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Dear SBM,
I just want to know why men cheat after begging a woman to take them back? And does he think that because she took him back that she’ll put up with it? My coworker was telling us about an argument he had with the mother of his baby in which he ended by telling her that he’s not changing. I could see where her anger was coming from to a degree, I mean he did cheat on her so she was expecting him to be grateful that she took him back, but women’s intuition also tells me that she expected him to miraculously turn into a new person. Just some background for you, he admits to having side pieces throughout their entire relationship (including her pregnancy) and they broke up a few months after the baby was born because she found some evidence of his indiscretions. They got back together a few months ago but he still says that he’s cheating and will continue to do so as long as he wants. From the way he describes their current relationship, it seems as though he has gotten even more comfortable and offers no apologies for his behaviors in and out of the house. Of course, I realize that I have only really gotten half of these stories and he could just be exaggerating, but I doubt it. Why does a cheater even want to be in a relationship if he’s decided that he’s not going to be faithful? And does it signal to him that he can continue to cheat if a woman takes him back?
I’ll start off by quoting some statistics for context. I read a story earlier this year that estimated between 15 percent of women and 20 percent of men are unfaithful. Women are less likely to get caught. Ninety-five percent of women and 83 percent of men reported they “successfully” cheated without their spouses ever finding out. These are married people so who knows how desolate the landscape of relationships and pseudo-relationships looks. I only point this out to note that there are a number of unfaithful people among us and many of them will never get caught (or so they believe). Specific to your friend’s situation, you seem to have two main questions:
1) Why does a cheater even want to be in a relationship if he’s decided that he’s not going to be faithful? 2) Does it signal to him that he can continue to cheat if a woman takes him back?
Why do cheaters cheat?
Women like to believe that they have a more sophisticated justification behind when and why they cheat – and it’s very possible they do. However, cheating is cheating so I’m not sure why folks are so caught up on being the morally superior in their immoral actions. That said, I’ll focus today on why I believe most men cheat.
While a lot of people have asked a similarly phrased question, I think this is the equivalent of asking why do people look for work when they already have a job? Most cheaters are in a relationship for the exact same reasons as their partner. It’s very possible they sincerely believe they like/love the person they’re cheating on. Men cheat because they don’t understand or don’t care about the impact of their actions. It’s a selfish act. These men haven’t learned to think outside of themselves or even if they do, they don’t care enough to stop.Although people attempt to confuse the two, whether or not you believe monogamy is natural is independent from the fact that the rules governing a monogamous relationship are pretty straight forward. Cheating is a conscious choice to break those rules.
Some people believe that if you truly love a person you would never cheat on them. I disagree, because that belief dictates that emotion is what drives people to cheat or remain faithful. In reality, there is far more logic involved in not cheating than emotion. I think we can all agree that Love is an emotion. Given the large number of people that cheat on their loved ones each and every day of the week, it is obviously not enough to stop people from cheating. That’s where logic comes into play. Love might keep you in a relationship, but it’s logic that keeps you from straying, especially when you believe you won’t get caught. Someone told me recently that men are as faithful as their options. This is only somewhat accurate. Most men have options. Honestly, being in a relationship might increase a man’s options considering there are a certain group of women that like to go after committed men – but that’s another blog for another day.
Most unfaithful men aren’t seeking out an additional relationship. In fact, most men aren’t even looking to replace or give up the relationship they already have. Unfaithful men are generally only seeking to satisfy physical needs. There is a smaller group of men who are looking for a woman to satisfy something they’re not getting at home – usually something ego based – but even these men are rarely looking to leave the woman they’re with. Going back to the job analogy, if a man has a job (or woman) that meets all of his basic needs except for one or two extras, he really has no motivation to leave this great job simply to go back out into the job market (dating scene).
In 9 out of 10 cases, men aren’t looking to replace the woman they already have. The exception would be if he meets another woman that clearly supersedes the woman he is already with. This is rare for a few reasons: 1) if you’re already in a relationship, it’s difficult to get to know another woman beyond the physical; 2) the woman he is already with has a head start because he’s familiar with her in his life; and 3) the only thing more amazing than how long some women will stay with an unfaithful man is how long a side-woman is willing to remain in the side-woman role.
Are men’s reasons for cheating any different than women’s? Why would a man that knows he’s going to be unfaithful want to be in a relationship? Do you believe that once a cheater always a cheater? If not, what makes a cheater change and how can women tell the difference between a cheater who has reformed versus a cheater who is in remission?
1. Doubt it. At least not for the women I know. Whenever they cheat, they basically have the same reasoning I…ur…men do.
2. Well, if we're discussing the selfishness of the cheater, it makes perfect sense. Selfish men want everything. So if he knows he's already going to cheat, it really doesn't make a difference. He's got a girl who does everything…and he's got his side chick to take care of the extra.
3. Depends on the person. Some people well never be able to not cheat. Some people just aren't mature enough to handle "real" relationships.
4. The only thing that can make a "cheater change" is him/herself. Has to be an internal process and they have to want to. Same with any other 'personality' trait.
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I know of no person that goes into a relationship saying "I'm going to cheat on this person."
theres plenty who know they not ready for a relationship but get in one anyway…thats how it starts
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@Animate, I do. But to be more accurate, I know a few people that go into a relationship with the mindset of "I have no intention to be faithful to this person."
#also….I've had friends (only a couple, though) literally say that when they get married they know they're going to cheat…soooo there's that *shrugs*. I just smh and nod.
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My last boyfriend was a cheater, i found out and i decided to stay with him (i was 22- go figure). One day we were having an argument about me checking his facebook inbox, emails, etc and i was tell him that privacy is something he forfeited by choosing to cheat. He turned around and told me, i cant hold it over his head forever and anyway i had chosen to stay with him. I cant really remember the rest, but once a choice is made- good or bad there are consequences that follow. In the arena of cheating- the choices are usually very difficult to deal with- especially for the one cheated on. I decided to end the relationship later because i couldnt trust him and frankly because i'd made a poor choice initialy. I wasnt built with the stuff one needs to wait for a philandering man to change his ways.
In this lady's situation, she must hold on to the words of Maya Angelou "The first time someone shows you who they are, believe them". In this instance he has told her who he is, she better believe him and leave him!
"One day we were having an argument about me checking his facebook inbox, emails, etc and i was tell him that privacy is something he forfeited by choosing to cheat. "
That's the biggest load of crap, i've ever heard. I tell all men that if they find themselves in this situation, just break up with her. If you're going to trust someone, you have to do it without passwords and unlimited access.
After someone cheats in a relationship, if parties decide to work things out, you have to realise trust has been broken. One of the factors of restoring broken trust is openness, which -in my book- means unlimited access to everything.
However, I do agree that this situation is untenable and it is in both parties interests to terminate the relationship immediately.
Actually, I have to side with J. I cheated on a girl once and she tried to implement that "well now I'll treat you like a dog for the rest of forever" rule and it just didn't work. You can't forgive someone with stipulations. There's no separate set of rules that should be established. You either forgive them or you don't. If you dont, then the relationship just needs to end.
I don't agree with that. When you break someone's trust it is up to YOU to earn that back. If that means for her that you are transparent that that's what you do if you want to be with her.
All good. Agree to disagree.
But, given that line of reasoning, I guess I don't want to be with her. If you don't trust me, you just don't trust me. What we have is both a lack of trust and therefore a lack of a relationship. If y'all think you can be the girlfriend and the parole officer of a successful relationship, I respectfully wish yall the best in your future endeavours.
Granted they cannot be the girlfriend and the parole officer, but he cannot be the boyfriend and the secret agent.
Men and women operate differently, therefore you cannot treat women as though they should respond the way you would. It cannot be "I cheated. You forgave. Get over it." It has to be "I cheated. Thank you for forgiving me. How can we work to make our relationship better?"
As the person who messed up, you have to have at least have some bit of humility. No, she cannot go all psycho insecure and expect it to work. But he cannot go all psycho android with no feelings or compassion and expect it to work either.
I feel my message was either lost or un-clear somewhere in this thread. I'll end with this: To J's original point, if my Queen wants access to all my crap she can have access to all my crap. It's really not that big of a deal. The point I was making is if that wasn't the case beforehand, the rules don't change because you made the choice to forgive me. You don't become the morally superior maker of all rules of the relationship now because you forgave me – because that means you havent truly forgiven me.
To the original original point, if you can't get over it or don't feel like that trust can be gained back then, in my opinion, it's simply better to end the relationship. Seems like a pretty miserable existence for you to always be investigating me and me to always feel investigated. In that instance. I would personally dead the relationship and go our separate ways. I'd rather be alone and happy that in a relationship and miserable – which this existence y'all are ascribing to seems to now dictate.
What about in a marriage Wis? You can't just up and leave and walk away that easily. Well sometimes you can, but it can be a long and tedious process to completely seperate yourself from that person and divorce, (depending on which state you live in).
I agree with you. Someone I am ap in love with cheated on me and still lied when I found out we met at church. I found out April 1, 2013. Has suspected all along. Needed proof. He hasn't even offered am apology.
I agree with WidomIsMisery. I was married for 18 years and because my husband and I had so much history together after the first incident, We worked through it. After the second and possibly more (since our separation, information has just been dropping in my lap) I decided that while I loved him, I definitely loved me more, so I left. When my husband begged me for another chance (as he often did) I simply told him that I did not want to become that angry woman that I often see in situations like this. And I didn't want to be a part of a relationship where I had to check up on my partner or check every email, text etc. That's not a relationship, that life on probation. Cheating is an act of selfishness. When I asked my husband the proverbial "why", he simply stated that as a police officer, there was plenty of opportunities to do so. There, you have it.
Yes ma'am. I can't say I immediately thought I would leave my marriage over cheating. For better or worse and all that jazz. Plus, I loved him.
But the day I was with my husband and saw a woman that he just glanced at and wondered, "is that one of his hoes?" I knew that my marriage was over cause I was not about to live my life wondering if every woman I looked at had been with my husband. I didn't get married for that.
Agreed, I'd venture to tell ladies the same. If you NEED passwords and unlimited access the damage is done and you're looking at a downhill slope of insecurity. Just leave before you become "that girl".
im glad you said this because I didn't even have the time to comment on that BS
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I think if both parties decide they want to rebuild trust in the relationship, then that person should be completely open and understand that the privacy he/she once enjoyed isn't guaranteed. I personally wouldn't want to go through a man's email, facebook, and so on if he cheated and I decided to take him back. But, if he really wants to reconcile, I would like the option. If I see that he no longer locks his phone or he leaves his email open, I won't feel compelled to look, but I will recognize that he's trying to show me that he's open and he has nothing to hide.
@Young; i agree with that view point. I
IMO that's like saying if someone is talking on the phone next to you, you're not going to listen. I'm honestly not that big of a person. I want to trust what he does with that privacy, not take it away like a child on punishment. If I need an option to see what's going on, I'm just going to end the relationship.
I agree.. I think people are missing the point here — what it's really about now is demonstrating "Accountability" it isn't so much about taking away that person's privacy, playing inspector gadget; but if a couple is 100% sure on trying to make amends often times the cheater will now basically have to be willing to CHECK IN, be accountable for whatever it is that the partner may have asked of him or her, this is what couples are told often during counseling, they have to regain that person's trust.
So if a woman was the cheater should she be willing to to the same? How do you determine the trust trial period? What happens if the person who cheated gets exhausted with trying to prove themselves?
(I've never had to deal with it so this is intriguing to me.)
I put my self in a situation like that. I cheated, and we decided to work it out. He didn't ask me to unlock my phone or give him every password to every social media site I'm connected to. However, i took it upon myself to let him know what I'm up to and who i'm talking to, and all locks and passwords are gone. I agree with @girlsixx.. it's about demonstrating accountability. I knew what I did was wrong and I did everything I thought probably contributed to the lack of trust.. If someone honestly wants to fix their relationship, they won't punish the person, well at least not intentionally. It takes work on both ends. People who take cheaters back should also realize if you make that decision, you have to work on building trust just as the person who broke it has to work on regaining it. It's a team effort.
like your comment and also think it's not the 'need to check up', but rather the need for openness and transparency that removes the need for the betrayed to ask/question when they are feeling insecure. The privacy and passwords etc were there in the first place and that trust was abused. If secrets, passwords, and private phone calls continue nothing has changed and it will not help to rebuild trust or the relationship.
If there is openness and honesty the 'paranoia' will eventually fade; this is about the cheater earning the trust back. They have to recognise and understand the damage and hurt they have caused and be willing to repair it, that can only be through complete openness and honesty, and I don't mean accounting for every minute, every phone call, and checking all emails etc, there needs to be a balance. If they don't want to repair the damage and insist on maintaining the same degree of privacy that they abused in the first place, they should leave the relationship as there is no remorse, no guilt, and no intention of repairing the damage they caused.
Men and women cheat for the same reason, added perks to their own relationship. The perks however tend to differ between men and women, i know men who cheat because they just want different women, i know women who cheat because they like the attention from someone else. But roles reverse just as often.
I dont believe once a cheater always a cheater because we mature and evolve throughout our lives. Reformed cheaters are accountable first and foremost. They own up to their mistakes and don't blame the alcohol, the side piece or their partner. They are sorry for the act not that they were caught up.
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Had an interesting conversation about this yesterday. It was argued that men and women cheat for different reasons. More specifically, women cheat because of something missing in the relationship emotionally more so than the guy isn't putting it down in the sheets or they're just cheating because they can. The man may not be meeting a deeper need (pause), so she may start communicating with someone outside the relationship and that starts as emotional cheating…which then leads to the physical. It was also argued that the men in those relationships are more responsible for women cheating because they've clearly ignored a need that's been conveyed them — often repeatedly.
I don't necessarily agree with that, because at the end of the day, both parties are responsible for getting undressed, putting their left foot in and doing the hokey pokey. Someone doesn't drive someone to cheat because that person always has the option of breaking up instead of taking their carnal talents elsewhere.
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It was also argued that the men in those relationships are more responsible for women cheating because they've clearly ignored a need that's been conveyed them — often repeatedly.
Yeah, I hate that line of reasoning and I've heard it quite often. It presumes that women's cheating is always justified and generally someone else's fault other than their own. In other words, when a man cheats it's his fault and when a woman cheats it's his fault. I guess…
I agree with this line of thought. A man, in my book is responsible to his wife
1. To Protect
2. To Provide
3. To INSPIRE fidelity in her (esp. in 2012)
4. To provide her org@sms
5. To make sure keep keeps her weight in check.
Since so many people choose to cheat, instead of just leave be it a marriage or relationship, it seems that leaving really isn't an option for a lot of people. At least this is how many people feel.
Yeah, I think some men cheat when they are in their immaturity stage of life. Also, I think some men cheat because of the notion that several is better than one.. I will say that when a man, who is a cheater, matures, he can definitely become reformed. You want put yourself in situations where you can be tempted and you look at life in a totally different sphere.
People do why they want to do. Men cheat because they want to and for the most part they can cheat without any repercussions . Personally in a lot of relationships ( not marriages ) where the man is cheating , most of the time he’s with his ” gf for convenience ” so he feels like he doesnt have anything to lose by cheating because she’s going to stick around . A lot of women talk a big game but theyre usaully in a relationship with a man who their more into than he is into them, so while she might bit*h and moan she’s not going anywhere. If anything now she’s proving herself self conscientiously to him that she’s better than the other chick, instead of him proving to her that he deserves to still be in a relationship with her.
Men also tend to stick with their guns in a relationship . If he said cheating is a deal breaker , there’s more than an 85% chance that he’s dead serious and will not take you back if you cheat. Women ( if their not strong with in themselves) will catch a dude cheating , curse him out, kick him out, start missing him, get lonely, start thinking its all her fault he cheated and take back his sorry behind apology .
I think a man that cheated in the past can change if “THEY WANT TO” . It has to be a personally choice. I also think more men and women need to be honest about if sexual monogamy is something they can handle in a relationship . For some ppl it won’t work. I know couples who understand that and they act accordingly . Maybe the guy and girl are both into females so they bring a third party into the mix every once in a whole to feed the need. Again men and women need to ask each other these honest question before they dedicate themselves to each other.
Women: every man can’t be sexually monogamous . That doesn’t make them bad men, it’s the lying and deceit that makes them bad. Stick to your guns, don’t let any man , loneliness or whatever make you feel that requesting sexual monogamy in your relationship is unreasonable or a bad thing.
Men: if sexual monogamy is what you request of your lady, please be able to follow the rules you’ve set out for your partner. And expect the same consequences . If you know sexual monogony with a particular lady isn’t possible, don’t get serious with her, tell her your not ready to go to that level and save yourself the trouble
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"Cheating is a CHARACTER FLAW"….just like lying, stealing, etc. That is it, and that is all.
I agree. Get it under control. Everybody has the choice to do right and wrong.
this is bad logic that is incongruent with human biology. If "cheating" is a flaw, then there has to be evidence of a time in human history where men were completely faithful to one woman. As a marriage and family therapist i can tell you there is no such period of time where you will find such a caviat. The issue I have with these types of conversations is that idealogy is treated as a standard when in fact its simply an ideal. All HUMAN/Homosapiens are inherently selfish, Its the way we are designed, The idea of sharing,caring and putting other needs before your own…thats a learned behavior,,which in turn is the actual character flaw,,,,,,but its easier to hold people to the ideal standard of human interaction, then to understand what we truely are
Actually it is you that is guilty of bad logic. Allow me to demonstrate in a simple example, applying your own logic to another behaviour viewed negatively by a majority of modern society: the killing of humans, by other humans.
If 'murdering' is a flaw, then there has to be evidence of a time in human history where humans were completely non-violent in all their human-human interactions. Since you will also find no period in time in which no killings occured either within, or between human groups, it is therefore not a flaw to be a murderer.
"Someone told me recently that men are as faithful as their options. This is only somewhat accurate."
i don't think this is accurate at all. i know plenty of men (myself included) who have plenty of options. i've never cheated on the majority of my girlfriends. that anecdote basically says men have no control over their primal urges and have no self-control. smh
with that said i'd be lying if i said i've never cheated on a girlfriend. sh*t happens and i'm not going to get into the reasons why or how i cheated but i definitely don't believe in once a cheater, always a cheater. no one is always one thing.
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That phrase was popularized by Chris Rock. It was funny in context, but not applicable in general. Any guy who is above a 5.5 on the attractiveness scale, is middle class and a decent guy has options. The point of fidelity is self-control, not opportunity.
I agree with both of you in disagreement with that phrase. It's good to see men refute this and i think men should be offended that society thinks that men are just wired to LACK reasoning and self control when it comes to women.
Self-control is not even apart of the equation. Marriage is an instution that has been around for centuries. And every culture, generation from B.C. to A.D. has viewed marriage the same except the last two generations in America (key word: america) if you ever travel outside the U.S. the thoughts and ideas about marriage is so different, the idea that self control being raised as a issue begs the question why is there a control on how many women a man can have or how many men a woman can have. Wake up people…you can easily trace this social agenda to the macarthy era in this country 1953. but majority will continue to discuss this topic as if there is a final solution. And there is…to thy own self be true. If you want to be with multiple partners there are people who share your sentiment…have at it, If you want a mate for life like a penguin,,there are people who share your sentiment. Where a name tag and find a match…
Caesar20417: "Self-control is not even apart of the equation."
The topic of discussion here is "Why do men cheat?" Of course self-control is part of the equation, because it keeps you from cheating.
Whether or not monogamy should be socially accepted is a totally different equation. You're solving a different problem.
3) the only thing more amazing than how long some women will stay with an unfaithful man is how long a side-woman is willing to remain in the side-woman role.
Amen to that!
People cheat and the "reasons" are complex. In reality, there really is no "reason" to deceive. People just give in to desire instead of leaving or trying other options.
I cannot understand why a person that is not ready to be monogamous even attempt a relationship. I learned recently that although you can change your mind about something, if the heart doesn't change, the change will not be permanent. Changing your heart is harder and that is why most change only when something happens to facilitate the change.
I do not believe once a cheater always a cheater because I believe people can change given the right circumstances. As far as a women being able to tell if the man is a cheater vs. a reform cheater….she needs to just see the truth and take it from there. Telling yourself lies just to get by will catch up with you. Some women are able to deal with men they KNOW cheat. These women at least are honest with themselves. Maybe that truth set them free to deal with the relationship on their own terms.
After years of “research” I will say this….if more women would stop using s*x (or lack of) as a punishment less men would cheat.
Additionally if more people in general would end relationships they are unhappy in less people in general would cheat. But as WIM said when you have a great job its really hard to just quit and go out into the job market over a few “minor” details but truly its your best option to find happiness.
Also I have found that if a man is cheating chances are the woman I’m the relationship is also unhappy….beyond the fact that her man is cheating on her….
1) I can't speak for men so I don't know. I will say that every man who has cheated on me has done so with a woman who was my complete physical opposite, who burns water and has nothing in common with them on an emotional level. Take from that what you will about the "needs" they were fulfilling. As for me, I'm one of those random anomaly's that would actually break up with you before I cheat. I just don't have the patience.
2) Ego.Men like that believe they deserve it all. Just ask Mr. Woods. Also, in some careers being single is frowned upon. Ask any politician.
3) No. People cheat for as many reasons as they get into relationships. The only habitual cheaters are those that have narcissistic traits, so you can easily tell them by their lack of general empathy for every situation but their own. In their case, they'll have a million excuses why everything they've ever done wrong was someone else's fault.
"2) Ego.Men like that believe they deserve it all. Just ask Mr. Woods. Also, in some careers being single is frowned upon. Ask any politician. "
This is an interesting and undertalked about perspective. Many times being in a relationship or married is more or less a symbol of status to a certain degree when dealing with various groups. A generation or two ago it was harder for a man to obtain a bank loan if he was single than married b/c clearly a married man had more morals and therefore a higher ability to pay back the loan.
To the political point have you known any President in recent history to not have a wife? Hell, or kids for that matter. How important is it in politics to have a significant other? Two words: Bill Clinton.
Hm. My husband cheated on me with strippers. I am not a stripper. I don’t look like a stripper. My husband is/was also the nerdy guy who didn’t get women in high school, who came into his own later. I suppose what he got from cheating was the feeling of being wanted by lots of “sexy” women? I don’t know. I didn’t get into all that, he can discuss with his counselor or his God.
I agree that the key here is choices not options. We all have options. But just because you HAVE options don’t mean you have to take advantage of all the options available to you at any given time. Be a person of your word. It’s not easy to end a relationship or fix a relationship, but that’s got to be easier than hurting someone you supposedly love and care about, right?
I probably shouldn't go down this route, but when you say he cheated with strippers…
Do you mean he met strippers in the strip club and then carried on relations (sex) with them outside of the club? Or like, if he went to a party where there were strippers he carried on relations (sex) outside of the gentleman's night?
I only ask because some women consider a lap dance to be cheating, and i'm always trying to figure out the sense of logic there.
I always question that. Seriously, I ask men, because I can never get a consistent answer.
Now, say you don't consider receiving a lap dance cheating. If I was your wife, and I gave another man a lapdance (which would, admittedly be less extreme, as I would not be removing clothing), or even got a lil' extra on the dance floor with a stranger, would you consider that out of pocket?
My first response: what you do on your own time is your own business.
My second response: Your example isn't remotely related. Assuming you know I went to a gentlemen's clubs, you also know I'm going to engage in some non-gentlemen-like activities. If you don't want me to get a lap dance, just ban me from the club. Don't permit me to go then get mad at what I do there – within reason. You going to a regular club and giving a man a lap dance =/= the same as me going to a gentlemen's club where lap dances are part of the implied reason I'm even there (granted not all clubs do lap dances). That said, you do you BUT don't let me catch you on Instagram/Cinemagram because then, YOU GOIN TA JAIL NOW!
See, I'm of the "don't do anything you'd send me ta jail fo'"school of thought (it should be noted that I really don't care about lap dances) BUT..going to a strip club involves watching, which I have no issue with. Getting a LAP DANCE involves touching & deliberate intent, and what's good for the goose. It could be argued that acting a fool is the reason people go to a club (not lounge) as well, hence the = in my book. Again, I don't care, but I can see women's logic in the matter.
I guess I just dont understand the logic. That's like me saying "it's ok for you to go the buffet BUT I BET NOT CATCH YOU EATING THE FOOD" ….that makes no sense. If you're not ok with the 'Buffet Club' then just say THAT. Don't pretend like you're ok with the buffet but you don't like what goes on in the buffet line. That's a #WomanSwindle if I've ever heard of one. I've date quite a few women who don't like me going to the gentlemen's club but at least they're honest and upfront about it. I prefer that, as in the truth, than "yeah I'm ok with you going" when you are really 1) not ok; or 2) you have so many rules and regulations about me going there is no point in me going "you can go to the strip club but you have to have your eyes closed at all times and no women are allowed to touch you" ….chill
Strip clubs and buffets just don't mix, man. They just don't mix.lol
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But to the general issue at hand, I'll assume my Queen is a grown woman and she can conduct herself as such. I'm not the FDA, FBI, CIA, or Sally Mae. I don't have time to follow you around and regulate your activities like a federal investigator. If you're my woman, I trust you to act right at all times, not just the times when I'm around or you think you might get caught. If you don't know how to act right, you better know how not to get caught. But the real issues in my eyes is if I've chosen a woman that doesn't know how to act right – when I'm present or not present – that's equally reflective of me as it is of her.
But how is paying a nekkid woman to rub up on you acting right? …asking for a friend.
I feel
youyour friend are playing both sides of the fence. First you say it's ok for him to go to a place where nekkid women rub on men for payment but now you're saying it's not ok for said man to pay said nekkid woman to rub. If you have a problem with what goes on in the club then I really don't understand whyyouyour friend is even pretending it's ok for the man to go – when clearlyyoushe feels like it is not. All WIM is asking for is some honesty. I'd be far more annoyed by the woman who tells me something is ok when it's not than the woman that simply says how she really feels up front – and there would be no confusion by either one of us…or the nekkid woman.For the record, I've dated both types of women. You don't have to pretend like you're ok with an activity you're no ok with to keep WIM happy. If we're adults, lets act like adults – and that entails having adult-like conversations.
You have somebody at home who will rub all on you for free. Besides, women probably think it's just good enough to go. Just because you're there doesn't mean you HAVE to get the lap dance. AND, to make it a bit more graphic, how would you feel if your lady went out and let some dude rub his richard all over her even if it were his job and he did it for the money? I mean, I'm cool with you going and all but do you have to take it to that next level? Psshh. Just don't tell me about it.
I feel as if strip clubs are immoral all the way around. From the kind of men that regularly enjoy this type of setting, to the reasons why these girls are okay with being dehumanized. The hurt of actually having an affair has to do with the mind. All things wrong are born in the mind initially. When I was cheated on in the past, the hurtful part was not that he was pleasured, but that he was pleasured by someone other than me. This indicates that my man sexually left me. The best part about sex for me is the emotional closeness I feel when making love. If he is thinking of someone else, then I am just fooling myself. I maybe living in fantasy land, but these men who think that they can cheat and my love will be waiting is living in fantasy land too.
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YOU GOIN TA JAIL NOW!
It is uppercuttin' season negroes.
Right now, there is some husband saying that to his wife of 27 yrs now that the kids have left for school.
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It's the same bro.
Receiving a lap dance isn't cheating in my book. I try to look at it by comparing apples to apples. If my woman is attending a male review and one of the uhh…entertainers is giving her some personal time doing whatever dance they do…lap dance or whatever, then I have absolutely no problem with that. I understand the context of the situation and the intent. She's probably there with her homegirls for entertainment purposes, not to find another man, and the intent is not malicious.
Your example, in my opinion, is an apples to oranges, in my opinion…..unless you were a stripper in the first place then that's a different conversation b/c clearly I knew what I was getting into, lol. The context of you giving another man a lap dance and the intent is all over the place with ambiguity. Just one man's thoughts.
Open Main Room Lap Dance =/= cheating.. IMO.
If your man is going to a strip club there’s a 50% chance he may just get a open room/public lap dance, I don’t see the big deal with this if women claim they are cool with their men attending strip clubs in the first place. #confused Now with that being said The Champagne Room *record scratch* I know what goes down in there, this is something I would have a trust issue with but then again you NEVER KNOW. *shrug*
I can def agree with this @GirlSixx. *leaping high five*
I also agree that the line should be drawn at the Champagne / Private Room (granted I'm making these names up from what I heard from my friends *cough*) because, as you said, that's a different set of rules. I agree with all you said, 115%
He met strippers in the strip club and had sex with them outside of the club.
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Can't wait to read the comments, but it seems like WIM is the resident expert on infidelity
1. a man cheating =/= to a woman cheating. Men can cheat & still love the main girl. It is only problematic is HE LOVES his side girl more than the main girl and/or if he not DISCREET.
2. A woman cheats, its the beginning of the end. And the child could not be yours.
The woman in question SHOULD be thankful that her baby's father is willing to be with her when he clearly has options. The fact that she bore his child is a privilege.
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Cheating is rough topic. If folks are honest with themselves, men cheat for a variety of reasons, just as women do. The outliers can't be disregarded just because they aren't the main reasons. I've been the cheater and cheatee and my reasons were just as inexcusable as my girl's at the time. If men feel like theyare missing something, they'll cheat. I know a few women who cheated just because they could. It ain't right for either sex to do it, but that isn't to say that they'll stop. If more people were committed to their relationships, and willing to put in the work needed to maintain it, maybe it'd be less cheating going on.
Haters gon' hate and Cheaters gon' Cheat, i agree with that One hundred percent. But Men cheat because they are either Bored, they are SERIAL Cheaters (They need Help) lol or they are just not into their Partner/Girl at the time. Cheating is a deal breaker with me…..i mean once you cheat and get away with it then you feel as if you can do it again, then again, then again but if you are serious about making things right, morally you'll find the will power to stop……but other than that just be HONEST from the get go!!!!
Whew! I really thought this article was going to set me off because I detest cheaters and hate the excuses people use to justify it (particularly men). If someone cheats it's because they want to and/or allowed themselves to lose control. Keep it in check and there'll be none.
Immediately, had to call ask if he goes to the champagne room or private rooms #menaive…Geesh!!
Wo(men) or Men cheat on you because the consequences are accepted BY BOTH. Loosing you is no big deal TO THE CHEATER. If I am cheating I don't see you as a number 1, i see you as a THE IN THE MEAN TIME GUY. I got DECENT sex , someone to hang and go out with… but when i see someone that i prefer than you im GONNA TEST THAT out AND IF ITS BETTER THAN YOU IM OUT IF NOT ILL STAY!!!… Why do you want to be that person that is cheated on… u forgive me. really? so why you checking my phone, my email, listening if im talking to my girlfriend or a dude.. why you STILL accusing me of cheating? I thought you forgave me?…… this is the main reason when someone cheat on your butt you need to LEAVEEEEEEEE… FORGIVE EM BUT LEAVEEEEEE!!!!!! ((((((fyi.. ive never cheated on anyone..just trying to make a point….if i want to sleep with someone else, i sure done want to sleep with you… just me.. i hope we got individual thinkers left in society)))))
I agree 100%!!
You are right, but also, if you are cheating, then you are saying this relationship isn't what you say it is. Therefore, feel free to cheat, because I, too, will have no guilt cheating. I, too, will test the other dawgs out there, and if it's better than you, I'm out, too, if not, I'm gonna stay. I'm not as dumb as you think. You think I'm accepting you, hahaha, think again. While you sassing her, I'm hooking up with him. You leave me lots of space and time to cheat, too. And when you dare to tell me you love me, I will smile back and say, "I love you, too" because I can play your game, better. You don't know that I am cheating, like I know that you are cheating. Thank you for giving me all this time and space to cheat, too. I can't find anyone better, either, so I'm gonna use you, too! Works both ways, savvy??
Do you believe that once a cheater always a cheater? If not, what makes a cheater change and how can women tell the difference between a cheater who has reformed versus a cheater who is in remission?
Was just talking to a friend about cheating in relationships. I realized I could care less. Cheat on me if you want, just make sure not to call me after. I don't necessarily believe 'once a cheater, always a cheater' but I don't date guys that have cheated in the past. I'm sure a guy can reform but I've never cheated. I honestly don't feel like dealing with the psychological battle my brain would do in relation to a 'previous cheater.' That probably makes me sound like some type of person with lots of assumptions and judgment but its made my life less stressful so I don't particularly care. I do what I do for my own sanity not because I think the person is 'bad.'
I do find it funny that some guys outright say they don't see themselves being faithful to one women but are yet entirely adverse to an open relationship/open marriage. Seems like everyone wins to me. No one is cheating. Everyones 'other needs' are being met. Seems like a pretty sweet deal. Eh. Who am I.
Lol Amen its been said.
Im going to answer this as a woman cheater. I didnt really start getting attention from guys until I was 16 or 17. I took it an ran with it. Its a self esteem thing on my end. The grass is greener, or in my instance, cuter, or funnier, or funner, has a bigger you-know-what, and my goodness interested in me!I used to lack the matmaturity to understand that was I was missing was self satisfaction. So now I dont date. I know I am seeking great pastures, but I also feel like the right person will come along that will make me feel as if I dont want or need anything else. Im having fun but im not looking for a relationship. I will no when I am ready with the right person, and am sparing anybody else the pain of my impulsivity and bad decisions.
Men cheat for various reasons… But for some it isn't just for sexual gratification but to replace something they aren't getting at home. So yes, they might be lacking physical intimacy, emotional intimacy… and believe it or not many men do desire those and not just a lay. We express our love physically via sex and feel loved and appreciated in turn.
Marriages can have issues with lack of intimacy on the part of the wife… coupled with other marital issues like money, work ethic, poor housekeeping, etc making a man feel unhappy and very unappreciated… then those men won't just cheat for the sex… they will fill that void with a full blown love affair.
I know… I'm one of those men. I do blame myself for I decided to do. I also blame my wife…Years of discussions, threats of it, marriage counseling did nothing to her attitude towards intimacy. So yes, I do blame her in part.
Greg, glad I read your post. It just helped me.
im unhappy im gonna sleep around.. Boohoo.. Stop blaming ur wives rather end the relationship.. Men like u give others a bad name.
my boyfriend is a cheater…. point blank. however i have never step out side the relationship to cheat , i felt that he was all i needed. 10yrs. almost 11yrs. i can't take his cheatin ways anymore. know he says " I told you that i wasn't ready for marriage' ,excuse me i didn't say marriage. i hate that he is a cheater, he's a good man , but also damage goods. Karma hurts. YET I'm still in love with him
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I got cheated on, took my ex back then after 4 years he left me for a new girl he cheated on and blamed me, and lied about even being with her, till I caught him in a lie. But he’s playing the victim this time around. He has avoidance issues and can’t communicate, which is why I get mad when people say if you’re gonna cheat just leave the person. I DISAGREE…if you’re gonna cheat talk to your partner about what’s missing in the relationship or want your feeling, not just dump them after all the history you have for a simple selfish act you may or may not regret.
Communicate, not leave, not cheat. Seems like people nowadays want an easy way out. It’s so easy to cheat and leave your partner when you don’t want to face them. My ex leaving me hurt more than him cheating because I was left with so many unanswered questions and wanted to know what he was lacking in our relationship. I’m not bitter just sad that he took a cowards way out and couldn’t come to me so we could figure out why he may not be happy etc.
And the girl he left me for knew we were a couple living together, I told her. And once I confronted him and told him I reached out to her, that’s when he started blaming me. Funny thing is he was planning out future then a week later started cheating, I could tell, guess he wanted a last fling, grass is greener before committing but I caught him. His actions and knowing about his childhood shows me he’s a cheater because he’s not happy with himself and needs attention and a constant ego boost. He will need therapy and willingness to change before he stops cheating, and a woman who gets with a man that was just in a relationship is getting all the baggage because he never worked it out with thee last partner, same for female cheaters….it all boils down to lack of communication and fear of being honest with your partner. Instead of cheating or leaving, just be single and date. Don’t invest years into a relationship then say I’ll leave because I want to cheat now. Just date different people and work on your issues instead dragging someone else into your selfish tendency.
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My name is Julian and i want to testify of the good work done by a faithful prophet, a spell caster. in my life i never thought there is such thing as spiritual intercession. my problem started nine months back when the father of my kids started putting up some strange behavior, i never knew he was having an affair outside our matrimonial home. it dawn on me on that faithful day 19th of October 2012 4:23pm when he came to the house to pick his things that was when i knew that situation has gotten out of hand and he then told me he was quitting the marriage which i have built for over five years, i was confused and dumbfounded i called on family and friends but to no avail. two months after i started having problem with my kids welfare rent-age and all of it, i really went through hell. until a day i was browsing on the internet and i happen to meet a spell caster i never believed on this but i needed my man back so i gave the spell caster my problem at first i never trusted him so i was just doing it but you know a problem shared is half solved after a week my husband called me telling me that he his coming back home and that was all. now we are living happily and i still do contact him on this email: prophetesene@yahoo.com
Please, please try, prophetesene@yahoo.com is amazing, I am so happy and pleased he has brought me and my woman together and i will be eternally grateful for that.
A amazing testimony of a spell caster that help me
get my husband back to me. My name is Rhoda
william i lived in U S A and i have 4 kids, before i
was having problems with my husband which make
him hate us so much that even lead to breake up
and leave us to another woman, untill a friend of
mine directed me to this man called Dr. omagala, i
contacted him and he start to cast the spell
immidiatly, then he help me get my husband back
in pease and we are now happy family am very
much thankfull to Dr. omagala that help me,so i must
tell the people how good he his. I will advice you to
contact him through this email
omagalatemple@yahoo.com. Then your
problem will be solve.
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If you want to use a witchcraft to get with your love again or get rid of a mistress of your husband or a lover of your wife with my spells.. Contact me Inga_sayhi@mail.ru I learned witchcraft from my grandmother since a little kid. I am good in what I am doing!
My mouth is full of testimonies, Am miss PRECIOUS E my husband left the home for two years to south Africa for a tourist, where he meant this prostitute and he was bewitch by the girl my husband refuse to come back home again, i cry day and night looking for who to help me, i read a news paper about a powerful spell caster called Dr okadaka and i contacted the spell caster to help me get my lover back to me and he ask me not to worry about it that the gods we fight for me.. he told me by mid-night when all the spirit is at rest he will cast a spell to reunite my lover back to me. and he did in less than 3 days my husband came back to me and started crying that i should for forgive him, i,m so happy for what this spell caster did for me and my husband.. Dr okadaka of almightyworldsolutiontemple@gmail.com
Thank you Dr.okadaka for the perfect work you did for me by bringing back my lover within 48hours, they say humans are inperfect but your job is a perfect one.. Reach Dr.okadaka on almightyworldsolutiontemple@gmail.com or call him on +2348138209842. To get a taste on how he does his job.,
NAME: IVAN
CITY: WARSAW
COUNTRY: POLAND
My name is Sandra and i want to testify of the good work done by a faithful Dr Osoba, a spell caster. in my life i never thought there is such thing as spiritual intercession. my problem started nine months back when the father of my kids started putting up some strange behavior, i never knew he was having an affair outside our matrimonial home. it dawn on me on that faithful day 19th of April 21st 4:23pm when he came to the house to pick his things that was when i knew that situation has gotten out of hand and he then told me he was quitting the marriage which i have built for over five years, i was confused and dumbfounded i called on family and friends but to no avail. two months after i started having problem with my kids welfare rent-age and all of it, i really went through hell. until a day i was browsing on the internet and i happen to meet a spell caster i never believed on this but i needed my man back so i gave the spell caster my problem at first i never trusted him so i was just doing it but you know a problem shared is half solved after a week my husband called me telling me that he his coming back home and that was all. now we are living happily and i still do contact him on this email: osobaspelltemple@yahoo.com
Hi my name is Narisha and I am cheating with a married man for 5 years now. He still ahs not left his wife and children, he moved out but he says they are the ones that keep calling him for help. I cheated with hm on his wife what are the possiblities that he may cheat on me ? I know I have cheated on him time and time again.
am back and better
I promised to tell the world about him that's why am posting this here…all thanks to DR JADULA…there are so many fake spell casters out there I was more than scammed heartbroken and almost gave up all hope until I met with him…now am so happy…
If you have issues mail jadulaspelltemple@gmail.com…he sure would help you he casts all kind of spells
What a beautiful and wonderful testimony some time things you don't believe can just happen.
My name is Cherry Johnson from U.S.A am 25 years old i got married at the age of 23 i have only one child and i was living happily .After one year of my marriage my husband behavior became so strange and i don't really understand what was going on, he packed out of the house to another woman i love him so much that i never dream's of losing him, i try my possible best to make sure that my husband get back to me but all to no avail i cry and i cry seeking for help i discussed it with my best friend and she promise to help me he told me of a man called Dr Fred he is a very great man and a real man that can be trusted and there is nothing concerning love issues he cannot do that is why they call him Dr Fred. I contacted his email address at (tradionalspelltemple@yahoo.com) And i told him everything that happen all he told me is that i should not worry that all my problems will be solved immediately. He told me what to do to get my husband back and i did, he said after 3days my husband will come back to me and start begging, it really happen i was very surprise and very, very happy our relationship was now very tight and we both live happily again. So my advice for you now is to contact this same email address (tradionalspelltemple@yahoo.com) if you are in any kind of situation concerning love issues and any other things that give you problems.
THANKS..
Hello to the general public. My name is Sofia from California. I was in
doubt for so many spell caster on the internet until i met Priest ehor
that help me bring back my ex-lover back and we are happily married now, he
cast a spell for me and my lover for a good job also. Now we are working in
one of the biggest company in California. Thanks to Priestehor for you
are really a true spell caster. You can contact him for your solution today
via email:priestehor@yahoomail.com or call him on +2347035825346.
I am miss Alicia. I live in a scattered life with my ex. Because he always get me beaten everyday. Now i have 2 kids for him. But now he left us to new york in search of a lady. I never new he was on a love spell attack. It really touches me. I cried everyday for him. But one day my best friend i have came to visit me and i laid everything that happen between i and him to her. She took me to a man. He is a witch doctor. He consulted his powerful oracle and told me not to worry that after 3 days he will come begging me. It really works. After the 1 day i met him on our door step crying and begging me that he made a mistake. That i should forgive him. I really did. And we were back to our relationship again. Now i will use this medium to tell every one who find his or herself in this mess that he should contact him at (lawrees24hrspellhome@gmail.com) he will be glad to hear from you
Greetings to the general public. I am by name Dr.LAWREES.( the spell caster) I am a witch doctor who helps people retrieve back their husband or wife, boyfriend,girlfriend. I am well known as one of the best witch doctor across the whole full world. Is a gift from my father to help those that are in serious spiritual problem. With these great power my father impose on me i can cast out the evil spell on every individual. I am a from the accent Paris of Africa. I have a son called lele. He is also a witch doctor. But we are working in the same spell home. So if you want to cast out or you want your lover back please i will love you to dissolve your problem out by yourself by contacting us at: lawrees24hrspellhome@gmail.com
as soon as i receive your mail i will sent down my photo and how i help people out to you. Best regards
hope to hear from you soon
MY GREATEST HELP FROM DR LAREES
I don't know how to say this but this is a secret i like share on the internet on how i got my ex back from a great spell caster. my name is Bella my ex broke up with me 5 months ago, i felt incomplete i decide to contact a spell caster called Dr Lawrees to help me bring her back. and he brought her back to me within 48 hours and she is living with me but now i always think that she has no real love for me but i am still happy that she is right with me because i can't think of ever loosing her again. in case u still needs Dr lawrees help you can reach him on: lawrees24hrspellhome@gmail.com
By the way of introduction I am John Oscar, I am from United States of America (USA), I want to testify the goodness of Dr. Ubakassi In my life and my family, I was having a lot of problem in my life some months back, I lost my job, my wife left me and my life was like living hell until I saw a testimony about a spell called Dr. Ubakassi Online last month, I contacted Dr. Ubakassi and he told me the root of all my problems and thereafter Dr. Ubakassi Told me what to do and thereafter he help me perfume a ritual and thereafter he told me that my story will turn around with 3 days and to my greatest surprise on the second day which was on Monday i was called for job and when i got to the office i was offered a job as a assistant sales manager in one of the biggest company in United States of America that same day my wife called and apologies for all the wrongs she has done and the next morning she come back home and since that day till now my story has indeed turnaround of good and all thanks goes to Dr. Ubakassi who has make the difference in my entire life.
Furthermore my advice to people in a similar situation or people in need of any solution to all fundamental problems of life is that there are still real spiritualist in the word who can perfume wonders and if you are in need of any spiritual help i will recommend Dr. Ubakassi because he has done it for me and i believe he will also do it for you if you consult he for solution, If you wish to contact Dr. Ubakassi kindly email he via his private email address: ubakassitempleofsolution@live.com or call he via his mobile number: +2348140276620
Thanks for reading my testimony and i pray that God should also use Dr. Ubakassi will be of help to you if you are having any problem or need a spiritual solution to any problems.
Yours Faithful!
Mr. John Oscar.
From USA.
I am Miss Tricia.,From U S . I will start by saying to all that have experience heart break and also cant do with out there lover should please stop here and read up my story, So as you will know how to go solving or getting your ex back from this spell caster..AND AGAIN I WILL WANT TO ALSO TELL ALL THAT THIS SPELL CASTER I WILL WANT TO TELL THE WHOLE WORLD ABOUT IS HARMLESS AND DO NOT HAVE ANY SIDE EFFECT, BUT TO RESTORE AND GIVE YOU BACK WHAT YOU DESERVE, COS WHEN I MEET WITH THIS SPELL CASTER THAT WAS INTRODUCED TO ME BY THE WIFE OF MY BOSS IN MY WORKING PLACE, HE MADE IT CLEAR THAT HE CAN CAST SPELL ON SO MANY OTHER PROBLEMS EXCEPT IN GETTING YOUR EX OR MAKING YOUR LOVER TO LOVE YOU MORE THAT WILL SUITE YOU. Last year December, My lover was cheating on me and was not also give me the attention that a man should give to a woman,And really that was troubling my mind and tearing my heart apart to the extent that i was not concentrating in the office the way i use to before the break up by my lover.And before that incident,I always see how my boss use to love his wife so much. I was bringing to think that i was not doing the right thing to him that will make him love me forever,So i really gathered my courage and went to my boss wife office to ask her the secret that made her husband love her so dearly,In the first place she refused in telling me,She asked me why i am asking her such a question,That if is it not normal for every man to love his wife.I told her the reason that made me ask her about this question,That my lover started cheating on me lately,When i knelt down before her for her to see my seriousness in this issue that i went to ask her,She opened up to me by telling me that i should not tell anybody about what she want to tell me,The wife to my boss started to say to me that she used a very powerful spell on his husband to love her,And the spell that she used is harmless, But the spell is just to make him love her and never to look for any other woman except her. I QUICKLY ASK HER HOW DID SHE GET TO KNOW THIS GREAT,POWER,DURABLE AND PERFECT WORK SPELL CASTER,she said that a friend of hers also introduce her to him. Then i also ask her how i can meet with this spell caster.SHE SAID EVERYTHING TO ME,THAT THE NAME OF THIS SPELL CASTER IS Dr.super .My next question to her was how can i get this wonderful spell caster,She said she is going to give me the email of the spell caster for me to contact him for my problem,Really she gave to me this spell caster email{dr.okosodo@yahoo.com} and i contacted him and explained all to him,And after every thing that needed to be done by the spell caster, In the next two days, My lover that hated me so much came to house begging for forgiveness and i was so glad that i have finally gotten my heart desire..I was so grateful to this spell caster for what he has done for my life.. So i made a promise to him that i will always continue telling the world about his wonderful work towards me and also to other that came to you before and also the people that will also get to you from my story that i narrated online now..I will want to say to the entire world that you should not cry over noting again, That there is a great man that has been helping individuals to restore there Joy and smile in there faces !! The direct email to get this man is:({dr.okosodo@yahoo.com})This is what i want to tell you all out there,That is thinking that all hope is lost OK..Thanks
My name is swanta lorey, I have been through hell and pains,looking for a good spell caster who can help me get my husband back.I have been scammed so many times,by some who claimed to be real spell casters.until i found the great man called DR.LAWRENCE who helped me,and solved all my problems concerning my husband who left me since ten months ago.and after that i also took my friend along,who was also having the same problem concerning her husband,who left her since six months ago,and the problem was also solved by DR.LAWRENCE Cant you see! the work of a great spell caster is here,all you need to do now is to contact him when ever you are in any problem relating to spell casting.It took me a very long period of time,before i could get this great man. So right now is here for you to solve your problems all thanks goes to DR.LAWRENCE. you can rich him via email;drlawrencespelltemple@gmail.com
My name is Jennifer martins, from USA I never believed in love spells or magic until i met this spell caster once when i went to Africa in February this year on a business summit. I meant a man who’s name is DR.madurai he is really powerful and could help cast spells to bring back one’s gone, lost, misbehaving lover and magic money spell or spell for a good job or luck spell .I’m now happy & a living testimony cos the man i had wanted to marry left me 3 weeks before our wedding and my life was upside down cos our relationship has been on for 6years. I really loved him, but his mother was against us and he had no good paying job. So when i met this spell caster, i told him what happened and explained the situation of things to him. At first i was undecided, skeptical and doubtful, but i just gave it a try. And in 7 days when i returned to usa, my boyfriend (now husband) called me by himself and came to me apologizing that everything had been settled with his mom and family and he got a new job interview so we should get married. I didn’t believe it cos the spell caster only asked for my name and my boyfriends name and all i wanted him to do. Well we are happily married now and we are expecting our little kid, and my husband also got the new job and our lives became much better. His email is maduraitemple@yahoo.com
i am giving this testimony cos l am happy
My name is mrs. Santana Valdez from Houston,taxes.i never believed in love spells or magic until i met this spell caster once. when i went to Africa in May 2nd this year on a business summit. i ment a man called dr. Atakpo.He is powerful he could help you cast a spells to bring back my love’s gone,misbehaving lover looking for some one to love you, bring back lost money and magic money spell or spell for a good job.i’m now happy & a living testimony cos the man i had wanted to marry left me 3 weeks before our wedding and my life was upside down cos our relationship has been on for 2 years… i really loved him, but his mother was against me and he had no good paying job. so when i met this spell caster, i told him what happened and explained the situation of things to him..at first i was undecided,skeptical and doubtful, but i just gave it a try. and in 6 days when i returned to taxes, my boyfriend (is now my husband ) he called me by himself and came to me apologizing that everything had been settled with his mom and family and he got a new job interview so we should get married..i didn’t believe it cos the spell caster only asked for my name and my boyfriends name and all i wanted him to do… well we are happily married now and we are expecting our little kid,and my husband also got a new job and our lives became much better. in case anyone needs the spell caster for some help, email address atakpotemble@yahoo.com
Great Atakpo i thank you very much thank you in 1000000 times.. if not you i would have been losted and wasted thank you. Email Him Through his email address… atakpotemble@yahoo.com
please make sure you contact him for any financial difficulties okay..
What a powerful man such as Dr Atakpo.. he is so much powerful..\ email him for any difficulties.. atakpotemble@yahoo.com
of course the image is of an attractive white female, and a kinky haired ugschmo black dude…
My Name is Lee Kima, From United Kingdom. I wish to share my testimonies with the general public about what this man called Dr.USMAN KERIM has just done for me , this man has just brought back my lost Ex husband to me with his great spell, I was married to this man called Steven we were together for a long time and we loved our self’s but when I was unable to give him a child for 2 years he left me and told me he can’t continue anymore then I was now looking for ways to get him back until a friend of mine told me about this man and gave his contact email(dr_usman.spiritualist@outlook.com then you won't believe this when I contacted this man on my problems he prepared this spell cast and bring my lost husband back, and after a month I miss my month and go for a test and the result stated am pregnant am happy today am a mother of a baby girl, thank you once again the great Dr.USMAN KERIM for what you have done for me, if you are out there passing through any of this problems listed below:
1) If you want your ex back.
(2) if you always have bad dreams.
(3) You want to be promoted in your office.
(4) You want women/men to run after you.
(5) If you want a child.
(6) You want to be rich.
(7) You want to tie your husband/wife to be
yours forever.
(8) If you need financial assistance.
(9) Herbal care
Email…dr_usman.spiritualist@outlook.com
Dear viewers what should i have done if not for an online DOCTOR called DR DIBIA EZE,well my name is ANNA JERKS am from USA i married to a man call Richard we were happily married for about five year we gave birth to our child in the second year after our marriage but we loose her out of illness she died at her early age of eight months old since then i could not give birth to another i have tried all my possible best but i could not,my husband was putting pressure on me and he said he will bring in another woman into our home that he is not getting younger he needs a child but i love my husband so much that i cannot afford to loose him to another neither to share him with another,i visited my friend called Monica i also told her about what am passing through in my marriage,she fell pity and introduce me to online spell caster that also helped her in her own times of tribulation called DR DIBIA EZE,he cast a spell for me that real works out, and cast a spell for me got pregnant 3weeks after, i was so happy then i said to my self that i will not keeping talking about his good work, i will keep talking about DR DIBIA EZE till my lasr breath, He is a very power man…YOU CAN REACH VIA….EMAIL…..dr.dibiablacktemple@live.com
Thanks to npitimehspirituralhome@gmail.com for At last my happiness has been restored by a Man named Dr.npitmeh ,, my name is KIRSTEN i want every one on this site or forum to join me thank this Dr.npitmeh for what he just did for me and my kids . my story goes like this i was married to my husband for 7 years we were living happily together for this years and not until he traveled to canada for a business trip where he met this woman who he said he felt in love whit and by so doing he hate me and the kids and love her only so when my husband came back from the trip he said he does not want to see me and my kids again so he drove us out of the house and he was now going to Canada to see that other woman. so i and my kids were now so frustrated and i was just staying with my mum and i was not be treating good because my mum got married to another man after my daddy death so the man she got married to was not treating i and my kids well so i was so confuse and i was searching for a way to get my husband back to me and my kids so one day as i was browsing on my computer i saw a testimony about this MAN Dr.npitmeh of npitimehspirituralhome@gmail.com shared on the internet by a lady and it impress me too so i also think of give it a try at first a was scared by when i think of what me and my kids are passing through so i contact him and he told me to stay calm for just two days that my husband shall be restored to me and to my best surprise i received a call from my husband on the second day asking after the kids and i called Dr.npitmeh and he said your problems are solved my child so this was how i get my family back after a long stress of brake up by an evil lady so with all this help from Dr.npitmeh of npitimehspirituralhome@gmail.com i want you all on this forum to join me to say a huge thanks to Dr.npitmeh and i will also advice for any one in such or similar problems or any kind of problems should also contact him for help
Relationships and infidelity from a woman's perspective- "Damned if you stay, damned if you go." If you stay you condone the behavior and subject yourself to the probability of more of it. If you leave, you subject yourself once again to the world of dating trying to decipher once again between the good apples and the bad apples moving from one relationship to another without any guarantees that the next man will be any different from the one you left.
I want to say that my lover left me in April. During one long month I have contacted many casters and bought almost ten spells without results. My ex wouldn't contact me, wouldn't answer my calls and emails. But I never lost hope because I knew we were soul mates. Dr. Abu cast the most wonderful spell for me 2 weeks ago and everything has changed since then. We are close to each other again and he is calling me many times everyday. Thank you Dr. Abu of Ominighospelltemple@gmail.com, your help is very appreciated! I will keep in touch.
i thank you dr osarenti as you put smile on my face again. back,because it has been a lonely life for me since 3years ago because of my body no one want to marry me but when i contacted you i became every man desire and my Ex has come back again with many flowers and even begging me to come have a marriage with him..wow these is the happiest time of my life and i thank you papa,but if you also need help, you can contact him via templeofgreatness@gmail.com
What a beautiful and wonderful testimony!!!
My name is KATE BREWSTER from UK i was in a very serous problems two years ago and i have sick for help many times until i found a man on net who help me.Well, i was in a very serous relationship that two years ago, this relationship was so tight and we promise each other know body on earth can ever tear us apart we were bout happy with each other my parents heat him so much that they don't even want him around me they even drove me out of the house just because of him my parents this own me i have know were to go except his house i move to his house and we were bout together our relationship was going on fine, so one day something happen he brought a beautiful young girl into the house to help us i was not really happy about it but i just cope with it and everything was still going on fine, something happen again so my nabob ask me if i have not been seeing what is happening in my house between my boyfriend and the new girl? really i desired to find out and i discover that my guy was still dating the girl on my behalf under the same roof so when i try to ask my boyfriend JOHN SIRRAH he say to me if he does not have the right to do what so ever he likes that we are not yet married he really broke my heart or doled i was still in his house my nabob ask me if am going to continue like this forever that there is a man who can help me makes my boyfriend stop cheating on me and to love me as my heart so desire my nabob ask me if am ready to do it i agreed so she told me to contact the man email address called(CAROLOVESPELLTEMPLE) i contacted him and i told him what happen he told me some things that i will have to do to get everything secured with my boyfriend and after i have see the result within the next 7 days then i will come and please the oracle for a job well done so it really come to pass and i was very happy,and to cult everything shout me and my boyfriend was now very happy together as before.
So if you are in any situation concerning love issues troubles, or any order things please contact this email address (CAROLOVESPELLTEMPLE@GMAIL.COM) he is there
to help you.
THANKS……
he extra ordinary spell caster that brought my man back with just one reunion spell under 3 days.
i say Dr iyanupo.may your might name be praised.
The spell worked faster than i ever imagined after 2yrs of being separated with my husband came across the contact of the greatest spell caster on planet earth when all hope was lost never thought i could ever be happy again.
when i contacted him he said he will bring my man back to me within 3days i laughed because i believed we had separated for too long and nothing can ever bring us back together but he told me that even if its 10 yrs he can do the job and just as he said after 2days my man came back to me and am happy to say we have been together now for 1month.
using this testimony to say a big thank you and also recommend the great spell caster.
this are his direct contact email:iyanupospiritual@yahoo.com. or Tel:+37067378625.
do contact him for help he is a great man.
Alina.
switzerland.
Analyze your husband's work schedule. If he has taken on a new project or suddenly works longer days or on weekends, this could be a sign of infidelity, but check the information before making accusations. Subtly question him about why he is working so many long hours and what his whereabouts are. Verify this information by asking him to give you details about the project. Ask him the same question a few days later to see if his answers still match up. If his place of work is still open, try calling him at work during one of his overtime sessions to find out if he is in the building.
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try to find out more details
Have been married for 4 years with no child and its really affecting my marriage.my husband has turned me to his enemy,he doesn't come home again,when I met my friend Chloe and
she told me about Dr Olumba then i went online and i was lucky to read alot about him, how he helped so many people in restoring back their marriage, getting them jobs, healing the
sick and helping people with money spell and more.so i email Dr Olumba and explained my problem,he said i should relax and give him just 48hrs, the second day he requested for my
picture and my husbands and he also told me he will get some items in market in casting the Child spell for me and i sent all required fee to get the items in the market, then he sent
me all and on Friday my husband came back home ,we made love as directed, the following week i went to the hospital and the Dr confirmed am 1 week pregnant, my husband jumped
up and was so happy, we both living lovely and now am 3 weeks pregnant.all thanks to Dr Olumba for his marvelous works..There people, Dr Olumba is the real spell caster online and
he will help you in any problem you are facing, I can Give you 100% assurance on him, here is the contact : olumbaspirituallproblemsolver@gmail.com +254705725785
Stella
Canada
You want to find out what your man doing .You want to find out what your man doing .The only way you will ever know for sure if your man is cheating on you is if you catch his in the act or if he tells you straight up. I would really think about if this is the kind of relationship you want to be in and if not, get out of it. Nobody deserves to be treated like that also I think three was on noticing your man is cheating is….if his daily routine changes, he starts going out when he usually doesn't and if he says he s going to the store to get something and it takes if along time to come back. Also this website going to help you out about CALL and TEXT http://www.spycell-phone.com
My name is Jenna Bueh from Australia my girlfriend left me a month ago and she was leaving with another man,i fell like my life is completely over. I read over the internet how you have help several people to get there love back. Have been dipresed for the past one month and what i need is to get her back and live with me so i decided to give it a try so i contacted him and explain my problems to him and he cast a spell for me which i use to get her back and now my life is complete and i am throughly greatful to this man,his contact email olorulovespell@yahoo.com. Thank you very much and i am extremely greatful olorulovespell@yahoo.com
my name is nancy. I've known Lucas for years, When we finally got together things were kind of weird so we broke up which was in February of 2011 In June of 2012 he and I recently got back together and we were together until march of 2013 which he told me he was not interested in relationship again During that time I changed completely, I wasn't eating,I was sleeping a lot, I wasn't talking to anybody, I cried a lot,I'm so depressed and stressed out that I'm scared I'm going to end up in the hospital because of all the stress and depression until one day i search online on getting love tips because I Love & care about him deeply and I just want us to be together as a couple again and I want us to last forever Google recommend me to prophet mike.his email: (prophetmike1010@gmail.com.)….phone number +2348037184677…that he will solve my relationship problem then prophet mike told me he will come back to me between 48hrs after he cast spell on him never believe it until my fiance called me on the phone and told me he want us to come back and live happy together forever , Am so happy now that prophet mike help me bring david back to me. Thanks so much prophet mike
smith i live in Australia,and I`m happily married to a lovely and caring wife,with two kids A very big problem occurred in my family seven months ago,between me and my wife so terrible that she took the case to court for a divorce she said that she never wanted to stay with me again,and that she did not love me anymore So she packed out of my house and made me and my children passed through severe pain. I tried all my possible means to get her back,after much begging,but all to no avail and she confirmed it that she has made her decision,and she never wanted to see me again. So on one evening,as i was coming back from work,i met an old friend of mine who asked of my wife So i explained every thing to her,so she told me that the only way i can get my wife back,is to visit a spell caster,because it has really worked for her too So i never believed in spell,but i had no other choice,than to follow her advice. Then she gave me the email address of the spell caster whom she visited.voodoospiritualisttemple@gmail.com}. So the next morning,i sent a mail to the address she gave to me,and the spell caster assured me that i will get my wife back the next day what an amazing statement!! I never believed,so he spoke with me,and told me everything that i need to do. Then the next morning, So surprisingly, my wife who did not call me for the past seven {7}months,gave me a call to inform me that she was coming back So Amazing!! So that was how she came back that same day,with lots of love and joy,and she apologized for her mistake,and for the pain she caused me and my children. Then from that day,our relationship was now stronger than how it were before,by the help of a spell caster . So, i will advice you out there to kindly visit the same website {voodoospiritualisttemple@gmail.com},if you are in any condition like this,or you have any problem related to “bringing your ex back. So thanks to the great spell caster for bringing back my wife
smith i live in Australia,and I`m happily married to a lovely and caring wife,with two kids A very big problem occurred in my family seven months ago,between me and my wife so terrible that she took the case to court for a divorce she said that she never wanted to stay with me again,and that she did not love me anymore So she packed out of my house and made me and my children passed through severe pain. I tried all my possible means to get her back,after much begging,but all to no avail and she confirmed it that she has made her decision,and she never wanted to see me again. So on one evening,as i was coming back from work,i met an old friend of mine who asked of my wife So i explained every thing to her,so she told me that the only way i can get my wife back,is to visit a spell caster,because it has really worked for her too So i never believed in spell,but i had no other choice,than to follow her advice. Then she gave me the email address of the spell caster whom she visited.voodoospiritualisttemple@gmail.com}. So the next morning,i sent a mail to the address she gave to me,and the spell caster assured me that i will get my wife back the next day what an amazing statement!! I never believed,so he spoke with me,and told me everything that i need to do. Then the next morning, So surprisingly, my wife who did not call me for the past seven {7}months,gave me a call to inform me that she was coming back So Amazing!! So that was how she came back that same day,with lots of love and joy,and she apologized for her mistake,and for the pain she caused me and my children. Then from that day,our relationship was now stronger than how it were before,by the help of a spell caster . So, i will advice you out there to kindly visit the same website {voodoospiritualisttemple@gmail.com},if you are in any condition like this,or you have any problem related to "bringing your ex back. So thanks to the great spell caster for bringing back my wife
HI
My name is karusha from south africa.i want to share a big testimony and turn around that happened in my life with DR AKPAKPA. i wanted to end up my life when a friend of mine told me about how DR AKPAKPA could cast a spell to bring lovers back.i contacted him via email:afiamensolutionshrine@yahoo.com and told him all i have been trough.he took me as his own child and revealed everything that i didnt even know that was responsible for my lover to leave and started living a arrogant life.
he told me that everything will be fine so i started having courage and believe.he told me how a cousin of mine never wanted us to be together and did everything that made him leave me and started clubbing with friends.
to cut the story short, we are happy together now and we are having our heart desires and he loves me like never before. his email is afiamensolutionshrine@yahoo.com in case you have any similar problem. i must show a sign of appreciation in any way i can.
i want to say a special thanks to ASHRA for restoring my marriage and my husband back to me,
exactly 10months ago i found out that my husband was having extra marital affair outside our matrimonial home, and i confronted him about it and it lead to him inflecting brutal injury on me and he pack his belongings and left the house , he didnt send me money or pay the bills i did all,
One day he sent his lawyer to deliver to me divorce papers, i was down casted my whole world was upside down because i meet my husband when i was 19 and he has been the only man i loved and i want to spend my life with, i tried to commit suicide several times but i could not because of our children , until one day i was just browsing GOOGLE on how to restore broken relation ship and stop a divorce and i saw so many comments and testimonies by different persons about different family issue. it was then i decided to write ASHRA also and let my own problem be known, i did write ashra and ashra gave me a warm and hopeful reply immediately i feel relieve and ashra cast love spell on my husband and within 2days he returned back to me and he apologized for acting the way he did and he hard drop the divorce case and drove the other woman away , my husband now treats me like we are newly weeded couples he has writing my name and the name of our child on all his well, am so happy now , you can write ASHRA via email :ashraspelltemple@gmail.com or call +2348058176311
my ex-boyfriend dumped me 8 months ago after I caught him of having an affair with someone else and insulting him. I want him back in my life but he refuse to have any contact with me. I was so confuse and don’t know what to do, so I visited the INTERNET for help and I saw a testimony on how a spell caster help them to get their ex back so I contact the spell caster and explain my problems to him….. he cast a spell for me and assure me of 3 days that my ex will return to me and to my greatest surprise the third day my peter came knocking on my door and beg for forgiveness. I am so happy that my love is back again and not only that, we are about to get married. Once again thank you Dr Trust spell, you are truly talented and gifted contact his email: ULTIMATESPELLCAST@GMAIL.COM
Hello,am cleo kent from usa,am abt to share the testimoney of my
life.it all happened three months ago.i was robbed on my way cuming
back from the bank with a huge sum of money,10000dollar presialy.i was
so confussed cos it wan'st my money,for my boss it for a business
transaction which was to made by me.i was really dumfounded.bt my
fiance encourage me and said there is a place he will take me to
online.i told him that they are all scams.bt he still insisted so i
accepted,we met this powerful spell caster called Dr Oduwa he told us
wat to do and he cast the spell for us.do u knw that in three days the
cops discoverd the money at a pineline area with the victims.i really
appreciate Dr oduwa who helped me cast the spell of delayians on
them,ad also to my fiance who show me the right way.Any where u are
right now in need of help,no matter the circumstances u may be,go to
the right way at Oduwaspellchambers@hotmail .com.He is a true spell
caster that can cast any spell u which for.dont die with ur problems
share it with him and he will help u…………….
Hello,am cleo kent from usa,am abt to share the testimoney of my
life.it all happened three months ago.i was robbed on my way cuming
back from the bank with a huge sum of money,10000dollar presialy.i was
so confussed cos it wan'st my money,for my boss it for a business
transaction which was to made by me.i was really dumfounded.bt my
fiance encourage me and said there is a place he will take me to
online.i told him that they are all scams.bt he still insisted so i
accepted,we met this powerful spell caster called Dr Oduwa he told us
wat to do and he cast the spell for us.do u knw that in three days the
cops discoverd the money at a pineline area with the victims.i really
appreciate Dr oduwa who helped me cast the spell of delayians on
them,ad also to my fiance who show me the right way.Any where u are
right now in need of help,no matter the circumstances u may be,go to
the right way at Oduwaspellchambers@hotmail .com.He is a true spell
caster that can cast any spell u which for.dont die with ur problems
share it with him and he will help u……………. gizem
I never believed in love spells or magic until I met this spell caster once when i went to see my friend in Indian this year on a business summit. I meant a man who's name is Dr ATILA he is really powerful and could help cast spells to bring back one's gone, lost, misbehaving lover and magic money spell or spell for a good job or luck spell .I'm now happy & a living testimony cos the man i had wanted to marry left me 5 weeks before our wedding and my life was upside down cos our relationship has been on for 3years. I really loved him, but his mother was against us and he had no good paying job. So when i met this spell caster, i told him what happened and explained the situation of things to him. At first i was undecided,skeptical and doubtful, but i just gave it a try. And in 7 days when i returned to Canada, my boyfriend (now husband) called me by himself and came to me apologizing that everything had been settled with his mom and family and he got a new job interview so we should get married. I didn't believe it cos the spell caster only asked for my name and my boyfriends name and all i wanted him to do. Well we are happily married now and we are expecting our little kid, and my husband also got the new job and our lives became much better. His email is atilahealinghome@yahoo.com
My boyfriend and I were happy as far as I could tell and I never thought that we would break up. When his cousin died in a tragic car accident he went back to Philippine for a week to be with his family. I could not go because I was in the middle of entertaining out of town clients for work. He did not seem to be upset that I could not go so I let him be. The next thing that I know, he reconnected with an old friend from high school that he had a crush on years ago and they started to have an affair! I had no clue what was going on until a month after he came back from Philippine.He proceeded to see both her and I until I caught him testing her one night. I confronted him and he told me the truth about what happened. We broke up and went our separate ways. Neither of us fought for our relationship. I was angry and decided not to be upset about it and just keep it moving. Then after about a month of not speaking to him I became sad. I wanted him to tell me that he wanted to be with me and not her. I contacted prophetjakula for a love spell and he totally helped me! he was able to get him to miss me to where he wanted to get back together again. He had a lot of regrets and felt bad for not fighting to keep me and for cheating in general. He values our relationship so much more now and we are together now! You can also get your lover back with the help of prophetjakula contact him through prophetjakula@gmail.com
My ex-boyfriend dumped me 8 months ago after I caught him of having an affair with someone else and insulting him. I want him back in my life but he refuse to have any contact with me. I was so confuse and don’t know what to do, so I visited the INTERNET for help and I saw a testimony on how a spell caster help them to get their ex back so I contact the spell caster and explain my problems to her….. she help me cast a love and return spell and assure me of 3 days that my ex will return to me and to my greatest surprise the third day my Roland came back knocking on my door and begging for forgiveness. I am so happy that my love is back again and not only that, we are about to get married. Once again thank you Dr.Kate spell caster, you are truly talented and gifted contact her email: (katelovespell@hotmail.com)
My name is Florida.I want to say thank you thank you thank you to gracerelationshipspell for everything so far. To everyone who doesn’t believe in spell, I was one of those ones at first. I wasn’t quite sure if I wanted to do this since I’ve tried others so-called spells casters and they did not work and was a waste of my time and money. However, when I read through the testimonials of other people at this website and after I talked priest grace who answered all my questions and was very nice about everything, I decided to give it a try. I figured it would be my last try to get my guy back. So my story is that I was at my office when the guy I am in love with told me that he wasn’t in love with me and never will be and that he didn’t want to speak or see me again, especially since he was talking to this other girl. When I talked to priest grace, he let me know which spells would be most appropriate for me and I chose the ones that was to get him back to me and stay with me and want to marry me.As soon as he started on the spells, my guy came back into my life! It was a miracle to me and I’m so thankful for that. Things have been going well, and pretty much according to what priest grace said would happen. He’s always there when you need him and that’s also after the spell is done. I’m still waiting for the spells to completely manifest, but with all that has happened so far I’m very happy because given only four months ago in March, if you asked me or my friends if I would have anticipated how things were right now…no one would believe it! priest grace. contact is email address gracerelationshipspell@gmail.com
I am CLUXE MORREV from USA,i hear how people are talking about The powerful spell caster called DR OKORO in regard of how he bring back ex lover,winning lottery,getting pregnant and getting married to their dream true lover and i also contact him to help me cast a spell in regard of my ex lover whom i love so much that left me 2yrs ago,but today my ex is back to me and we are happily married with 3kids and i am so much happy for the help i found in you DR OKORO of okorohomeofrefuge@gmail.com,i and my family are very much happy and we are living large now,i am grateful and appreciate your good work of spell casting,thank you and may you leave long to help people in problems His email is okorohomeofrefuge@gmail.com
my name is Roland from USA, i want to use this opportunity to thank a great spell caster who helped me to bring back my ex DR OKOASE templeofgreatspell@hotmail.com lover after she has end up the relationship for four years now. naturally i don't believe in any spell caster,cause there are a lot of scams but i run to him as directed by a friend of mine,when i told him he helped me and in two days my ex is back to me and it was real and i was really surprised…. for the solution to your problem in your relationship, u can kindly contact him at this email address: templeofgreatspell@hotmail.com
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Theres this guy i been seeing a few months n were in love he has someone live with this women then he tells me hes not going to leave me like this meaning single, on another note were have sex with out protection what do i do im in love with this Men n would do anything for him me leaving him is not an option
Why would my guy friend say he likes me and we have sex together…but then get back with his ex.?
Why would anyone cheat afterall? If you are in a relationship, there is nothing that you can't tell him/her. Whenever I feel sad and being away from my angel, I sit her down and tell her my true feelings. It feels so good when she comforts me with her hugs, kisses and her kind words. I learning from her and now I do the same thing when she is down. Communication is the key. Please guys and girls, do open your hearts to your loving spouse and never ever cheat.
In my own opinion i feel why men cheat is dt some of them are tired of dey girl maybe dey have attitude problem and dey get tired nd bored of it,so dey go out wit d girl that makes them feel confortable and happy
After 10 years relationship with my boyfriend, he changed suddenly and stopped contacting me regularly, he would come up with excuses of not seeing me all the time. He stopped answering my calls and my sms and he stopped seeing me regularly. I then started catching him with different girls friends several times but every time he would say that he love me and that he needed some time to think about our relationship. But after l contacted Dr.okaya of spell cast temple he cast a love spell and after a day, my boyfriend started contacting me regularly and we moved in together after a few months and he was more open to me than before and he started spending more time with me than his friends. We eventually got married and we now have been married happily for 3 years with a son. Ever since Dr. okaya of okayaspellhelp@yahoo.com helped me, my partner is very stable, faithful and closer to me than before
After 10 years relationship with my boyfriend, he changed suddenly and stopped contacting me regularly, he would come up with excuses of not seeing me all the time. He stopped answering my calls and my sms and he stopped seeing me regularly. I then started catching him with different girls friends several times but every time he would say that he love me and that he needed some time to think about our relationship. But after l contacted Dr.okaya of spell cast temple he cast a love spell and after a day, my boyfriend started contacting me regularly and we moved in together after a few months and he was more open to me than before and he started spending more time with me than his friends. We eventually got married and we now have been married happily for 3 years with a son. Ever since Dr. okaya of okayaspellhelp@yahoo.com helped me, my partner is very stable, faithful and closer to me than before
i want to share my great testimony on how i get my ex back in just 48 hours,after will have dated for good 8 years he left me and go for other for no reasons. i beg him i do all i can i to bring him back but he always refuse me, block me on fb and not picking my calls. i cry all day all night because of the love i have for him. i met DR kate love spell online and explain all my problem to him and he told me to believe him that after the casting of the return and love spell he must come begging so i have faith. after the casting of the spell in the next 48 hours my ex came back begging for forgiveness, again i must say a very big thank to Dr Kate love spell he is really a wonderful man reach him for help: katelovespell@hotmail.com
Some men are never satisfied with their wives and that's causing them to cheat. They usually have the saying that you can't eat the same meal everyday and this is causing them to go out and look for new concubines. I think you've talked about almost all the points why men cheat. Thanks for sharing
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Hi im currently with a black man who is cheating with a black girl now im no broke down ugly white woman if you ever seen me I look like one of the kardashian sisters everybody wanted me I had so many oportunities to cheat but never did now this girl is following me around even though me and him are not together and iv seen at least 3other girls includeing a pretty homely blonde white girl that hes been with while being with the side peice who started the others stalking me as well and get this I left and moved on to a white man and black girls will still hit on him white girls too but I got to admitt I think tyler perry should completely rewrite diary of a mad black woman so what do you think on all this
And then why do you say wisdom is misery do yall like being like that evidently you just dont like it being pointed out on it cause theres no problem you have in doing the bullshit cause one she got him and two he got her as well it does take two or ever how many agree to it you just dont dont like getting frowned upon by everyone else but you the one that said you didnt care so that would mean you should be apathetic in entirety unless ofcourse black girls that do these things are just prejudice towards other races of women that being said why do they go after other races of men cause just like a back man wrote wisdom is misery without wisdom yo stupid asses will do nothing but sit back and take that bullshit and if you dont take a stand shell keep dong the shit to you why not wisdom is misery right
My Name is Mr anderson .I will love to share my testimony to all the people in the forum cos i never thought i will have my girlfriend back and she means so much to me..The girl i want to get marry to left me 4 weeks to our weeding for another man..,When i called her she never picked my calls,She deleted me on her Facebook and she changed her Facebook status from married to Single…when i went to her place of work she told her boss she never want to see me..i lost my job as a result of this cos i cant get myself anymore,my life was upside down and everything did not go smooth with my life…I tried all i could do to have her back to all did not work out until i met a Man when i Travel to Africa to execute some business have been developing some years back..I told him my problem and all have passed through in getting her back and how i lost my job…he told me he gonna help me…i don't believe that in the first place.but he swore he will help me out and he told me the reason why my girlfriend left me and also told me some hidden secrets.i was amazed when i heard that from him..he said he will cast a spell for me and i will see the results in the next couple of days..then i travel back to US the following day and i called him when i got home and he said he's busy casting those spells and he has bought all the materials needed for the spells,he said am gonna see positive results in the next 2 days that is Thursday…My girlfriend called me at exactly 12:35pm on Thursday and apologies for all she had done ..she said,she never knew what she's doing and her sudden behavior was not intentional and she promised not to do that again.it was like am dreaming when i heard that from her and when we ended the call,i called the man and told him my wife called and he said i haven't seen anything yet… he said i will also get my job back in 2 days time..and when its Sunday,they called me at my place of work that i should resume working on Monday and they gonna compensate me for the time limit have spent at home without working..My life is back into shape,i have my girlfriend back and we are happily married now with kids and i have my job back too,This man is really powerful..if we have up to 20 people like him in the world,the world would have been a better place..he has also helped many of my friends to solve many problems and they are all happy now..Am posting this to the forum for anybody that is interested in meeting the man for help.you can mail him on this e-mail; ayemenramagicspell@gmail.com i cant give out his number cos he told me he don't want to be disturbed by many people across the world..he said his email is okay and he' will replied to any emails asap..hope he helped u out too..good luck his email;ayemenramagicspll@gmail.com
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Dear friends, my name is Drake Berry from united states i had a problem with my husband 2years ago, which lead to our break up. when he broke up with me, i was not my self again, i felt so empty inside me. until a friend of mine Walt Pen told me about a spell caster who helped him in the same problem too. i email Dr SHAVAI the spell caster and i told him my problem and i did what he asked of me, to cut the long story short. before i knew what was happening my husband gave me a call and told me that he was coming back to me in just 2days and was so happy to have him back to me. we have two kids together and we are happy with our selves. thanks to priest Dr SHAVAI for saving my relationship and for also saving others own too. continue your good work the great spell caster email address :shavaispellhome@yahoo.com
My Name is sharron am from london..I never believed in Love Spells or Magics until I met this special spell caster when i contacted this man called .Dr Emobeifo.He is really powerful..My wife divorced me with no reason for almost 5 years and i tried all i could to have her back because i really love her so much but all my effort did not work out.. we met at our early age at the college and we both have feelings for each other and we got married happily for 4 years with four kids and she woke up one morning and she told me she's going on a divorce..i thought it was a joke and when she came back from work she tender to me a
divorce letter and she packed all her properties from my house..i ran mad and i tried all i could to have her back but all did not work out..i was lonely for almost 5years.So when i told the spell caster what happened he said he will help me and he asked for her full name and her picture..i gave him that..At first i was skeptical but i gave it a try cos have tried so many spell casters and there is no solution.so when he finished with the readings,he got back to me that she's with a man and that man is the reason why she left me.The spell caster said he will help me with a spell that will surely bring her back.but i never believe all this.he told me i will see a positive result within 24 hour..24 hour later after the spell has been casted,she called me herself and came to me apologizing and she told me she will come back to me..I cant believe this,it was like a dream cos i never believe this will work out after trying many spell casters and there is no
solution..The spell caster is so powerful and after that he helped me with a pregnancy spell and my wife got pregnant again ..we are now happy been together again and with lovely kids..This spell caster has really changed my life and i will forever be thankful to hem..he has helped many friends too with similar problem and they are happy and thankful to her..This man is indeed the most powerful spell caster have ever experienced in life..Am Posting this to the Forum in case there is anyone who has similar problem and still looking for a way out.
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