its not A plane ticket Its The 1st plane ticket Theres a difference really there is." EXACTLY!

    SBM – it's not that we want to be flown out all the time. But the first time? Reach for that wallet, bruh. Specially for a ticket that only costs $150.

    1. Sorry … I can't get with it.

      I can "kind of" understand waiting until he can come visit you first (not really … but I'll concede something) … but I couldn't see me buying her a ticket to come visit me. Whose trying to spend $200 on the first date?

      Also as I mentioned, this poor brother is applying to law school. Between visits and applications fee, I know my pursuit of an MBA has cost me in the thousands.

      1. I feel you on that – really the best first step is for HIM to get a ticket and fly out to her. And yes, I think that waiting until he finishes the application process will be best. If he doesn't have $150 for a ticket he won't have the money to show her a good time whether they're in her city or his. Seems like he's short on money and time right now.

        But this gets into my theory that broke men should take a dating hiatus. And I don't think the fellas like that one too much, lol.

        1. I can hear the drum roll to the (He) responces on that one But so true Dating Hiatus I like that lol

          I mean as a man dont you want to bring something to the table when were 1st dating

          But Anna N then we would have to address the sisters out here Spread eagle while the whole date takes place between there legs

          If we didnt have cheap date acceptors We wouldnt have Cheap dates

          Owch

          Sorry

        2. @Anna N. – Hey now… Here's my $0.02. It's 2010, if she wants to see him. It's perfectly okay to man up and buy the ticket. It's not about manners it's about not wanting to pay the money. These days women have to be go-getters in every facet of their life. They can't pick and choose when they will and won't be. I say drop the dough and get the ticket. You won't look desperate, you'll look determined.

        3. I want him to want to see me …….and make it happen

          Im my Mouse from the color purple voice

        4. I can see where you're coming from…..but to me the issue is not about who makes more at any given time. It's about a woman allowing a man to problem solve rather than jumping up to solve the problem for him. And yes, I consider the issue of how they will get together to be his problem, not hers.

        5. This is his problem that he has to solve? Why and how?

          And as every single guy who has spoken on it has said, we would not feel slighted, emasculated, insulted, or offended if she flew to see him. If she bought him a ticket … well … yeah … maybe I could see that.

          And are we forgetting the extenuating circumstances?!?! Law school anyone.

          If I was dude, I would dead it if I read this.

        6. @ Dr. J

          "@Anna N. – Hey now… Here’s my $0.02. It’s 2010, if she wants to see him. It’s perfectly okay to man up and buy the ticket. It’s not about manners it’s about not wanting to pay the money. These days women have to be go-getters in every facet of their life. They can’t pick and choose when they will and won’t be. I say drop the dough and get the ticket. You won’t look desperate, you’ll look determined."

          The key word here is "man up." If we are trying to let yall be the man, you want us to man up? Then, when it's a real relationship and I'm still trying to "man up" (cause that's how we started out, when it was convenient for you and your pockets) you're gonna be mad that I won't let you be the man…SMH. I don't get it???

        7. Its funny because Foxx's "She got her own" just came on the radio.

          I'm not gonna go into it, but this is some BS for real. He should stop dating because he is spending money trying to get into law school? And weather it's law school, undergrad, or he got laid off … I gotta say that I now worry about the the future of black love based off that comment.

          *sigh*

        8. I like him, so I'm not mad he's low on cash. When I said we could eat pizza and play Wii if it means we get to spend time – I'm cool with that. I don't think low cash means that you stop dating. I think it means you find out if people are there for the right reasons, though.

        9. exactly Anna! if he's not willing to come up of $$ to fly her out–he can at least drive/fly to see her. we understand folks are on budgets, but if he think she's worth it, he needs to come thru!

      2. How is this even an issue?

        If a couple commits to having a long-distance relationship, they should assume they will be paying to see each other. So why is it a big deal if the woman pays first? I understand not paying for a first date, but when did that expand to travel? The first date argument doesn't even apply: this isn't some random dude the woman just met, this is a man she's obviously knows well enough, long enough, and cares about enough that they made a commitment despite the distance.

        Now if a woman is paying for consecutive tickets, then you can give the side-eye.

    2. So that must mean there's some negative connotation to some woman asking a guy out on a first date (and paying). Gender roles much? So are you implying that making a first financial move is part of 'being a man'? I doubt allowing a woman to take me out on a first date will cause me have any less respect for her or lessen her chances. Courtship is still two sided…

      1. Really ?

        Taking this way too personaly No, your finances do not make your manhood

        Ofcourse not

        Geeeesh

        You really are from Mars

        All we here on Venus are trying to get you to understand is Spending a lil in the begining on lil ol us on a growing relationtionship Speaks volums

        Ladies, how hot do you get when dude pays a bill

        Talk about about forplay lol

        Uhhh yes and my Sprint # is 404-31——

        lmao

        1. You say money doesn't define your manhood, but then you say that a guy should go on a "dating hiatus" (you didn't say it … but you gave a co-sign) if he is broke?!?!

          I'm confused … what are you saying?

        2. Im saying just that

          One has nothing to do with the other

          Damn

          If your broke You should not be dating I agree

          Your being broke dosent not affect your manhood

          What are you saying That you need to be seeing a woman to be a man????

          I know what I said the two opions have absolutley nothing to do with each other

        3. I agree. Forplay can involve finances… most def… Aren't the dynamics different given the location of the parties involved? I mean, the issue I have is women feeling homie should, as if it's a requirement. Should a women sit there and force this man who's trying to better himself to choose between missing out on who he may think is a great person and law school app fees?!?! It's not about the "ol' skool" or him being broke. It's about his fair chance doesn't exist due to one of the very reasons that may make him attractive. So this notion of should in this case, would be in direct conflict with an attractive aspect that would have a woman want him to see her. Contradict much?

          I agree that traditional male controlled courtship is essential. However, there's a place and time for everything and a way to do things to make it work without conceding on your own wants as a woman. Sometimes it just doesn't apply.

          My mom and coach both told me that in order to prevent from hurting myself, I have to be flexible.

        4. Chuuch … your second one for the day.

          I just don't understand how the fact that he is a good dude, who is applying to law school, and is an old friend doesn't come into play at all.

          I can't help but notice this situation is being treated like some random reggin from twitter. If that was the case … I could feel the female argument.

        5. @MeteorMan,

          "Should a women sit there and force this man who’s trying to better himself to choose between missing out on who he may think is a great person and law school app fees?!?! "

          Hold up there, homie. I NEVER said he had to choose. Never. When he told me the law apps vs. plane ticket, I was sad. Not cause he was choosing school, but because I was looking forward to seeing him sooner rather than later. I told him I know he has other priorities and that I understood. Under no circumstances did I make him feel bad about the law school apps.

          Does that mean I'm going to buy a plane ticket? No. It just means I'll wait until all the law school apps are done and he can re-up on his dough and buy a ticket..

        6. I co-sign with this! And I am a female. Where I am from (originally, SaoP, BR) dating and courtship is rather male dominated. I would expect everything financially to be put out on his side. These were not my views per se but this is generally how it is done where i'm from. When I moved to North America and saw the liberty that women have and the choice to be assertive, or passive, or aggressive (:S) I was challenged to broaden my horizon's on this topic. Currently I have a childhood friend going to Med School in the Cayman Islands and we have both considered dating for awhile. NOW this is somewhat similar to your case. Let me tell you…since I am already a working woman, and he is on his grind and we decide to try and work this out…I don't have one problem buying a ticket to see him b/c I know his worth. I wouldn't do it for some random i'd been talking to for a few months. We're talking someone known from a long time that I can vouch for…Now my mae being from the old school is reserved on this, but I understand the time and place that she was raised in. As for my generation…things are changing, change with it.

    3. @ Anna N.

      "SBM – it’s not that we want to be flown out all the time. But the first time? Reach for that wallet, bruh. Specially for a ticket that only costs $150."

      Yes. Future tickets are totally up for discussion. Heck, once he gets here or I get there, I'll spring for dinner/entertainment. I just need him to show me that he's willing to take that step – I'll gladly meet him halfway.

  15. I personally think that the key to both scenarios is this simple statement / observation:

    80% of questions are statements in disguise.

    To me – of course the answer is "No." But be ready and prepared for the fallout in both scenarios, lol…questions such as that are official notice that the gravy train is about to end….

    1. Then why not just say it and be direct?

      Next time I want some water from the kitchen from the SO I'll just ask "Don't you think that if my glasses aren't filled with water on the regular basis, then I have wasted my money? In addition, don't you think providing for your SO is so much more fulfilling than asking of them?"

      Then I'll brace myself for the dummy slap.

      1. Shaking my head

        I can shut all of this down and just ask yall to ask What your momsduke would say on the 1st ticket issue

        Mom dosent only always know best because shes mom

        Its because shes a girl too

        lol

        1. My mom doesn't know how to send or receive a text message and hasn't dated for over the past 30 years (yeah … parents been together for a minute).

          Sorry … but I just wouldn't consider her a credible source for dating in 2010.

          My grandmother is still around too … I could go to her next …

        2. See this is were your missing the point

          Its not about When in time we are dating

          Its about Whats exspected regardless of it being 2011 or the 1800's

        3. In my opinion, expecting the same thing in 1800 as you do in 2010 is … well crazy.

          If that is the case, don't speak your voice to any man in defiance, don't vote, don't go to college, and if you aren't barefoot carrying child right now … you better be churning some butter.

        4. Sorry … I like to argue.

          Also, this particular topic happens to hit close to home.

          1) He is applying to grad school (finished my apps in January)

          2) Paying for plane tickets are involved (argument with an ex)

        5. I kinda got that and I see HER point clearly Wth is the big deal with a woman wanting her man to want to see her enough to buy the ticket This arguement may have been about something else and may have been covered by the ticket

          Regardless looking back on it now If you cant say that just buying the damn ticket would made her happy even after the argument What can you say

          Taking one for the team to make baby happy

          I am sorry if things didnt work out

          We fight about the darndist things Dont we?

        6. Are you my ex? I swear I done heard these exact words before.

          I got more to say … but I'm gonna let it go. Don't want to stay at work till 9 trying to make up my time.

        7. k

          same here

          And no Im not your ex cause If I were we would still be together cause you would have gotten the damn ticket

          giggles

          Its all love

    1. I feel you baby

      lol

      Just like I dont want to be totally dependent on my man Its not healthy If I can help you financialy on some instances on our lil journey to being an US fine i will But I exspect you to lead and be the head and all that stuff

    2. Generally speaking, Dating is the #1 source of beats, dome, and titty rubbing.

      Are you suggesting that if I am temporarily broke I have to give up all three of these things? Broke and single people don't deserve butt?!?!

      1. No and for that (beats dome and titty rubbing) there will always be That girl and every once in a while she lucks up and gets wifed

        But Im not her

      2. They do get dome cause they can date and see people.

        And in this case, dude isn't just a broke person … he is applying to law school. I wish someone would tell me to stop dating because I'm saving up for my MBA … I wish.

        1. exactly

          Your not gonna do it Your not gonna delay your happiness of anothers company

          Im assuming you not that broke then if your dating

          Broke is not having the money to take a female anywhere to later maybe get some kissyface or maybe even dome lol

  16. I've both been asked and I've done the asking. I think it can occur when people feel as though one person in the relationship is catching feelings and the other person is not going. Personally, I think re-evaluating sex only relationships every now and then helps it flow a little better.

  17. Ok, I officially can't keep all these replies straight so I'm startin' a new thread, lol. But to clarify my statement about the "Dating Hiatus"………

    Now I can only speak for myself (and every other woman I know) but we kinda side with Kanye on this one: "Do like I did, come back when you get dough!"

    I really enjoy my job, and they pay me well for it. However, no amount of money I make will have me wanting to steal my man's pants from the closet, lol. Figuring out how we're going to see each other falls squarely under "man shyt" in my book.

    And, quite the opposite, women give a (real) man props when he takes the time to get himself together. Real talk, if you were laid off 6 months ago with no income stream in sight I don't want to see you at the club, in the mall or anywhere else just scoping for women. Of course, you can catch a quickie on the broke tip. But this is also a perfect example of men saying they want one thing but actually responding to another. Kind of like the sex issue. You say you want a woman who will "work with you". But the best results I've seen came when the woman didn't deal with the man until he came correct. The woman buying a plane ticket for the first trip is NOT coming correct.

    1. Maybe its just me … but I think things are just being taken to the extreme.

      Not coming correct includes:

      – Still living at mom's house with no goals or desire to move out after age 24

      – Not having a car in a non-commuter city

      – Still smoking crack

      – Working at McDonalds

      I'm sorry, I love you like a sister I would fight with every day, but I just don't see how him not paying for the first plane ticket when he is knee deep in law school applications is such a huge violation of "coming correct". I am all for women having standards, but damn.

      1. You are being freaking rediculous now

        I mean come on

        Are you serious? If your not coming correct includes

        that list You will always have a woman Stop making excuses

        Ohh you forgot to add

        That lil stint of jail time that ended up being 10 years and

        the fact that hes gay and just dosent know it yet

        1. Obviously there is more stuff on the list. I would even include things like "not paying on the first date".

          But … this first ticket nonsense … it didn't even get an honorable mention.

          But I will say it made it into consideration for the 2010 Guide to Simping, but didn't get enough votes.

      2. Still smokin' crack? You're trying to get me fired today LOL!

        My point is not that ole boy should just buy her ticket while he's in the middle of applications and broke. My point is that he should FIGURE IT OUT. He can fly to her. He can drive to her. He can fly her out to him. But we act like there isn't something else missing from the equation besides his money – his TIME. Clearly the man is busy and is investing in his future. No decent woman will think less of him for this – but we want to sit back and see how a MAN handles himself. Presented with this situation, how does he handle it? Do you run to the woman with your hand out? Do you sulk because she doesn't jump at the chance to buy the ticket? Or does he do like he's been doing – keep the communication open and frequent so that she has no questions about his intentions and wait until his situation is stable enough to see her?

        And of course, you can date and get some action while you're broke same as you can find some one night stand action in the club. But at the end of the day, it's the woman who DIDN'T give a man what he wanted that becomes the wife.

        1. Oh really???? These women became wives? I know of two situations where the woman made the sacrifice while the guy was in med school/laid off. Both times the woman extended themselves to see their dudes. In return the dude made a way too. Both women are HAPPILY MARRIED.

          I've said this before, just not on this site. It's all about the agenda. I've known women who said hell no too or refused to give a man what he wanted and ended up alone. It's all about the AGENDA at the end of the day.

        2. I know someone who's married to their "one night stand". I also know of a very tight couple who were together for a decade before they got married – doesn't mean I'd recommend it, lol. I wouldn't put your examples on that same level. However, I have more horror stories from women who put themselves out on a limb than I do success stories. Guess the results will tell – if she buys the ticket and he plays her she'll say it was a bad idea. If she buys the ticket and they get married a year later she's a genius, lol.

        3. I know I seem like I am in complete disagreement, but I know exactly what your talking about. Men do need to be able to handle certain things.

          But (you know that sh* was coming) … this is just one of those cases where it is ok (and welcomed) for her to show some interest. They have already been out on dates, he talks to her all the time, and he is applying to law school.

          Women need to know that men want a woman who will hold them down and not be afraid to show some real interest.

          Sometimes you make it seem like her paying for her own plane ticket is some super desperate act. reggin please

        4. @Anna,

          "My point is that he should FIGURE IT OUT. He can fly to her. He can drive to her. He can fly her out to him. But we act like there isn’t something else missing from the equation besides his money – his TIME. Clearly the man is busy and is investing in his future. No decent woman will think less of him for this – but we want to sit back and see how a MAN handles himself. Presented with this situation, how does he handle it? Do you run to the woman with your hand out? Do you sulk because she doesn’t jump at the chance to buy the ticket? Or does he do like he’s been doing – keep the communication open and frequent so that she has no questions about his intentions and wait until his situation is stable enough to see her? "

          This. Yes!!! I swear you're in my brain…I want to see him function this out. I'm not faulting him for the law school apps (that ish is sexy), but those don't take away from the fact that I want him to take the lead if he wants me. He has even said that my standards are refreshing and set me apart from other women.

          While I'm still treading carefully to ensure I'm not played for a fool, the hopeful part of me wants to believe that he's genuinely, seriously interested and that when he can, he will make the necessary moves to see me.

  18. "If someone is given everything they want, they have no incentive to stop or end. If it is taken from them, they can’t do anything about it … but why would they give it up."

    This post hit it on the nail. After 6 months and you're just friends with benefits, I don't see it going any further than that.

    About to read some of the other comments.

  19. Okay! I've been reading all the comments on this post and I had to come out of "lurkdom".

    First, about the post itself, I feel like people should SPEAK UP". As a woman, I think we should express what we expect the outcome to be. If a dude doesn't want what we are looking for, then move on. CALL IT QUITS. Now if he wants what you are looking for or if he is willing to work with you, then pass go and collect $200. lol I told my the dude I'm currently in a relationship with what I wanted UP FRONT. After almost three months, I had the "shit-or-get-off-the-effing-pot" (in a nice way, of course) talk. There was no "where is this going" or "do you want to end this" double talk. I'm good.

    Second, about ol' girl paying for a ticket, I'm siding with the fellas on this one. If you want to see dude, BUY A TICKET AND SEE HIM. I don't think it will show desperation on your part, especially if dude is knee deep in application debt. Now what goes on once she gets there is on him of course (kinda ol' school). Now if dude was working and making some loot, then um yeah HE NEEDS TO FLY TO SEE ME.

    Some women's standards are wild. At the same time though, I think there is a post on this site that talked about women wearing dudes down. That would contradict the guys point. IMO

    1. "Second, about ol’ girl paying for a ticket, I’m siding with the fellas on this one. If you want to see dude, BUY A TICKET AND SEE HIM. I don’t think it will show desperation on your part, especially if dude is knee deep in application debt. Now what goes on once she gets there is on him of course (kinda ol’ school). Now if dude was working and making some loot, then um yeah HE NEEDS TO FLY TO SEE ME."

      He does have a job. He's been working for a few years. He took a break and is now going back to school. It's not like the man is straight out of undergrad with no job. I have no idea how much he makes (and don't care), but he is gainfully employed, for the record.

  20. Oh yeah…6 months is too long to still be in gray area purgatory. I think after two season changes and y'all are still at the same spot with no discussion, chances are you are a permanent FwB. #beentheredonethat Stop trying to be the cool chick. Standards and Requirements–Get Some. (lol the only thing I agreed on with Stevie Harvey)

  21. Ladies, better question to ask…"we've been kicking it for a while. Should I start seeing other people?" (and actually be willing to do so).

  22. Lmao… this post went in today. Wow.

    Ever since I hit my 20s I've been living life in that grey area. But you must know that I will/can/have walk(ed) away at any given time so while you thought you may have been getting the milk for free, I needed to be milked #shrugs and when I'm done & we've made no progress… then I bounce. No questions asked.

    I swear SBM taps my phone b/c I just declared last night I'm no longer living in the grey area. It gets old fast.

  23. I've been asked “do you want to end this?” and I understood why he was asking considering our situation… it wasn't a dumb question to ask me but I can see how it normally is dumb to ask.

    Okay, the converstion about ladies paying for plane tickets to go see the man has really got me thinking.

    I never thought a man should pay for the woman to come see him but if he does this, is he accountable for paying for everything while the woman is in town?

  24. @So Flyy so while you thought you may have been getting the milk for free, I needed to be milked

    Love it

    lol

  25. I still don't get it. No one attempted to explain how gender roles apply to this situation.

    – Man and women date.

    – Man pays for first date.

    – Man pays for several subsequent dates, although woman occasionally pays.

    – Man and woman are separated by hundreds of miles for whatever reason.

    So after all this, why is the man obligated to pay for the first plane ticket? He's paid for plenty during the relationship already. How is he not "man"ning up?

    1. I do realize my story is long and coming out in pieces, I just didn't think it was going to be today's hot topic.

      This would be our first get-together in the "we like each other" category. All other visits, meals, etc were on an "old friends getting reaquainted" tip. So, he has not come out a whole bunch of money for "dates" and other activities. He's bought drinks, we've split a dinner, and I've gotten dinner (on my company's tab. He left the tip). So. He has not "paid for plenty" already. This trip would technically be the beginning of our "courtship" or whatever…

      1. Ash, I feel you! I don't see why the men have a problem understanding where you are coming from. Some of the women are going in on you, too. You have a few supporters, I stand with you. First visit he should pay for it. point blank. period. Subsequent visits perhaps you can work out other financial arrangements with him….don't they get it, You want to know if this man really wants to see you before you trek across the country. If you offer to pay, of course he will say come on. Who wouldn't? You need that reassurance from him that he is worth investing a plane ticket on….if he pays for the ticket at least you will be sure he wants to see you. There will be no doubt in your mind…I get it. I don't understand the confusion.

        1. QueenT: "I don’t understand the confusion."

          Neither do I. It is understandable in Ash's specific case, because this is technically their first date. I believe a man should always pay for the first date.

          But in the case of a couple dating, then moving apart because of school or work, and they've been on 37 dates, most of which the man paid for, then why does he HAVE to pay for the ticket, which is really just part of the 38th date?

        2. @Hugh,

          I don't think any of the ladies are saying that once it's a steady long distance relationship that the dude should be the sole sponsor of the ticket. I think the general consensus is that it's this FIRST ticket that is the key. Any subsequent tickets are definitely up for discussion. None of the ladies said they wouldn't be open to purchasing 2nd, 8th and 456th tickets.

    2. I was speaking in general, since so many women were adamant about not paying to visit. Only you know what's best for your own situation.

  26. Why is it only the guy who can benefit from the grey area… sometimes good dick is good dick and if you get along with someone but know they aren't boyfriend material have fun without having to deal with that persons bullshit…sometimes people are just great lovers and thats all they will ever be. Women should just know exactly what they want and not settle for a FwB situation if they think they may want something more..find someone who can give you everything you want not just half.

  27. why is your page trippin? where is the good article on p*** from today??? damn i was finally having fun lol…

  28. Thank you for the wake up call! I was just about to bring up this stupid a$$ topic knowing full well that I wasn't going to get the truth. I'm not cool with being in the gray zone anymore. It's time to move now.

  29. Thank you for the wake up call! I was just about bring up this stupid a$$ topic, knowing full well that the answers I wanted weren't the answers I was going to get. I no longer want to be in the "gray area". So I need to walk away.

  30. Great article

    I know how profitable gold investing can be. My brother made really good money doing just that, and myself I am making good money investing in gold.

    I recommend to anyone who's thinking of starting to invest in gold to read a book or two on this topic, as there so many mistakes and blunders that are possible to make when you first start in this industry.

    Thanks for sharing this with your readers.

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